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Old 03-14-2023, 04:56 AM   #1
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what was your gas bill for Feb?

$637.45 for propane for me...
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$637.45 for propane for me...
Damn man! How many steaks y'all grillin' out your way??
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Damn man! How many steaks y'all grillin' out your way??
Heat at night 68 deg. Some days that were in the 20's and low 30s. Maybe 6 at most. I have a 1500 deg broiler for steaks!!!!

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We only use gas for the water heater and the stove. I put I think 40$ in two months ago.
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House I bought in Oklahoma was part of a ranch. My only neighbor is an heavy equipment rental and repair.
It use to be part of this ranch.
Because of where we are located, the cost of a new line for their business is too much, so they continue to be tapped to my line on my house. He pays my gas bill.
I also have someone pay my water bill so they can have water for their cattle.
Total cost of running a 3200 sqft home is less than $400 a month, including insurance for the home and the vehicles.
Electric wise, Oklahoma is the second cheapest in the nation, which is why we have so many pot farms in this state.
Living in a condo in LA , we spent $350 just on the HOA.

Things may change in the future, but for now, life is really good
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House I bought in Oklahoma was part of a ranch. My only neighbor is an heavy equipment rental and repair.
It use to be part of this ranch.
Because of where we are located, the cost of a new line for their business is too much, so they continue to be tapped to my line on my house. He pays my gas bill.
I also have someone pay my water bill so they can have water for their cattle.
Total cost of running a 3200 sqft home is less than $400 a month, including insurance for the home and the vehicles.
Electric wise, Oklahoma is the second cheapest in the nation, which is why we have so many pot farms in this state.
Living in a condo in LA , we spent $350 just on the HOA.

Things may change in the future, but for now, life is really good
I have about 2500 sqft, maybe a touch less. New windows, but I still feel drafts around the place. Propane at about $4 per gallon if I remember correctly. I didn't really listen when I was told the gallon price because there is nothing I can do about it. glad to hear your well, and the daughter as well I hope. I got my daughter a motorcycle, triumph T120, she LOVES it!!!
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Heat at night 68 deg. Some days that were in the 20's and low 30s. Maybe 6 at most. I have a 1500 deg broiler for steaks!!!!

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The price for beef here is way cheaper than in California. I bought a pellet grill and love it.
Take a pork butt and cover it with mustard and horse radish, then some rub on top of that and cook it at 220 for 6 hours, let it sit for an hour and it falls apart.
Doing brisket next time I get home , picking up a load in Florida, then a short trip to North Carolina, then home for a few days.
Wife is traveling with me.
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I have about 2500 sqft, maybe a touch less. New windows, but I still feel drafts around the place. Propane at about $4 per gallon if I remember correctly. I didn't really listen when I was told the gallon price because there is nothing I can do about it. glad to hear your well, and the daughter as well I hope. I got my daughter a motorcycle, triumph T120, she LOVES it!!!
Daughter is finding herself, Van Life. She has an income and daddy just gave her a 44 mag. She prefers a wheel gun, I have a few.
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The price for beef here is way cheaper than in California. I bought a pellet grill and love it.
Take a pork butt and cover it with mustard and horse radish, then some rub on top of that and cook it at 220 for 6 hours, let it sit for an hour and it falls apart.
Doing brisket next time I get home , picking up a load in Florida, then a short trip to North Carolina, then home for a few days.
Wife is traveling with me.
I moved to Norcal, Kernville, my ins dropped 30% I have a smoker, Ill hit you up this summer.
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Daughter is finding herself, Van Life. She has an income and daddy just gave her a 44 mag. She prefers a wheel gun, I have a few.

I have wheel guns, my issue is I can't find percussion caps for my "army colt' have powder and everything else...
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I think I pay $35/month year round for natural gas. Gas furnace, clothes dryer and water heater. It's equalized for the year.
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I have wheel guns, my issue is I can't find percussion caps for my "army colt' have powder and everything else...
I don't have any percussion guns yet, a couple of flint locks though, 69 caliber.
Big gun culture in Oklahoma, didn't know you could buy a machine gun or a suppressor.
I have my carry permit being processed, I'll be able to carry in I think 35 states.
Reloading is next, I have several bags of 44 shells and I want to do 12 gauge as well.

Might try these guys, it's where I get supplies

midwayusa.com
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House I bought in Oklahoma was part of a ranch. My only neighbor is an heavy equipment rental and repair.
It use to be part of this ranch.
Because of where we are located, the cost of a new line for their business is too much, so they continue to be tapped to my line on my house. He pays my gas bill.
I also have someone pay my water bill so they can have water for their cattle.
Total cost of running a 3200 sqft home is less than $400 a month, including insurance for the home and the vehicles.
Electric wise, Oklahoma is the second cheapest in the nation, which is why we have so many pot farms in this state.
Living in a condo in LA , we spent $350 just on the HOA.

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My gas bill was $340 last month.

I have solar plus a brand new AC so we don't pay for power. The loan on my solar is $120/month, and we pay $30/month for gas and a "connection" fee to PG&E, the local power company. So normally for $150/month we all are set and it's nice, no matter how much I run the AC.

However, in the winter we run the heat which uses gas. I work from home and I hate the cold. This past month surprised us.
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My gas bill was $340 last month.

I have solar plus a brand new AC so we don't pay for power. The loan on my solar is $120/month, and we pay $30/month for gas and a "connection" fee to PG&E, the local power company. So normally for $150/month we all are set and it's nice, no matter how much I run the AC.

However, in the winter we run the heat which uses gas. I work from home and I hate the cold. This past month surprised us.
Why didn't you buy a heat pump instead of an AC if your gas bill is so high?
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no gas here in Spain...

electric was 140€ with a few heaters on so nice and warm through winter. Other appliances and lighting, tv, laptops, water heater, oven & hobs, coffee maker, griddle, kettle & deep fryer, all the other normal items...

summer is usually 100€ so the extra 40€ is the heaters on through the night from 7 until 7, 2 bar, 8kw on both.


Water was 70€ for last 3 months, about 25€ a month.


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Life is good, I travel with my wife, when I'm home I work on my game room, Ride my Harley, im always busy.
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I don't have any percussion guns yet, a couple of flint locks though, 69 caliber.
Big gun culture in Oklahoma, didn't know you could buy a machine gun or a suppressor.
I have my carry permit being processed, I'll be able to carry in I think 35 states.
Reloading is next, I have several bags of 44 shells and I want to do 12 gauge as well.

Might try these guys, it's where I get supplies

midwayusa.com
I've been told primers are unavailable, like percussion caps. Getting a permit myself this summer. I no longer live in LA county. Going to site, thanks... edit: not available
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https://www.outdoorlife.com/gear/11-precision-cap-maker-review/

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Wow, that's some real Daniel Boone shit there... I know I know Boone used flints... just sounded funnier
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Heard about it from some of my shooting buddies.
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$138 was last months electric and water bill combined though.
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I pay 750 usd all inclusive, gas,water, electricity internet.
I saw the gas must be around 20 usd a month.
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I saw the gas must be around 20 usd a month.
Not bad, you live on a paved road? Streetlights?
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Yes. Every 10 minutes a bus to the center. Only 2 other appartments here, direct at the sea, private path to the sea. Hilton Vallarta Resort is a few minutes away.
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My tiny one bedroom in Manhattan just cost me $223 for Con Edison (electric) and I haven't been in the place for three weeks so wtf? LOL

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Sounds like time to sell it and settle permanently in Europe
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Yes. Every 10 minutes a bus to the center. Only 2 other appartments here, direct at the sea, private path to the sea. Hilton Vallarta Resort is a few minutes away.
Sq ft? How many rooms? Levels?
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You will have trouble finding it this cheap at sea. It is relatively simple, if you compare to the penthouses and villas nearby.

Living room + kitchen 35m2, bedroom 25m2, 2 simple bathrooms. And only 2 appartments above us. Also an outdoor BBQ space. And we can use swimming pool of the owner cause he likes us and he is maybe 3 weeks a year here. Rented also a nice 1 bedroom appartment from another neighbour, little smaller but better quality.

This is the best view i ever had for the best price/quality. We see whales, turtles, dolphins, manta rays jumping in front of us. Too bad i wasn't able to get 1400m2 beachfront land. The land i had in mind they will build a new 30+ million dollar resort now. Many is being bought up by big development companies. Americans/Canadians now moving to Manzanilo cause it is getting too expensive here for small pensioners.

Also Merida/Progreso/Chetumal is getting popular and relatively cheap. One of the safest cities. But very hot in Summer.
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You will have trouble finding it this cheap at sea. It is relatively simple, if you compare to the penthouses and villas nearby.

Living room + kitchen 35m2, bedroom 25m2, 2 simple bathrooms. And only 2 appartments above us. Also an outdoor BBQ space. And we can use swimming pool of the owner cause he likes us and he is maybe 3 weeks a year here. Rented also a nice 1 bedroom appartment from another neighbour, little smaller but better quality.

This is the best view i ever had for the best price/quality. We see whales, turtles, dolphins, manta rays jumping in front of us. Too bad i wasn't able to get 1400m2 beachfront land. The land i had in mind they will build a new 30+ million dollar resort now. Many is being bought up by big development companies. Americans/Canadians now moving to Manzanilo cause it is getting too expensive here for small pensioners.

Also Merida/Progreso/Chetumal is getting popular and relatively cheap. One of the safest cities. But very hot in Summer.
Yeah a view is great. I see deer and quail in the yard, lots of cool birds. Coyotes etc... beautiful views of trees and rock formations and the river, plus a lake...
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