Vr porn is it still selling?

[mrmister]

Is VR porn still selling for you guys? Or is it another fad that's died out. Like when they did 3d in cinema and everyone got bored within two months

[TheLegacy]

I'm sure there are some that have a small amount of profit but generally no. You can get a good idea at times by looking at competition but anytime someone posts all the great features of VR they generally are met with laughter.

[trevesty]

You can gauge interest somewhat with Google Trends:
https://trends.google.com/trends/exp...ate=all&geo=US

All the big producers I've ever spoken with (non-VR) said VR was pretty expensive to get into and the margins wouldn't be worth while.

It's really just another niche like anal or shemale, though, from the affiliate's POV.

[plsureking]

Originally Posted by TheLegacy

I'm sure there are some that have a small amount of profit but generally no. You can get a good idea at times by looking at competition but anytime someone posts all the great features of VR they generally are met with laughter.

bro you don't know shit about VR or VR sales. where are your stats? you have a negative view of VR because you don't like it. we've been over this.

even your opinion of the VR threads is wrong. can you even prove that every VR thread is "generally met with laughter"?

you're too ignorant and old to understand VR. you don't have to post negativity on every VR thread. its only you laughing - and everybody under 30 laughing at you.

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[Tasty1]

Better sales than the standard porn movie sites.
At least, for my traffic.

[beavr]

There is a ton of traffic and innovation released daily on https://www.sexlikereal.com/

And it only gets better

[DVTimes]

A lot will depend if they make this new apple ai headset a success.

It may record better films too.

If it does not take off, then VR will be no more than niche.

[TheLegacy]

Originally Posted by plsureking

bro you don't know shit about VR or VR sales. where are your stats? you have a negative view of VR because you don't like it. we've been over this.

even your opinion of the VR threads is wrong. can you even prove that every VR thread is "generally met with laughter"?

you're too ignorant and old to understand VR. you don't have to post negativity on every VR thread. its only you laughing - and everybody under 30 laughing at you.

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So apparently this happens to everyone that disagrees with you as I'm sure you've not only seen the threads about VR and refuse to comment on them because there are too many that would jump all over you.

Since you've read what I've said and seem to take an interest in me then you'll know I've said all along - it has potential but is still a niche market. The technology has to get better for VR to grow.

I am also not alone in this

https://www.thestar.com/business/tec...-thrilled.html

Oculus VR co-founder Palmer Luckey — who left Facebook last year — has criticized VR companies publicly for what he sees as their two-faced treatment of adult content.

“It’s this very strange situation where if you talk privately to people who work at major VR companies and you say, ‘Hey, what do you think about VR porn?’ And they say, ‘Oh, I love VR porn!’” he said at an industry event in Japan in September.

“But then they go to a public panel at a game development conference, and they’ll get asked, ‘What do you think about VR porn?’ They say, ‘What is VR porn? I don’t know anything about that.’”

Despite these hurdles, producers said demand for VR porn content is growing, though it still remains a niche market.

another quote

But the porn industry’s plans to capitalize on VR are facing a roadblock from headset makers. Producers say they are being treated unfairly by major manufacturers who block porn apps from their online stores, thereby making it harder for consumers to access adult VR content. While apps aren’t required for viewing porn, they provide a user-friendly interface that allows consumers to access and view videos without having to manually download each new movie.


Now each time someone posts negatively about it the same reasons come up

The positions:: maintaining that illusion requires changing position whenever the subject does, which is certainly more finagling than most people want to do while masturbating.

The format:: None of us felt that being able to see the ceiling, floor, and walls that encased the bedroom where the sex was happening added to our experience with the sex. In fact, at some points, they were a bit distracting.

The ability to skip the bullshit:: We've all skipped the beginning of a porn video to get to the good stuff -- awkward acting and thin storylines are just about the least sexy thing there is. And if you don't live alone, it's very important to be able to turn down the volume when others are near or pause your porn video at the first sign of an intruder.

On higher-end VR headsets like the Oculus Rift or HTC Vive, you can easily pause and fast-forward videos with controllers. But most big VR platforms don't allow porn. And let's be honest: Anyone who's buying a headset just to watch porn isn't probably down with the big expense of a Rift.

With cheaper cardboard viewers, pausing, fast-forwarding, or even changing the volume of a video typically requires fumbling to open in the headset, pulling the phone out of it, scrolling ahead, and then putting it all back together. That process can sometimes take a minute or more, and the hassle really takes you out of the experience.

The bottom line VR porn is an interesting idea, and I enjoyed the videos I watched. But at the end of the day, porn just isn't as compatible with the VR format as it is with the computer screen. Certainly, it doesn't enhance the porn experience enough (yet) to make buying a headset worth it.

I hope VR porn continues to thrive in niche communities, whose sexual or technological preferences attract them to the format. But for the moment, old-school porn is here to stay.

You obviously are invested in this which is why you're jumping all over my ass and calling me names and anyone else. With age comes wisdom - experience and common sense along with being in this industry for as long a certain amount of perspective of what can work and what needs working on. VR needs working on and it's still a niche.

[plsureking]

Originally Posted by thelegacy

tl;dr

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[MobileVRXXX]

Originally Posted by plsureking

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To be honest he is 100% right about the road blocks.

I am invested in VR/AR, with some websites and hundreds of domains, I have been participating in the journey for years and I Don't plan on stopping but there are A LOT of problems with VR.

1 - Will AR be better than VR ( I don't think entertainment wise AR will be better than VR, I think AR will be more useful but VR will be where the fun is )

2 - Position - That is obvious ( there are solutions however, and changing your POV to different participants might be really engaging )

3 - Price - you know how it is with the pricing, but to be honest things are getting far better and cheaper

4 - Privacy - it is just easier to get caught up and caught while "playing with a VR"

5 - Biggest issue right now is that companies simply won't allow porn apps.

There is a ton more from the limited scenes ( and I know how much each of the big 10 VR studios has and creates ) to the restrictions of the scenes themselves ( it is simply hard to do a ton of stuff with all the equipment )

But everything being said - Yes VR is making money, VRBangers didn't bought VRPorn.com just for the sake of it, yes VR is going to grow much more and might even take a big % of the total porn market ( so much that it is not considered a niche anymore) but there is a lot of time since that happens.

[TheLegacy]

Originally Posted by MobileVRXXX

To be honest he is 100% right about the road blocks.

I am invested in VR/AR, with some websites and hundreds of domains, I have been participating in the journey for years and I Don't plan on stopping but there are A LOT of problems with VR.

1 - Will AR be better than VR ( I don't think entertainment wise AR will be better than VR, I think AR will be more useful but VR will be where the fun is )

2 - Position - That is obvious ( there are solutions however, and changing your POV to different participants might be really engaging )

3 - Price - you know how it is with the pricing, but to be honest things are getting far better and cheaper

4 - Privacy - it is just easier to get caught up and caught while "playing with a VR"

5 - Biggest issue right now is that companies simply won't allow porn apps.

There is a ton more from the limited scenes ( and I know how much each of the big 10 VR studios has and creates ) to the restrictions of the scenes themselves ( it is simply hard to do a ton of stuff with all the equipment )

But everything being said - Yes VR is making money, VRBangers didn't bought VRPorn.com just for the sake of it, yes VR is going to grow much more and might even take a big % of the total porn market ( so much that it is not considered a niche anymore) but there is a lot of time since that happens.

I guess plsureking didn't figure that I wasn't the only one who thought this even though if he read other threads he'd know he was in the minority. Hopefully you'll not get ridiculed for speaking the truth and upsetting the group that don't want to believe that there are many out there who feel the same

[necoeds]

Originally Posted by beavr

There is a ton of traffic and innovation released daily on https://www.sexlikereal.com/

And it only gets better

Fuck Viktor and the sexlikereal team. They treat their producers like shit and give incomplete stats and bullshit responses.

When I pushed my position, as a top producer on their site, which used to be 6k per month, but now they only pay less than half and really they don't give a shit about their producers

Scam company and some idiot Slovenian named Viktor is the scammer behind it... Stay well clear of dealing with SEXLIKE REAL

[necoeds]

Couldn't have said it better

Originally Posted by TheLegacy

So apparently this happens to everyone that disagrees with you as I'm sure you've not only seen the threads about VR and refuse to comment on them because there are too many that would jump all over you.

Since you've read what I've said and seem to take an interest in me then you'll know I've said all along - it has potential but is still a niche market. The technology has to get better for VR to grow.

I am also not alone in this

https://www.thestar.com/business/tec...-thrilled.html

Oculus VR co-founder Palmer Luckey — who left Facebook last year — has criticized VR companies publicly for what he sees as their two-faced treatment of adult content.

“It’s this very strange situation where if you talk privately to people who work at major VR companies and you say, ‘Hey, what do you think about VR porn?’ And they say, ‘Oh, I love VR porn!’” he said at an industry event in Japan in September.

“But then they go to a public panel at a game development conference, and they’ll get asked, ‘What do you think about VR porn?’ They say, ‘What is VR porn? I don’t know anything about that.’”

Despite these hurdles, producers said demand for VR porn content is growing, though it still remains a niche market.

another quote

But the porn industry’s plans to capitalize on VR are facing a roadblock from headset makers. Producers say they are being treated unfairly by major manufacturers who block porn apps from their online stores, thereby making it harder for consumers to access adult VR content. While apps aren’t required for viewing porn, they provide a user-friendly interface that allows consumers to access and view videos without having to manually download each new movie.


Now each time someone posts negatively about it the same reasons come up

The positions:: maintaining that illusion requires changing position whenever the subject does, which is certainly more finagling than most people want to do while masturbating.

The format:: None of us felt that being able to see the ceiling, floor, and walls that encased the bedroom where the sex was happening added to our experience with the sex. In fact, at some points, they were a bit distracting.

The ability to skip the bullshit:: We've all skipped the beginning of a porn video to get to the good stuff -- awkward acting and thin storylines are just about the least sexy thing there is. And if you don't live alone, it's very important to be able to turn down the volume when others are near or pause your porn video at the first sign of an intruder.

On higher-end VR headsets like the Oculus Rift or HTC Vive, you can easily pause and fast-forward videos with controllers. But most big VR platforms don't allow porn. And let's be honest: Anyone who's buying a headset just to watch porn isn't probably down with the big expense of a Rift.

With cheaper cardboard viewers, pausing, fast-forwarding, or even changing the volume of a video typically requires fumbling to open in the headset, pulling the phone out of it, scrolling ahead, and then putting it all back together. That process can sometimes take a minute or more, and the hassle really takes you out of the experience.

The bottom line VR porn is an interesting idea, and I enjoyed the videos I watched. But at the end of the day, porn just isn't as compatible with the VR format as it is with the computer screen. Certainly, it doesn't enhance the porn experience enough (yet) to make buying a headset worth it.

I hope VR porn continues to thrive in niche communities, whose sexual or technological preferences attract them to the format. But for the moment, old-school porn is here to stay.

You obviously are invested in this which is why you're jumping all over my ass and calling me names and anyone else. With age comes wisdom - experience and common sense along with being in this industry for as long a certain amount of perspective of what can work and what needs working on. VR needs working on and it's still a niche.

[TheLegacy]

Originally Posted by necoeds

Couldn't have said it better

Ya well tell plsureking who thinks everyone is laughing at me and I'm to old to know LOL

Apparently more than one agree with me but be careful or he'll say

1) you don't know what you're taking about
2) if you don't see things his way you are negative towards VR
3) that if you disagree with his view that everyone is laughing at you
4) you are ignorant
5) too old to understand VR
6) everyone under 30 is laughing at you


Ya it keeps going - but thank you for the kind words and agreeing with me along with others. I don't make money off of sales from it - but guess he does so of course he's going to get pissy when someone says it's a niche etc. If I agreed with him then that would make us both wrong.

[2MuchMark]

Originally Posted by plsureking

bro you don't know shit about VR or VR sales. where are your stats? you have a negative view of VR because you don't like it. we've been over this.

even your opinion of the VR threads is wrong. can you even prove that every VR thread is "generally met with laughter"?

you're too ignorant and old to understand VR. you don't have to post negativity on every VR thread. its only you laughing - and everybody under 30 laughing at you.

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Hi King,

With all due respect, you should dial that back and consider apologizing. That is not cool at all. Mrmister posted an honest question, and Legacy answered him. If you have data that disputes his reply, you should simply share it in the thread instead of attacking.

Your post suggests that everyone over 30 is too old to understand VR. If you genuinely believe this, then I submit that you are missing out on a huge market. Not only do people aged 30 and above understand and use VR, but they are also the main group that can afford the hardware. And if they can afford the hardware, they can afford to pay for the content as well.

While I am sure you know your stuff when it comes to VR, attacking and then dismissing someone with a lot of industry experience kind of makes you look like you don't know what you're talking about.

As an over-30'er myself, I love technology and have owned several VR headsets over the past few years. They are enjoyable for playing games, but they are only mildly interesting when it comes to video-only content. The reason is quite simple: VR for games and computer-generated content is 100% immersive. VR for video, however, is not. All VR really offers for video is good 3D. Strapping on a headset just to watch some porn is uncomfortable, inconvenient, and especially distracting, speaking um... from experience... for scientific research purposes only y'a understand.... ;)

Peace

[2MuchMark]

plsureking why did you block Legacy? Seriously? Dude, chill...

[2MuchMark]

Oh nevermind, you have added me to your ignore list too. Whatever dude...

[2MuchMark]

Originally Posted by mrmister

Is VR porn still selling for you guys? Or is it another fad that's died out. Like when they did 3d in cinema and everyone got bored within two months

From what I know, VR Porn can sell well because as I said in a previous post, it's niche / narrow, and this is a good thing. VR Hardware is expensive, and alot of people tend to buy the high-end hardware for the best expereince. The people who buy the high-end devices are your target audience. If you can target them, you should have pretty good sales.

What you may want to do is reach-out to Legacy and see how you can attract VR Porn seekers to your website. Maybe a few tweaks to your SEO strategy could go along way.

Good luck!!

[plsureking]

Originally Posted by TheLegacy

I guess plsureking didn't figure that I wasn't the only one who thought this even though if he read other threads he'd know he was in the minority. Hopefully you'll not get ridiculed for speaking the truth and upsetting the group that don't want to believe that there are many out there who feel the same

1. there are more active daily VR users every year.

2. VR equipment, apps, and porn sales are growing every year.

3. billions of investment dollars are being dumped into VR.

unless you have real validated stats claiming any of those things are false, your negative opinion really doesn't matter.

read the title of the thread. your opinion is not a valid response.

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[TheLegacy]

Originally Posted by plsureking

1. there are more active daily VR users every year.

2. VR equipment, apps, and porn sales are growing every year.

3. billions of investment dollars are being dumped into VR.

unless you have real validated stats claiming any of those things are false, your negative opinion really doesn't matter.

read the title of the thread. your opinion is not a valid response.

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I never wanted this to be a pissing match but you refuse to get over it. You ask for stats yet when I give them you don't read it and then yourself make claims of growth without stats yourself? so obviously if you're claiming that - then give me stats.

I did read the title and gave my opinion - it was you who didn't like it and I'm interested for those who agree with me even in this thread - why aren't you speaking to them?

I never said the VR was useless - never said it wasn't growing - what I did say is that it is still a niche and that it still has problems that I hope they resolve because I do believe it has value eventually when they get their act together. I'm cheering for VR - I am

[plsureking]

Originally Posted by TheLegacy

I never said the VR was useless - never said it wasn't growing - what I did say is that it is still a niche and that it still has problems that I hope they resolve because I do believe it has value eventually when they get their act together. I'm cheering for VR - I am

yea gfy battles are fun but annoying lol

i can post references. its a hot topic.

https://www.vrsmash.com/insights/8/V...lion_by_202 6

https://www.precedenceresearch.com/v...reality-market

https://vrbangers.com/blog/what-lies...ality-in-2023/

Originally Posted by 2MuchMark

Oh nevermind, you have added me to your ignore list too. Whatever dude...

nothing personal there. i dont really have feelings. its more about easily skipping the time consumers (in my opinion). you left the industry and post several comments at a time (see above). your comments aren't really industry related anymore. nothing personal, i'd just rather skip over them. i do read blocked posts sometimes when i click around logged out.



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[2MuchMark]

Originally Posted by plsureking

yea gfy battles are fun but annoying lol

i can post references. its a hot topic.

https://www.vrsmash.com/insights/8/V...lion_by_202 6

https://www.precedenceresearch.com/v...reality-market

https://vrbangers.com/blog/what-lies...ality-in-2023/



nothing personal there. i dont really have feelings. its more about easily skipping the time consumers (in my opinion). you left the industry and post several comments at a time (see above). your comments aren't really industry related anymore. nothing personal, i'd just rather skip over them. i do read blocked posts sometimes when i click around logged out.



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A couple of notes on that:

Actually, you misundertand me. I am still in adult. I just happen to also be in mainstream too, and have been since 2013. I'm sure you realize that technology serves both sectors extremely well.

Please do me a favour, and read my comments in post #15 above, especially the " I love technology" part, and tell me if I am wrong.

Then read my post #18, where I am actually supporting you and backing up what you said, and tell me if I am wrong there too.





Tell you what - please take a few minutes and read my comments on the subject