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Wow! In that article, Trump actually says he doesn't believe in UFO's. He gets a +1 on the Marky Trump Scoreboard.

SilentKnight

That's confirmation right there UFOs exist.

Anytime Trump opens his mouth its either a lie...or he's wrong.

If he doesn't believe in little green men - chances are they're out there.

2MuchMark

So? Still not aliens.


I can tell you what it wasn't - Aliens.

The UFO community is not a credible source of information. Not Aliens.


Correct! But it doesn't prove it either. Not Aliens.

No evidence has been found. Nothing, nada, zip. Not aliens.

Agreed. But still, not aliens.

Don't get me wrong - I love Sci-Fi and I know Science will bring us wonders we can't even imagine. I have no doubt that we will fly to the stars one day in an FTL space ship. I think there are millions of civilizations in the universe and hundreds of thousands capable of interstellar travel. As a Science nerd and Science Fiction Nerd, I believe that.

But with all of that - No. I don't believe what we are seeing now are aliens. I have seen zero proof, and no persons retelling of events, no matter how passionate, can convince me without real, solid proof.

That's a bingo.

In order to travel that fast it would have to have accelerate at 4800 meters per second squared and would require kinetic energy of 57555300000 x 2 Joules, and then decelerate at the same rate, assuming it was 100km up and had a mass of 1000kg. It would heat and display so much air so fast that an explosion-type sound would be heard around the world, and the super heated air would be bright enough to blind you.

I think it might be brighter as it slows down because all of that momentum has to be converted into heat. But anyway. Not to mention the acceleration and deceleration would obliterate any pilot flying that thing around like that.

Furthermore the amount of energy it would take to get up to speed and then slow it back down would be tremendous, and tremendously wasteful. It's a safe bet to assume that beings who get here from another planet know how save fuel.

It sounds like a great story for sure but basic physics (at least about how objects move through our atmosphere) instantly tell us that what this guy saw cannot be a physical object moving the way he described. And since this happened over the ocean, he also has little to no frame of reference.


With all of the UFO sightings, you would think that they would have by now.

Not Aliens.


Hey! Wait a minute... FUCK! Goddammit...

adultinnovation

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/u-s...aval-sightings

Senators briefed on UFO's as speculation grows surrounding naval sightings: report

The Defense Department reportedly briefed Senate Intelligence Committee Vice Chairman Mark Warner, D-Va., on Wednesday, along with two other senators as part of what appeared to be heightened efforts to inform politicians about naval encounters with unidentified aircraft.

Christopher Mellon, former Deputy Assistant Secretary of Defense for Intelligence, has said that the U.S. knew UFOs existed. "We know that UFOs exist. This is no longer an issue," he said. "The issue is why are they here? Where are they coming from and what is the technology behind these devices that we are observing?"


So they are literally saying UFO's exist 100% no doubt about it.. and by saying that they are also saying that Aliens exist.. because nobody else could be flying around in those UFO's.

Bosa

SilentKnight

Careful quoting Trump - it's liable to backfire.

VRPdommy

Sometimes I think some of this stuff is staged to keep the DARPA money flowing.
Perhaps not all of it but who knows. Enough evidence to question it.

SilentKnight

Won't that be a scenario - the U.S. trying to decide who would be more fun to launch new advanced weapons at...Iran or E.T.

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Things we couldn't explain were attributed to god, not it's aliens.

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Last Night Bob Lazar was on Joe Rogan




The documentary is now on Netflix:

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Last Night Episode ( Episode 4 ) of Unidentified TV Show is now up on Vimeo

adultinnovation

I think that Lazar guy is lying just to sell books and movies

VRPdommy

After seeing that video, I am just as skeptical. Perhaps more.
I would say the 2 most likely things you are seeing are stealth reconnaissance drones made by the 1-US or 2-China.

It only makes sense that the US would test these out against their own battle groups for detection, avoidance and surveillance tests. So that tops my 2 part list.
So, they doctor footage and use selective portions to feed the public (even more to the senate) to obtain more DARPA money.

If they were able to release some to the public, why not all of it ?
They do not want it scrutinized before the objective is achieved. And afterwards there is no reason to. It's a teaser to explain to the public why they are going to spend multi-billions on a program. There has to be a perceived threat. Which is likely going to fund this aircraft/program.

VRPdommy

Some advice...
Your newly acquired server that you have been running for a few weeks has it's own issues.
It may be safe from a amateur, but not everyone here is. You will never know.
Better spend your time fixing your own house and not trying to piss folks off just trying to drum up biz for your own site.
You are not likely to piss me off but I do need some practice.
Game on ?

Bosa

Bump to clear board pic

Tim

I saw that Rogan video - good stuff

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SilentKnight

Either Lazar is the most adept, creative and consistent liar in recent memory...or he's seen some shit that should change the world someday.

My jury's still out - but I'm inclined to believe the guy...even if there's still some questions about the authenticity of his creds.

When he mentions about Zeta Reticulli I flashed back to the old alien abduction story about Betty and Barney Hill ('A UFO Incident') and how she drew a star map showing that particular system.

P_RABID

I found it odd why Lazar had several memory blanks during this Podcast, is he a liar and got caught out in a lie or did he just have a memory blank due to an apparent mentioned bad migraine ?

SilentKnight

I get memory blanks often.

Usually after a dozen beers and shots of JD.

Glad I didn't work on UFOs in the 80s. The entire decade is pretty much blank.

adultinnovation

You actually believe the government hired some random 20 something year old kid to work on Alien technology just because he put a Jet Engine in his car?

SleepWalker

NY Post - 5th Episode of Their UFO Series

MFCT

Even Area 51 needs someone to empty the trash cans and clean out the urinals, no? What if that was Lazar's actual job there? Someone had to do it.

Not seeing much of a future in that line of work, maybe he got creative. Its not like Area 51 is going to confirm or deny any particular person has ever worked there, or what their job was, being so secretive and such.

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SilentKnight

Let's overlook that he'd also built a particle accelerator in his living room. That won't fit in your simplified, dismissive narrative.

As he said, the gov't hired a succession of various individuals from different backgrounds to look at the alien tech. They sounded desperate to find anyone who could "think outside the box" and possibly come up with answers on how to reverse engineer it.

Paul&John

The thing is that he doesn't has any books or movies as far as I know.. this new documentary is the only thing after 30 years..

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Jeremy Corbell, Author of the recent documentary about Lazard posted this today:


Thanks to @joerogan for watching my film and talking to Bob. It’s no small thing that people are ready to consider Bob’s experiences. The world has changed; we’re catching up.

Bob has been through thirty years of hell. I have had a unique vantage on this - it’s been rough. I will tell you, it would be reckless to discount Bob.
George Knapp put his career on the line for you. So you could know Bob’s account. And that’s because George believes Bob; and so do I.

All “belief” is not equal. Belief is based on information. And some people have accurate or better information. We must take responsibility. We must analyzed and re-analyze... especially when exposed to NEW information.

Polygraph tests, employee verification, government and intelligence agency contacts - everybody lied - except for Bob. Everybody. And we busted them.

Early on George uncovered that Los Alamos was lying about Bob. THAT weaponized his curiosity and was the start. He considered that if Los Alamos was lying and trying to erase Bob - what else were they lying about? If they were trying to erase him at Los Alamos - where else where they trying to erase him?

George (an investigative reporter with 28 Emmys for excellence in journalism), personally saw Bob’s “cloud chamber experiment”, with a handful of others. They used a piece of the Element 115 - and it bent light. It BENT fucking light! For what it’s worth, George saw it with his own eyes. AND they filmed it.

It’s easy to discount Bob if you already made up your mind. I can’t help you with that. But Joe wanted to know the truth. Like George, Joe is seeking the truth for himself - and so should you.

Last thing. The art-piece that I gave you Joe - it’s beautifully designed to honor Bob’s experiences by my friend @RealFunWow on Instagram. It’s special.

I’m sending my gratitude to those who watched my film, and to Joe, for seeking the truth.

This story has just begun. Keep your eyes and ears open and WEAPONIZE your damn curiosity.

SilentKnight

SleepWalker

Last Friday Episode ( Episode 5 ) of Unidentified TV Show

Paul&John

Anything interesting on those shows? I mean I don't want to watch 40 minutes of non-sense for just 1-2 minutes of worthy/entertaining information

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"George (an investigative reporter with 28 Emmys for excellence in journalism), personally saw Bob’s “cloud chamber experiment”, with a handful of others. They used a piece of the Element 115 - and it bent light. It BENT fucking light! For what it’s worth, George saw it with his own eyes. AND they filmed it."


So where's the film? bending the fucking light?

No Film = fake.

It's all BS until there's actual proof. Not hard to release a film that was supposedly recorded unless there is no film to release.

SleepWalker

If you are interested by all the news you saw in the mainstream news lately you'll like it. They go in deep with all of this.

Paul&John

You mean speculate around it for 40 minutes? Nah I will pass.

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Tom Delonge did a nice summary about all the recent stuff and was is going on with his company TTSA earlier this week:

SleepWalker

New Video From To The Stars Academy:

Paul&John

Aren't they in high negative figures? (TTSA)

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