Affiliate programs that shift the chargeback penalty to the webmaster - GoFuckYourself.com

Tagir · 10-23-2022, 09:47 PM

When there is income, they share it in half with the webmaster, but when returns occur, they simply pass the fines on to the webmaster! Is this a partnership? There is no such thing in normal affiliate programs! The webmaster attracted a user, and if he makes a return, then this is the fault of the affiliate program!

We need to make a list of such programs! Here is the first one:

https://nats.feet4cash.com/

example:

fuzebox · 10-23-2022, 10:51 PM

Fairly common. Why should the program have to eat bank fines generated from your users?

As always, you can vote with your traffic, and send it to the programs that pay you the most.

Tagir · 10-23-2022, 10:56 PM

I brought a user, he bought and renewed the subscription, how can I continue to be responsible for him?

Tagir · 10-23-2022, 10:58 PM

I don't know what the affiliate program does with him next! Maybe they empty his card, sign up for some more offers?

LaSexorcisto · 10-24-2022, 06:44 AM

I'm running a special promotion for all my users. Simply signup for a feet4cash site using my affiliate code, buy anything you want, then simply cancel and get your money back.

I as the affiliate get to keep all the earnings, because it's not my problem. Everybody wins!

CurrentlySober · 10-24-2022, 06:49 AM

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Originally Posted by LaSexorcisto

I'm running a special promotion for all my users. Simply signup for a feet4cash site using my affiliate code, buy anything you want, then simply cancel and get your money back.

I as the affiliate get to keep all the earnings, because it's not my problem. Everybody wins!

what is ur aff code please? i need some new shoes

mainstreammix · 10-24-2022, 07:38 AM

fuze, you've gone full lunatic lately. How the fuck is someone sending traffic responsible for a sign up to that extent? It's your lack controls or shit service that lead to a chargeback in 99.99% of cases.

digitalfantasies · 10-24-2022, 07:56 AM

Removing your earned percentage is common.
But charging you with the penalties is not ok

mainstreammix · 10-24-2022, 08:02 AM

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Originally Posted by digitalfantasies

Removing your earned percentage is common.
But charging you with the penalties is not ok

You could even argue half of the fees on a revshare without sounding fully retarded.

fuzebox · 10-24-2022, 10:24 AM

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Originally Posted by mainstreammix

fuze, you've gone full lunatic lately. How the fuck is someone sending traffic responsible for a sign up to that extent? It's your lack controls or shit service that lead to a chargeback in 99.99% of cases.

You're not wrong at all. The affiliate in most cases is not responsible, but then again a small amount are responsible for a lot of chargebacks based on marketing methods and traffic source. From the affiliate program's perspective, the affiliate is the one responsible.

As usual, I'm just trying to point out that the affiliate has 100% of the control on where they send their traffic to, and they should send it to where it returns the most revenue, regardless of commission structure, chargeback policies, minimum payouts, or even shaving.

Why not contact feet4cash directly and request that chargeback fines not be applied? If they want your traffic, maybe they will work with you. Maybe they don't want your traffic.

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Originally Posted by mainstreammix

You could even argue half of the fees on a revshare without sounding fully retarded.

For a revshare campaign, I think this is the best policy.

mainstreammix · 10-24-2022, 02:18 PM

Cheers...

newB · 10-25-2022, 03:37 AM

CCBill did something similar to me.

They flagged a transaction as fraud or something and reversed it. No big deal - simply erased the previous transaction.

Then the customer disputed the transaction with their bank, and CCBill took that same amount from my account a second time.

Net result: Customer ended up with an extra $100 and I ended up $100 in the hole.

"Nothing we can do" is what they kept telling me.

_Richard_ · 10-25-2022, 07:07 AM

this is common.

32.5 + 12.5 (50% of 25, partnership remember?) = 45.

fuzebox · 10-25-2022, 09:45 AM

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Originally Posted by newB

Net result: Customer ended up with an extra $100 and I ended up $100 in the hole.

"Nothing we can do" is what they kept telling me.

If you have previously refunded the customer, the merchant can dispute the chargeback based on that. The merchant will still pay the fine, but at least the CB is off the record.

Double refund chargebacks happen all the time, members are assholes. It's very common to have members that cost you hundreds of dollars.

12clicks · 10-25-2022, 10:00 AM

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Originally Posted by mainstreammix

fuze, you've gone full lunatic lately. How the fuck is someone sending traffic responsible for a sign up to that extent? It's your lack controls or shit service that lead to a chargeback in 99.99% of cases.

yeah, except this guy has a 66% CB rate...........

10-23-2022, 09:47 PM	#1
Tagir Confirmed User Join Date: Nov 2005 Posts: 436	Affiliate programs that shift the chargeback penalty to the webmaster When there is income, they share it in half with the webmaster, but when returns occur, they simply pass the fines on to the webmaster! Is this a partnership? There is no such thing in normal affiliate programs! The webmaster attracted a user, and if he makes a return, then this is the fault of the affiliate program! We need to make a list of such programs! Here is the first one: https://nats.feet4cash.com/ example:

10-24-2022, 07:56 AM	#8
digitalfantasies Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Caribbean Posts: 2,682	Removing your earned percentage is common. But charging you with the penalties is not ok __________________

10-25-2022, 03:37 AM	#12
newB Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Somewhere between reality and total ape-shit bonkers. Posts: 2,870	CCBill did something similar to me. They flagged a transaction as fraud or something and reversed it. No big deal - simply erased the previous transaction. Then the customer disputed the transaction with their bank, and CCBill took that same amount from my account a second time. Net result: Customer ended up with an extra $100 and I ended up $100 in the hole. "Nothing we can do" is what they kept telling me. __________________ The best Adult Affiliate Programs reviewed and indexed by niche and feature. Easily find the sponsors that suit your needs.

10-23-2022, 10:51 PM	#2
fuzebox making it rain Industry Role: Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: seattle Posts: 22,004	Fairly common. Why should the program have to eat bank fines generated from your users? As always, you can vote with your traffic, and send it to the programs that pay you the most.

10-23-2022, 10:56 PM	#3
Tagir Confirmed User Join Date: Nov 2005 Posts: 436	I brought a user, he bought and renewed the subscription, how can I continue to be responsible for him?

10-23-2022, 10:58 PM	#4
Tagir Confirmed User Join Date: Nov 2005 Posts: 436	I don't know what the affiliate program does with him next! Maybe they empty his card, sign up for some more offers?

10-24-2022, 06:44 AM	#5
LaSexorcisto Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Mar 2022 Location: In the moment Posts: 95	I'm running a special promotion for all my users. Simply signup for a feet4cash site using my affiliate code, buy anything you want, then simply cancel and get your money back. I as the affiliate get to keep all the earnings, because it's not my problem. Everybody wins!

10-24-2022, 07:38 AM	#7
mainstreammix So fucking banned Industry Role: Join Date: May 2022 Posts: 10,099	fuze, you've gone full lunatic lately. How the fuck is someone sending traffic responsible for a sign up to that extent? It's your lack controls or shit service that lead to a chargeback in 99.99% of cases.

10-24-2022, 02:18 PM	#11
mainstreammix So fucking banned Industry Role: Join Date: May 2022 Posts: 10,099	Cheers...

10-25-2022, 07:07 AM	#13
_Richard_ Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Vancouver Posts: 30,986	this is common. 32.5 + 12.5 (50% of 25, partnership remember?) = 45.