So the first people in the UK have been vaccinated

[Scott McD]

Or should that be the world. (Over 1 billion people in China covid free with no vaccine ?)


Anyway, let's sew how this pans out...






*not political*

[Ferus]

One one side, I don't terrible the pandemic for several reasons (people stay the hell away from me)

But that said, I am glad what the impact it have on old people life, and my Pfizer Inc. stocks

[CAHEK]

I bet it won't be long before we have story after story about the side effects of this vaccine

[CAHEK]

So what is normality? Even after the jab, we still have to wear masks, social distance, don't mix inside, don't mix outside, oh! and the vaccine only lasts 6 months!

[Ferus]

Originally Posted by CAHEK

So what is normality? Even after the jab, we still have to wear masks, social distance, don't mix inside, don't mix outside, oh! and the vaccine only lasts 6 months!

If you remove your tinfoil hat and look at the real world for a second, you will see it works like the other influenza vaccines, that you need to re-take each year in the "influenza season" to be covered.

Works for most educated western Europeans for many years now - might work on you as well

I know its easier for you to belive in the bullshit conspiracy theories, but that is part of human nature - its OK - as long as the majority are smart enough to move forward, it dont matter to the general public

Even the churches believe in science now, both the christian and muslim world where their leaders tell the people to "listen to the science - dont come to church, stay home until science have fixed it" ... maybe its about time you wake up as well?

[k0nr4d]

Originally Posted by CAHEK

I bet it won't be long before we have story after story about the side effects of this vaccine

It will be 4-5 months before it turns out that it caused mass infertility.

[CaptainHowdy]

Originally Posted by k0nr4d

It will be 4-5 months before it turns out that it caused mass infertility.

Sounds like a free vasectomy . . .

[Pink24]

Originally Posted by k0nr4d

It will be 4-5 months before it turns out that it caused mass infertility.

The first lady to get it was 91!
The average age expectancy in the UK for women is 79 years.
This woman already lived 12 years longer than most.

If it was me, I would be offering it to the 50-80 age bracker first. 90 Sounds too old.

[amateurpine]

everything that is going on in the uk, the bbc made a tv show called utopia 9 years ago, the show shows everything that is happening now

[D Ghost]

Originally Posted by k0nr4d

It will be 4-5 months before it turns out that it caused mass infertility.

[shake]

Originally Posted by k0nr4d

It will be 4-5 months before it turns out that it caused mass infertility.

Hopefully there's other benefits too!

[redwhiteandblue]

Originally Posted by k0nr4d

It will be 4-5 months before it turns out that it caused mass infertility.

Yeah! All those old 80 and 90 year old women they're injecting it into, who wanted to have babies and now can't!

[Ferus]

Originally Posted by redwhiteandblue

Yeah! All those old 80 and 90 year old women they're injecting it into, who wanted to have babies and now can't!

Thanks for a great start on my day

[Scott McD]

Some people having allergic reactions to it already.

Was always gonna happen i suppose...

[Ferus]

Originally Posted by Scott McD

Some people having allergic reactions to it already.

Was always gonna happen i suppose...

Yes, but you forgot to mention "at the same rate as every other regular influenza vaccines" - nobody died, they got a normal allergic reactions

British regulators warned Wednesday that people who have a history of serious allergic reactions shouldn’t receive the new Pfizer-BioNTech vaccine as they investigate two adverse reactions that occurred on the first day of the country’s mass vaccination program.

The U.K.’s Medical and Healthcare Products Regulatory Agency is looking into whether the reactions were linked to the vaccine. The two people affected were staff members with the National Health Service who had a history of allergies, and both are recovering. Authorities have not specified what their reactions were.

In the meantime, the regulator has issued the warning for anyone who has had a significant allergic reaction to a vaccine, medicine or food. That includes anyone who has been told to carry an adrenaline shot or others who have had potentially fatal allergic reactions.

https://apnews.com/article/uk-allerg...0da27941db3540

[Rochard]

China took the virus very, very seriously. They built an entire hospital to handle it. Then they locked down, locked down tight. Only one member of a each household was allowed out for a short period once a week to go shopping, or something like that.

Here in the United States we have people who still refuse to wear a mask.

[PornoStar69]

Only mong's will take the vaccine.

[Scott McD]

Originally Posted by Rochard

China took the virus very, very seriously. They built an entire hospital to handle it. Then they locked down, locked down tight. Only one member of a each household was allowed out for a short period once a week to go shopping, or something like that.

Here in the United States we have people who still refuse to wear a mask.

China are now blaming food imports from other countries for cases being reported, in China.

I'm not sure whether i find it ironic, infuriating, or just......meh !!

[Sergio]

I would not inject myself with any vaccine from covid in this or next year!

[NatalieK]

Originally Posted by Scott McD

Some people having allergic reactions to it already.

Was always gonna happen i suppose...

how far can the reactions go to be considered unsafe?


this vaccine is being rushed out too fast, simple way to beat the virus is masks, stay distant and keep clean...

we´re back to zero here on the orihuela coast, now UK is stopping the partying Brits from coming over

[CAHEK]

Originally Posted by Rochard

China took the virus very, very seriously. They built an entire hospital to handle it. Then they locked down, locked down tight. Only one member of a each household was allowed out for a short period once a week to go shopping, or something like that.

Here in the United States we have people who still refuse to wear a mask.

No wonder why US hits record number of Covid-19 hospitalizations

These are the highest hospitalization numbers:

Dec. 9: 106,688 hospitalized
Dec. 8: 104,590 hospitalized
Dec. 7: 102,148 hospitalized
Dec. 6: 101,501 hospitalized
Dec. 4: 101,276 hospitalized

[hottoddy]

Originally Posted by Rochard

China took the virus very, very seriously. They built an entire hospital to handle it. Then they locked down, locked down tight. Only one member of a each household was allowed out for a short period once a week to go shopping, or something like that.

Here in the United States we have people who still refuse to wear a mask.

True. But China lies about everything. They lied about when infections started, lied about how it was transmitted and how many got infected, lied about how many dead, etc., etc. - to this day they lie. If it goes against their best interest, China lies. There are convincing reports that their Covid numbers may be equal or greater than the States. Now China is busy trying to blame other countries.

[blonda80]

Originally Posted by redwhiteandblue

Yeah! All those old 80 and 90 year old women they're injecting it into, who wanted to have babies and now can't!

that was funny

[Screwed Up]

So how many years does this vaccine work for? How long does it protect you?

[Ferus]

Originally Posted by Screwed Up

So how many years does this vaccine work for? How long does it protect you?

5-8 months like the usual influenza vaccines, that is why its given each year (if you live in the educated part of the world)

[redwhiteandblue]

Originally Posted by Ferus

5-8 months like the usual influenza vaccines, that is why its given each year (if you live in the educated part of the world)

It may last for years, no-one knows yet.

[mopek1]

Originally Posted by CAHEK

I bet it won't be long before we have story after story about the side effects of this vaccine

Have 2 allergic reactions already. I know reactions like that can occur with the flu vaccine but 2 on the very first day? WITH the company Pfizer saying don't take it if you have allergies to medicines or food etc., that is worrying.

You can take most vaccines if you have allergies.

Look I hope this vaccine works out great. I really do, but it was rushed and so like many, I'll wait and see.

[Scott McD]

Originally Posted by hottoddy

True. But China lies about everything. They lied about when infections started, lied about how it was transmitted and how many got infected, lied about how many dead, etc., etc. - to this day they lie. If it goes against their best interest, China lies. There are convincing reports that their Covid numbers may be equal or greater than the States. Now China is busy trying to blame other countries.

Yup. Lied from the beginning. Watched every other country go to shit.

And yet now seem to be blaming other countries for giving it TO them. Incredible really.






Fuck China...

[EddyTheDog]

Originally Posted by Ferus

5-8 months like the usual influenza vaccines, that is why its given each year (if you live in the educated part of the world)

Nobody knows - Apart from Ferus...

[Scott McD]

Originally Posted by Screwed Up

So how many years does this vaccine work for? How long does it protect you?

I don't think anybody knows. All guesswork at this point.

Should be an interesting 2021

[Ferus]

Originally Posted by mopek1

Have 2 allergic reactions already. I know reactions like that can occur with the flu vaccine but 2 on the very first day? WITH the company Pfizer saying don't take it if you have allergies to medicines or food etc., that is worrying.

You can take most vaccines if you have allergies.

Look I hope this vaccine works out great. I really do, but it was rushed and so like many, I'll wait and see.

Its simply not true.

This is the quote from above, that reports what actually happened:

British regulators warned Wednesday that people who have a history of serious allergic reactions shouldn’t receive the new Pfizer-BioNTech vaccine as they investigate two adverse reactions that occurred on the first day of the country’s mass vaccination program.

The U.K.’s Medical and Healthcare Products Regulatory Agency is looking into whether the reactions were linked to the vaccine. The two people affected were staff members with the National Health Service who had a history of allergies, and both are recovering. Authorities have not specified what their reactions were.

In the meantime, the regulator has issued the warning for anyone who has had a significant allergic reaction to a vaccine, medicine or food. That includes anyone who has been told to carry an adrenaline shot or others who have had potentially fatal allergic reactions.

1 - It is not know if the reaction was linked to the vaccine or not
2 - Until they have a answer to the above, regulators has issued the warning for anyone who has had a significant allergic reaction to a vaccine, medicine or food

I know some people have a tendency to accept the easy answer, because that is how the mind works, but please at least dont spread the lies, because its killing people.

Look at the US - that is what happens when you accept the easy answer, and repeat the same conspiracy shit all day.

I have said it before, even the religious leaders in both the christian and muslim world have accepted that science will fix this - not belives in religion (monotheism or others) - that is why they tell their followers; go home, be safe, dont spread the virus.

If they can accept the science on this one, maybe its about time you do as well

[Ferus]

Originally Posted by EddyTheDog

Nobody knows - Apart from Ferus...

If you educated yourself, and looked at the publications they have made on this and the publications made in the past, you will see it's not my words, but science

But I know you are stuck on stupid, so I wont waste my time on you - I know for a FACT you insist on remaining sick, because that is the way you know how to get attention. It's a sad-sad life you live, but it is however your own choice.

[EddyTheDog]

Originally Posted by Ferus

If you educated yourself, and looked at the publications they have made on this and the publications made in the past, you will see it's not my words, but science

But I know you are stuck on stupid, so I wont waste my time on you - I know for a FACT you insist on remaining sick, because that is the way you know how to get attention. It's a sad-sad life you live, but it is however your own choice.

Yeah - It's science - Ferus the scientist...

One one side, I don't terrible the pandemic for several reasons (people stay the hell away from me)

But that said, I am glad what the impact it have on old people life, and my Pfizer Inc. stocks

[redwhiteandblue]

Originally Posted by Ferus

If you educated yourself, and looked at the publications they have made on this and the publications made in the past, you will see it's not my words, but science

But I know you are stuck on stupid, so I wont waste my time on you - I know for a FACT you insist on remaining sick, because that is the way you know how to get attention. It's a sad-sad life you live, but it is however your own choice.

It's all very well saying follow the science, but the nature of science is that it takes a long time for scientists to agree on the correct answer.

Remember, Einstein was a genius but he refused to believe the theory of quantum mechanics that is widely accepted as correct now.

We won't know how effective the vaccines are, how long they last, and what side effects they have, until enough time has passed. Saying that you or anyone knows the answers to these based on some theory is foolish.

[Ferus]

Originally Posted by EddyTheDog

Yeah - It's science - Ferus the scientist...

What part of those two messages do your overly medicated fucked up mind think contradict each other? Because I own Pfizer Inc. stocks ? lol.. well fuck, shoot me I'm just a lobbyist for Pfizer then

BTW; I sold those yesterday morning, because I dont have time to watch the pharma market

[Ferus]

Originally Posted by redwhiteandblue

It's all very well saying follow the science, but the nature of science is that it takes a long time for scientists to agree on the correct answer.

Remember, Einstein was a genius but he refused to believe the theory of quantum mechanics that is widely accepted as correct now.

We won't know how effective the vaccines are, how long they last, and what side effects they have, until enough time has passed. Saying that you or anyone knows the answers to these based on some theory is foolish.

1 - its not a theory, those are facts, backed by test and studies - that is why it have been released

2 - To follow the logic in your answer, because science agree on this so far - but its new in the broader perspective, we should wait before we trust it? and in the meantime we should all believe in the tinfoilhat stories untill they have been proven wrong?

3 - Einstein was not right on many things, add Gravitational waves and cosmological constant to the list, but he was usually right and open to being so.

[Sergio]

Originally Posted by Screwed Up

So how many years does this vaccine work for? How long does it protect you?

At the very least, you cannot be sure that it will protect you at all.

[Ferus]

Originally Posted by Sergio

At the very least, you cannot be sure that it will protect you at all.

Same goes for a parachute, but skydivers tend to insist on having one on their back anyway

[EddyTheDog]

Originally Posted by Ferus

1 - its not a theory, those are facts, backed by test and studies - that is why it have been released

2 - To follow the logic in your answer, because science agree on this so far - but its new in the broader perspective, we should wait before we trust it? and in the meantime we should all believe in the tinfoilhat stories untill they have been proven wrong?

3 - Einstein was not right on many things, add Gravitational waves and cosmological constant to the list, but he was usually right and open to being so.

You are the dumbest twat on here - You question Einstein and can't even speak English...

[Ferus]

Originally Posted by EddyTheDog

You are the dumbest twat on here - You question Einstein and can't even speak English...

Lol .. coming from you that apparently cant even read it? how is your German, Danish or Spanish by the way? better than mine?


I didn't "question Einstein" - I just stated that he have been proven wrong on several topics (listed two more in the reply) but that was a reply to redwhiteandblue, where he brought up the fact Einstein was wrong as well.

So I did not question Einstein, I just replied to a post where someone else stipulated that since Einstein was sometimes wrong, we should not trust science

This might be hard for you Eddy... but there is a difference between "science" and "A scientist". The rule of thumb is; Trust science by questioning the scientist

I know.. I just went above your cognitive skill level.. sorry

Let me dumb it down for you, so you might get it;

science machine goes bbbrrrrrrrrrrrr

[Ferus]

Originally Posted by EddyTheDog

You are the dumbest twat on here - You question Einstein and can't even speak English...

It's OK Eddy, I accept your apology

[MaDalton]

[Major (Tom)]

Already some pretty major side effects

[EddyTheDog]

Originally Posted by Ferus

Lol .. coming from you that apparently cant even read it? how is your German, Danish or Spanish by the way? better than mine?


I didn't "question Einstein" - I just stated that he have been proven wrong on several topics (listed two more in the reply) but that was a reply to redwhiteandblue, where he brought up the fact Einstein was wrong as well.

So I did not question Einstein, I just replied to a post where someone else stipulated that since Einstein was sometimes wrong, we should not trust science

This might be hard for you Eddy... but there is a difference between "science" and "A scientist". The rule of thumb is; Trust science by questioning the scientist

I know.. I just went above your cognitive skill level.. sorry

Let me dumb it down for you, so you might get it;

science machine goes bbbrrrrrrrrrrrr

You're Eastern European! - That explains a lot - Including your appalling English...

Oh what fun.....

[k0nr4d]

Apparently 4 people that were in the study for the Pfizer one have partial facial paralysis now.

[Ferus]

Originally Posted by EddyTheDog

You're Eastern European! - That explains a lot - Including your appalling English...

Oh what fun.....

sorry to burst your bubble, but half german/half danish dont make me Eastern European Might make me a bastard on many levels, but my genes are stronger than yours (another scientifically proven fact)

[Ferus]

Originally Posted by k0nr4d

Apparently 4 people that were in the study for the Pfizer one have partial facial paralysis now.

Source?

Because FDA is about to approve them:
https://eu.usatoday.com/story/news/h...as/3870677001/

[Major (Tom)]

Originally Posted by Ferus

Source?

Because FDA is about to approve them:
https://eu.usatoday.com/story/news/h...as/3870677001/

https://archive.vn/EBjwr

Source ^^ always use archive to prevent soft edits

[mopek1]

Originally Posted by Ferus

I know some people have a tendency to accept the easy answer, because that is how the mind works, but please at least don't spread the lies, because its killing people.

Would you be willing to do the exact same thing that you are asking me to do?

I looked into it more and you are right. They said they don't know what the reactions were caused by yet.

But again, would you be willing to do what you asked me to? To NOT accept the easy answer when it comes to what you hear in the media? In this case, the efficacy of lock downs and masks?

I hope so because like you said, it's killing people, the government's response that is - and it's not stopping the virus from doing what it does.

[Major (Tom)]

Originally Posted by mopek1

Would you be willing to do the exact same thing that you are asking me to do?

I looked into it more and you are right. They said they don't know what the reactions were caused by yet.

But again, would you be willing to do what you asked me to? To NOT accept the easy answer when it comes to what you hear in the media? In this case, the efficacy of lock downs and masks?

I hope so because like you said, it's killing people, the government's response that is - and it's not stopping the virus from doing what it does.

Suicide rates are through the roof. I cannot even imagine what I would do if someone told me i cannot work. I don’t even want to allow my thoughts to entertain such a scenario.