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3rdshiftvideo · 02-06-2020, 11:41 AM

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Originally Posted by movieguy

That's preposterous. You are thinking of Malibu Media.

VMG has 6 big sites in operation for years. At their scale and size, the cashflow would have bankers kissing their asses even if they needed to borrow money to buy Greg out in a lump sum (and there are other ways of buyout at such large scales, that Nathan/Fabian formerly discussed on GFY)

As noted earlier in this thread, nearly every affiliate program has raised payout minimums. It costs more to deal with little affiliates and little payouts.

Has MadChed always paid, or did they only stop paying recently?

No reason for MadChed to NOT to be paying their affiliates if thier cashflow/expenses are strong. They either dont care, or are trying to save money. NaughtyAmeria for example ran into money problems and stopped paying. All I know is Lansky was paid to leave according to several people.

movieguy · 02-06-2020, 12:07 PM

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Originally Posted by 3rdshiftvideo

Has MadChed always paid, or did they only stop paying recently?

They have always paid. A few people in this thread said they were paid recently.
If they wanted to save money, couldn't they just shoot one less $20k scene - as you said - over losing some small affiliate's, $200 payout?

The friction with Lansky is well known in the california production community, but that's a stretch to assume that means fiscal issues which no one knows anything about. But based on simple logic, there are much more effective ways for a company to handle cost overruns, such as reducing the budget on productions, or even laying off staff. Those are far greater expenses than a $200 affiliate cheque.

3rdshiftvideo · 02-06-2020, 12:19 PM

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Originally Posted by movieguy

They have always paid. A few people in this thread said they were paid recently.
If they wanted to save money, couldn't they just shoot one less $20k scene - as you said - over losing some small affiliate's, $200 payout?

The friction with Lansky is well known in the california production community, but that's a stretch to assume that means fiscal issues which no one knows anything about. But based on simple logic, there are much more effective ways for a company to handle cost overruns, such as reducing the budget on productions, or even laying off staff. Those are far greater expenses than a $200 affiliate cheque.

Yeah good point. Maybe they have scaled back on production, Who the hell knows. Its just very strange a big brand like that not paying out affiliate commissions, even if small. What other big program is not paying besides them? I cant think of any.

movieguy · 02-06-2020, 12:44 PM

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Originally Posted by 3rdshiftvideo

Yeah good point. Maybe they have scaled back on production, Who the hell knows. Its just very strange a big brand like that not paying out affiliate commissions, even if small. What other big program is not paying besides them? I cant think of any.

Badoink. A few years ago, they made the minimum super high, like $500 - $1000 . Pissed off a lot of affiliates, including trade partners.

3rdshiftvideo · 02-06-2020, 12:56 PM

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Originally Posted by movieguy

Badoink. A few years ago, they made the minimum super high, like $500 - $1000 . Pissed off a lot of affiliates, including trade partners.

I dunnno. Their margins have to be paper thin to do that. They have investors involved, 20k shoots, revenue is certainly down from their peak 3-4 years ago, even with adding additional sites. Lansky is now gone. You will see them cutting production costs down soon if they haven't already. They are super aggressive with missed sales also, I can see they are doing everything they can to convert sales, recently adding push notifications to their tours and being crazy aggressive with their mailers. I would assume they are billing $200k monthly across all their sites right now. Dont get me wrong they have the best content ever shot in history, and they've reached meme status, so I'm not knocking them. Im just saying, I think the brand isnt what it used to be and they are probably over leveraged - which explains why they raised the affiliate payouts and now have stopped paying affiliates.

movieguy · 02-06-2020, 01:26 PM

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Originally Posted by 3rdshiftvideo

I would assume they are billing $200k monthly across all their sites right now.

How did you arrive at this number?

Let's assume a $20 per member billing average because they run discounts and partner trades, that would put them at 10k members, making them smaller than JT's glamcore sites, and that's not including cross-sales, upsells, DVDs, etc.

Public records show litigation alone, can bring in over $2 million/year

Roald · 02-06-2020, 02:20 PM

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Originally Posted by 3rdshiftvideo

I dunnno. Their margins have to be paper thin to do that. They have investors involved, 20k shoots, revenue is certainly down from their peak 3-4 years ago, even with adding additional sites. Lansky is now gone. You will see them cutting production costs down soon if they haven't already. They are super aggressive with missed sales also, I can see they are doing everything they can to convert sales, recently adding push notifications to their tours and being crazy aggressive with their mailers. I would assume they are billing $200k monthly across all their sites right now. Dont get me wrong they have the best content ever shot in history, and they've reached meme status, so I'm not knocking them. Im just saying, I think the brand isnt what it used to be and they are probably over leveraged - which explains why they raised the affiliate payouts and now have stopped paying affiliates.

200k 😆

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The Porn Nerd · 02-06-2020, 02:26 PM

How is their tube Porntube doing?

3rdshiftvideo · 02-06-2020, 06:43 PM

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Originally Posted by movieguy

How did you arrive at this number?

Let's assume a $20 per member billing average because they run discounts and partner trades, that would put them at 10k members, making them smaller than JT's glamcore sites, and that's not including cross-sales, upsells, DVDs, etc.

Public records show litigation alone, can bring in over $2 million/year

I think its a reasonable assumption that they're doing 200-400 sales a day including rebills with a $40/join average when you include the yearly memberships. I'm just sayin.

movieguy · 02-06-2020, 08:32 PM

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Originally Posted by 3rdshiftvideo

I think its a reasonable assumption that they're doing 200-400 sales a day including rebills with a $40/join average when you include the yearly memberships. I'm just sayin.

3rdshiftvideo · 02-06-2020, 09:26 PM

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Originally Posted by movieguy

Now thats too funny

but dont lump me in with Markham, man

fuzebox · 02-07-2020, 12:37 AM

$200k

3rdshiftvideo · 02-07-2020, 02:01 AM

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Originally Posted by fuzebox

$200k

Out of curiosity, what do you think they are bringing in monthly? My point was MadChed has increased their payout threshold and now are not paying affiliates altogether, which means they are probably trying to save money. Either that or they don't care. Thier revenue is down from thier peak, I know that as fact.

Movieguy seems to be some sort of BLACKED apologist, on here claiming the little $200 affiliate is too much of a hassle for them to pay and doing backflips trying to explain WHY they dont pay. I beg to differ. The majority of their affiliates are on paxum anyway which takes 30 seconds to send out en masse so I dont buy it.

Just my 2 cents

Roald · 02-07-2020, 02:17 AM

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Originally Posted by 3rdshiftvideo

200-400 sales a day including rebills

This is where you are off, like way off

3rdshiftvideo · 02-07-2020, 02:20 AM

Movieguy I didn't know you worked for MadChedder. This explains why you are on this thread doing some EPIC quality control! Are you looking for a job? id hire you!

3rdshiftvideo · 02-07-2020, 02:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Roald

This is where you are off, like way off

Whats making you think that?

Roald · 02-07-2020, 02:46 AM

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Originally Posted by 3rdshiftvideo

Whats making you think that?

Our own numbers

3rdshiftvideo · 02-07-2020, 03:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Roald

Our own numbers

I think they are more on par with you guys to be honest but you guys actually pay

fuzebox · 02-07-2020, 06:18 AM

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Originally Posted by 3rdshiftvideo

Out of curiosity, what do you think they are bringing in monthly?

I have no idea their financials or what their traffic looks like. I do know from personal experience that $200k/mo is not a lot.

greenguy · 02-07-2020, 06:35 AM

♫♪ Meet the new (GFY) boss... same as the old (GFY) boss ♪♫

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Originally Posted by Klen

User which posted e-mails requested to delete those posts plus replies related to those e-mails.

I've reposted those email addy's twice: Once via a link to where I posted them on my board & once just a copy/paste of what I posted on my board. Both of my posts were removed, and NOT at my request. Nor was I contacted by anyone here as to why my posts were deleted.

If anyone want's them, it's ain't hard to find me.

Also, not that this really helps anyone else, but a webmaster who used to work with some of the people at Mad Cheddar reached out to me & then contacted them on my behalf:

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Hey Mark, spoke to Andrew there and said they're aware of the issues and saw your posting about it. He said it will be fixed hopefully next week prior to the mid month payout. If you don't get it then, let me know.

So they know about 1 of the 3 threads/boards I posted on. Hopefully it's this one.

movieguy · 02-07-2020, 07:53 AM

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Originally Posted by 3rdshiftvideo

Movieguy seems to be some sort of BLACKED apologist, on here claiming the little $200 affiliate is too much of a hassle for them to pay and doing backflips trying to explain WHY they dont pay. I beg to differ. The majority of their affiliates are on paxum anyway which takes 30 seconds to send out en masse so I dont buy it.

Just my 2 cents

You are missing the point that it was a $200 missing cheque.
I have a $100 cheque from paperstreet I'm not cashing because my bank won't accept foreign cheques, and going through the institutions to get it cashed, is too time-consuming. I'd rather destress by making memes of gfy trolls.

No one will take your bait about numbers, but if anyone is interested in the porn space, do a google search. X-art's numbers were revealed in their own press and because of litigation. JT used to post his numbers here regularly. Nathan/Fabian has done a lot of articles and talks.

3rdshiftvideo · 02-07-2020, 11:32 AM

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Originally Posted by movieguy

You are missing the point that it was a $200 missing cheque.
I have a $100 cheque from paperstreet I'm not cashing because my bank won't accept foreign cheques, and going through the institutions to get it cashed, is too time-consuming. I'd rather destress by making memes of gfy trolls.

No one will take your bait about numbers, but if anyone is interested in the porn space, do a google search. X-art's numbers were revealed in their own press and because of litigation. JT used to post his numbers here regularly. Nathan/Fabian has done a lot of articles and talks.

"I have a $100 cheque from paperstreet I'm not cashing because my bank won't accept foreign cheques"

- just email Paper and have then send Paxum? Not a big deal for them.

"X-art's numbers were revealed in their own press"

They ended up broke because they where blowing money on million dollar mansions to shoot. Everyone still got paid because CCbill handles their affiliate payouts. MadChed sadly, I think is going down the same route.

"JT used to post his numbers here regularly"

Not sure about JT's numbers. There is a reason he sold everything.

movieguy · 02-07-2020, 12:02 PM

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Originally Posted by 3rdshiftvideo

- just email Paper and have then send Paxum? Not a big deal for them.

You weren't listening.

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Originally Posted by 3rdshiftvideo

They ended up broke because they where blowing money on million dollar mansions to shoot.

source?

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Originally Posted by 3rdshiftvideo

Not sure about JT's numbers. There is a reason he sold everything.

source?

LOL. You are right about the ccbill payments and to bring the topic back to payments.

cosis · 02-07-2020, 06:42 PM

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Originally Posted by cosis

I am waiting too, not a lot of money, but enough to notice

2019-08-16 Pending Not Yet Paid Not Paid $118.69 Paxum Details
2019-11-01 Pending Not Yet Paid Not Paid $113.70 Paxum Details
2020-01-16 Pending Not Yet Paid Not Paid $102.10 Paxum Details

I am happy to report I received $102.10 via Paxum today. Not sure why they didn't send the older two payments of $118.69 and $113.70.

semnate · 02-07-2020, 07:26 PM

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Originally Posted by cosis

I am happy to report I received $102.10 via Paxum today. Not sure why they didn't send the older two payments of $118.69 and $113.70.

You should probably contact them, just like we have, to try and get your issues resolved.

semnate · 02-07-2020, 07:27 PM

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Originally Posted by 3rdshiftvideo

Movieguy seems to be some sort of BLACKED apologist, on here claiming the little $200 affiliate is too much of a hassle for them to pay and doing backflips trying to explain WHY they dont pay. I beg to differ. The majority of their affiliates are on paxum anyway which takes 30 seconds to send out en masse so I dont buy it.

semnate · 02-11-2020, 09:48 AM

An update from the new representative "going to be solved in the next 10 days".

Fingers crossed.

greenguy · 02-12-2020, 06:56 AM

I was told by another webmaster that used to work with people at Mad Cheddar that they're aware of the issues and saw the posts about it. Also said it will be fixed hopefully this week prior to the mid month payout.

semnate · 02-12-2020, 08:59 AM

Hmmm, one affiliate rep says 'solved in next 10 days' (as of Feb 06).

Now a different affiliate rep says 'dont have a time right now but, it will be asap' (as of Feb 11).

greenguy · 02-12-2020, 09:11 AM

My problem dates back to June, so it's been at least 8 months of payout problems. Assuming they have new people in charge of payouts, that's gotta be a big dumpster fire fucking clusterfuck of a shitshow to sort thru.

3rdshiftvideo · 02-12-2020, 09:53 PM

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Originally Posted by greenguy

I was told by another webmaster that used to work with people at Mad Cheddar that they're aware of the issues and saw the posts about it. Also said it will be fixed hopefully this week prior to the mid month payout.

Not sure what needs to be fixed. All they need to do is view thier stored payments in NATS and send the payments out.

greenguy · 02-12-2020, 10:52 PM

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Originally Posted by 3rdshiftvideo

Not sure what needs to be fixed. All they need to do is view thier stored payments in NATS and send the payments out.

It's (probably) not that easy. If you look at my original post:

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Originally Posted by greenguy

Around mid October I noticed I was missing a payment from MadCheddar.com that shows being sent to me via check on 2019-07-08. I have no record of ever receiving this check and my account is set to Paxum for payouts (nothing over there, either).

NATS shows I was paid, when I wasn't. I assume others are in the same boat.

semnate · 02-15-2020, 09:38 AM

nothing new in 3 days

greenguy · 02-15-2020, 09:54 AM

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Originally Posted by semnate

nothing new in 3 days

Patience

2020-02-01 to 2020-02-15 Pay Period ends at Midnight tonight, and since it is the weekend, nothing's gonna happen til Tuesday anyway since I assume Monday will be spent adding this Pay Period into everything.
(not that I know for sure - just pulling shit outta my ass as usual)

semnate · 02-17-2020, 09:29 AM

makes sense, will keep everyone posted

semnate · 02-20-2020, 09:06 AM

now im getting the silent treatment again

3xmedia · 02-20-2020, 09:12 AM

why not focus on promoting legit programs instead of wasting more and more of your time with these ignorants?

ircandy · 02-20-2020, 11:06 AM

I'm in the same situation with Madcheddar payments. They owe me a 256.00 payment from November. I contacted the support department at blacked.com and they keep telling me their affiliate team will contact me. I never have been contacted by their affiliate team.

greenguy · 02-21-2020, 06:52 AM

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Originally Posted by 3xmedia

why not focus on promoting legit programs instead of wasting more and more of your time with these ignorants?

Because we're owed money?

3xmedia · 02-21-2020, 07:14 AM

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Originally Posted by greenguy

Because we're owed money?

months and months of GFY posting, emailing, crossing fingers, etc... all this shit over about 250 bucks... and still zero results... well, money is money but you could earn a lot more if you spent that time working and promoting some legit program.

greenguy · 02-21-2020, 07:26 AM

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Originally Posted by 3xmedia

months and months of GFY posing, emailing, crossing fingers, etc... all this shit over about 250 bucks... and still zero results... well, money is money but you could earn a lot more if you spent that time working and promoting some legit program.

Some of us are owed a little more than $250. And it's not like the only thing anyone owed money does is worry about when they'll be paid 24/7. I've personally spent about 2 hours total on this since November.

semnate · 02-22-2020, 09:37 AM

The truth be, I still want to promote their sites cause they do well, however, only if I get paid. I now have another $250 payment 'Stored' and 'Ready to Send', which should in theory go out March 1st. Curious to see what happens there.

greenguy · 02-23-2020, 02:40 AM

My anonymous source did talk to one guy because the other guy is on vacation (go figure) and it sounds like he got the runaround. But my guy did basically threatened to go over the heads of the other 2 to see WTF is going on unless there's some movement tomorrow (Monday) so we shall see...

semnate · 02-23-2020, 09:30 AM

I too just got the 'on vacation' response from the guy who told me I was getting paid 2-3 weeks ago. He told me to contact him again if I dont get payment. Who tells someone to contact them, when they know they are going on vacation.

semnate · 02-24-2020, 09:19 AM

I was told that once the payment issue is fixed, all payment should be taken care of. Hoping that would mean that all of us who are waiting on money from MadCheddar, will get our money.

cosis · 02-24-2020, 01:27 PM

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Originally Posted by semnate

I was told that once the payment issue is fixed, all payment should be taken care of. Hoping that would mean that all of us who are waiting on money from MadCheddar, will get our money.

What was weird is they paid me for a recent period and not two older periods from last year

3xmedia · 02-24-2020, 02:07 PM

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Originally Posted by cosis

What was weird is they paid me for a recent period and not two older periods from last year

https://gfy.com/22583444-post82.html

Major (Tom) · 02-24-2020, 04:58 PM

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Originally Posted by 3rdshiftvideo

I think its a reasonable assumption that they're doing 200-400 sales a day including rebills with a $40/join average when you include the yearly memberships. I'm just sayin.

They are doing more than that. Heck, I do that with just sales not including rebills.

Major (Tom) · 02-24-2020, 05:08 PM

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Originally Posted by 3xmedia

https://gfy.com/22583444-post82.html

Isn’t blackef and vixen a gamma company? Why not go to gamma

movieguy · 02-24-2020, 05:15 PM

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Originally Posted by DukeSkywalker

Isn’t blackef and vixen a gamma company? Why not go to gamma

Countless press releases and news articles. 4 pages of this thread alone. Not a single mention of Gamma. It's not a gamma company.

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