External drives - Best Cyber Monday deals

[GUNNER]

I'm in the market for external hard drives for 20+ TB storage (Desktop NAS)
Show me the best Cyber Monday deals OR just overall recommendations

Tired of stacking multiple 10+TB Western Digital drives, it's way too cumbersome

[Ferus]

Synology DiskStation DS920+ with SSD cache

[Sly]

Originally Posted by Ferus

Synology DiskStation DS920+ with SSD cache

I have 2 of these in my home office.

[GUNNER]

Thanks! This is it? https://amzn.to/2KJj2f2

...and what drives are you guys running in it?

[Sly]

Originally Posted by GUNNER

Thanks! This is it? https://amzn.to/2KJj2f2

...and what drives are you guys running in it?

Yep.

You can get good drives from Seagate or Western Digital. You'll want to buy the NAS level drives, like this: https://www.amazon.com/Seagate-IronW...647MNN4HEKQ9H0

Synology has a proprietary RAID system which runs right around 2/3 of storage space. What this means for you: if you need 20 TB of storage, go ahead and get at least 4 x 10 TB drives. This gives roughly 40 "total" TB, but around 26 TB usable space for your data.

I would recommend 12 TB drives just to save you any hassle later. You can always daisychain another NAS if needed as well but that's just more equipment for you to purchase.

Feel free to shoot me a text if you need any more help. If you lost my number, just let me know and I'll shoot you one!

[GUNNER]

Originally Posted by Sly

Yep.

You can get good drives from Seagate or Western Digital. You'll want to buy the NAS level drives, like this: https://www.amazon.com/Seagate-IronW...647MNN4HEKQ9H0

Synology has a proprietary RAID system which runs right around 2/3 of storage space. What this means for you: if you need 20 TB of storage, go ahead and get at least 4 x 10 TB drives. This gives roughly 40 "total" TB, but around 26 TB usable space for your data.

I would recommend 12 TB drives just to save you any hassle later. You can always daisychain another NAS if needed as well but that's just more equipment for you to purchase.

Feel free to shoot me a text if you need any more help. If you lost my number, just let me know and I'll shoot you one!

Awesome, thank you SLY!
If I buy 4x10TB drives, then the enclosure is full and maxed at 40 TB (26 usable)
I could buy 18TB drives and get more mileage, no? Albeit, a lot more expensive.
Synology NAS $600 + 18TB x 4 (NAS IronWolf Pro) @ $575x4 = $2300
$3,000 for 48ishTB usable?

[Sly]

Quoted the wrong post!

[Sly]

Originally Posted by GUNNER

Awesome, thank you SLY!
If I buy 4x10TB drives, then the enclosure is full and maxed at 40 TB (26 usable)
I could buy 18TB drives and get more mileage, no? Albeit, a lot more expensive.
Synology NAS $600 + 18TB x 4 (NAS IronWolf Pro) @ $575x4 = $2300
$3,000 for 48ishTB usable?

You could come up with quite a few different variations really. I would break out the spreadsheet and see what works best for you.

Here's a 6 bay: https://www.amazon.com/Synology-Bay-...Z84BPTNZ900PD9

They also have an 8.

In my home office I have a 4 bay and an 8 bay. Honestly, I would not buy the 4 again because I've already ran into space issues. With your concerns listed, I would recommend jumping right into the 8 bay with 4 x 12 TB drives, the other 4 bays you can leave open until you need them. By that point, the 18 TB drives may be more economical.

My solution with the 8 bay and 4 x 12 TB will run you around $2k and gives you 4 bays to fill later.

[GUNNER]

Originally Posted by Sly

You could come up with quite a few different variations really. I would break out the spreadsheet and see what works best for you.

Here's a 6 bay: https://www.amazon.com/Synology-Bay-...Z84BPTNZ900PD9

They also have an 8.

In my home office I have a 4 bay and an 8 bay. Honestly, I would not buy the 4 again because I've already ran into space issues. With your concerns listed, I would recommend jumping right into the 8 bay with 4 x 12 TB drives, the other 4 bays you can leave open until you need them. By that point, the 18 TB drives may be more economical.

My solution with the 8 bay and 4 x 12 TB will run you around $2k and gives you 4 bays to fill later.

Sly that's perfect, brilliant... by far the best option man, TYVM! 8 bay, only use 4 now w/12 TB drives. $940 for the Synology NAS
Plus, every model who comes in my office will see my MASSIVE 8 bay NAS... and some will also get to see my MASSIVE _______!

[phil-flash]

https://www.amazon.com/G-Technology-...t=&hvdev=m&hvd https://www.amazon.com/G-Technology-...99787253&psc=1 vcmdl=&hvlocint=&hvlocphy=1015032&hvtargid=pla-979199787253&psc=1

I suggest this. It’s pre-built and works mac or windows. 36TB (2x18TB DRIVES)

I run one for main work and the other for daily backups of that work.

[Sly]

Originally Posted by phil-flash

https://www.amazon.com/G-Technology-...t=&hvdev=m&hvd https://www.amazon.com/G-Technology-...99787253&psc=1 vcmdl=&hvlocint=&hvlocphy=1015032&hvtargid=pla-979199787253&psc=1

I suggest this. It’s pre-built and works mac or windows. 36TB (2x18TB DRIVES)

I run one for main work and the other for daily backups of that work.

My concern here is if one drive dies, you are in quite the pickle. With the multi-bay set up above, you can lose a drive and it's no big deal. Pop another one in and it will rebuild. The system will also alert you when a drive is starting to fail.

[GUNNER]

Originally Posted by Sly

My concern here is if one drive dies, you are in quite the pickle. With the multi-bay set up above, you can lose a drive and it's no big deal. Pop another one in and it will rebuild. The system will also alert you when a drive is starting to fail.

What if you went with Phil's suggestion, but bought an 18 TB hard drive to back up to? In other words, you had two 18s (36) in his external (https://www.amazon.com/dp/B08FSRG9W3...ing=UTF8&psc=1)
and then you used an 18TB WD as an off-site back-up copy. https://www.bestbuy.com/site/wd-easy...&ref=212&loc=1
Or am I over-complicating it?

[Sly]

Originally Posted by GUNNER

What if you went with Phil's suggestion, but bought an 18 TB hard drive to back up to? In other words, you had two 18s (36) in his external (https://www.amazon.com/dp/B08FSRG9W3...ing=UTF8&psc=1)
and then you used an 18TB WD as an off-site back-up copy. https://www.bestbuy.com/site/wd-easy...&ref=212&loc=1
Or am I over-complicating it?

Over complicating and I'm not seeing any real benefit. Price would be same ballpark.

NAS is your best solution. Sorry Phil, love you buddy. :-)

[GUNNER]

Originally Posted by Sly

Over complicating and I'm not seeing any real benefit. Price would be same ballpark.

NAS is your best solution. Sorry Phil, love you buddy. :-)

We all love p-f... he and I talked last night. So he agrees that the NAS is a better solution, but his complaint with NAS is the difficulty in initial setup and then accessing files, transferring, etc.
Tech guru I am not... not by a long shot, and p-f knows that. He thinks there would be some serious headache on my part in trying to manage it.

[Sly]

Originally Posted by GUNNER

We all love p-f... he and I talked last night. So he agrees that the NAS is a better solution, but his complaint with NAS is the difficulty in initial setup and then accessing files, transferring, etc.
Tech guru I am not... not by a long shot, and p-f knows that. He thinks there would be some serious headache on my part in trying to manage it.

I'm happy to help you through it. Let me know when you have the parts and we can set up a call.

[phil-flash]

No worries. I finally grew up a few years ago and realized that we are all different with preferences and needs.

I did have a nas about 9 years ago. I remember files crawling slower than a sloth through the ethernet. Is this still the same today? If you wanted to grab a 150GB file from your nas is the speed better these days?

[phil-flash]

Originally Posted by Sly

I'm happy to help you through it. Let me know when you have the parts and we can set up a call.

One call to set up a fucking space station? With Gunner? Bahahahahaha

Just kidding.

[sandman!]

If you have the room somewhere in the house you can buy a 16 bay used server on eBay for same price and run freenas on it and save $$$ on HD’s you can find 8tb sas used drives on eBay for $100-130 .

[Major (Tom)]

Originally Posted by GUNNER

I'm in the market for external hard drives for 20+ TB storage (Desktop NAS)
Show me the best Cyber Monday deals OR just overall recommendations

Tired of stacking multiple 10+TB Western Digital drives, it's way too cumbersome

45drives.com

[darnit]

https://www.promise.com/us/Products/Pegasus/Pegasus32

I've been using Promise for a while - they will do a bit of handholding with their tech team to get you up and running. I know I needed it. Good to have a few extra drives on hand if some get corrupted but less of a problem with their newer series.

[GUNNER]

Originally Posted by DukeSkywalker

45drives.com

DUKE!
Thanks man. Have you used any of the 270TB models? https://www.45drives.com/products/st...igurations.php

[RyuLion]

Originally Posted by Ferus

Synology DiskStation DS920+ with SSD cache

Oh wow! Those are SICK!!!