OnlyFans had 2.5 billion in revenue for 2022.

[mainstreammix]

I remember some here shrugging it off as if it were no big deal. 2.5 billion isn't "no big deal."

https://www.usesignhouse.com/blog/on...th%20SignHouse.

[OneHungLo]

That's wild. I made some good money with Leo wayyy back in the day.

[esham]

Leo Radvinsky ripped me off or someone from mfc, in maybe 2009 I referred users to to mfc 10 tokens per registration. Support claimed token referrals wasent working proper. They wiped my 10k tokens. When i know tons of users from that forum was joining with usernames related to that site. leo Radvinsky is a peace of shit. Running password sharing site with illegal material. ultrapasswords or something like that its been forever. Then i read about some of the other things hes done not paying someone that was owed money.

https://gfy.com/fucking-around-and-b...com-steal.html

[OneHungLo]

Originally Posted by esham

Leo Radvinsky ripped me off or someone from mfc, in maybe 2009 I referred users to to mfc 10 tokens per registration. Support claimed token referrals wasent working proper. They wiped my 10k tokens. When i know tons of users from that forum was joining with usernames related to that site. leo Radvinsky is a peace of shit. Running password sharing site with illegal material. ultrapasswords or something like that its been forever. Then i read about some of the other things hes done not paying someone that was owed money.

https://gfy.com/fucking-around-and-b...com-steal.html

Yeah, I did business with him when he owned ultrapasswords. He never gave away my password but just used fake passwords and sent me traffic.

.

[esham]

Originally Posted by OneHungLo

Yeah, I did business with him when he owned ultrapasswords. He never gave away my password but just used fake passwords and sent me traffic.

.

Did you ever visit The site? I think he may of linked or showed animal porn or worse. Its been to long. I would look at the passwords or a Amsterdam live feed. But I was scared of clicking on any links. peekshows might of been embed to.

[CaptainHowdy]

Guess you don't make mucho money with some skeletons in your closet . . .

[Kelli58]

This doesn't surprise me. The personal connection you get with the creator (even if faked) is a very profitable hook that you can't get with a traditional porn site.

[djroof]

Originally Posted by Kelli58

This doesn't surprise me. The personal connection you get with the creator (even if faked) is a very profitable hook that you can't get with a traditional porn site.

Agree 100%

[SageHarper]

It's all about staying flexible and evolving with the times! Just like Darwin said, it's not the strongest or the most intelligent who survive but those most responsive to change.

[mechanicvirus]

Congrats to the winners

[2MuchMark]

Originally Posted by kelli58

this doesn't surprise me. The personal connection you get with the creator (even if faked) is a very profitable hook that you can't get with a traditional porn site.

^^^^^^^^ this ^^^^^^^^^^

[Klen]

Originally Posted by Kelli58

This doesn't surprise me. The personal connection you get with the creator (even if faked) is a very profitable hook that you can't get with a traditional porn site.

I would say how onlyfans is basically revamped sologirl niche. Sologirl paysites were poor with content so they had to put more effort into making connections in order to make money.

[Rochard]

Remember when all of us were sitting around asking "What is going to be the next big thing in our industry?". Well, now we know.

[plsureking]

Originally Posted by Kelli58

This doesn't surprise me. The personal connection you get with the creator (even if faked) is a very profitable hook that you can't get with a traditional porn site.

i tell every PornCMS site owner to make it personal. how many do it? 1 out of 20. everybody wants to be a big publisher, but even Penthouse is dead.

Lelu Love is still doing the virtual girlfriend thing. she started a decade ago posting vids for free on torrents and then opened a paysite. she stopped working for a living long before OF opened.

OF content is still on OF. models should be pushing members to a home site. its cheap and easy to set up.

#

[Dugmor]

And what is everyone here doing to profit from OnlyFans other than being an OF creator?

I am one of the leading suppliers of SMS Phone Number Verification services.

Some of my biggest clients are OFM ( Only Fan Marketing ) agencies.

I also have other OFM services, but I don't make them public.

OnlyFans has been a GOLD RUSH for a while now.
Are you digging for gold or selling the picks and shovels?

[mainstreammix]

Originally Posted by plsureking

i tell every PornCMS site owner to make it personal. how many do it? 1 out of 20. everybody wants to be a big publisher, but even Penthouse is dead.

Lelu Love is still doing the virtual girlfriend thing. she started a decade ago posting vids for free on torrents and then opened a paysite. she stopped working for a living long before OF opened.

OF content is still on OF. models should be pushing members to a home site. its cheap and easy to set up.

#

My guy, what year are you in? These girls are self promoting and have their clients contact on Facebook, Twitter, Instagram, Snapchat, etc. I've never seen one pushing OF that doesn't also take direct payments so they absolutely do not need their own site, the actual girl will reply to you on Facebook and send you her nudes.

[plsureking]

Originally Posted by mainstreammix

My guy, what year are you in? These girls are self promoting and have their clients contact on Facebook, Twitter, Instagram, Snapchat, etc. I've never seen one pushing OF that doesn't also take direct payments so they absolutely do not need their own site, the actual girl will reply to you on Facebook and send you her nudes.

yea there's females pushing nudes and vids on DMs everywhere, but that ain't a business and its not going to last. fine if they just want a little Gucci money for xmas, but they are hobbyists.

Lelu made more money in her career than 95% of the models on OF. 10 years of earnings, not some tips in DMs. she's getting $99/month rebills. that is a business, not a hobby.

what year am i in? i'm looking at next year, not last year. i want models making money during the 6 months they don't feel like DMing every beta male on IG. we have dozens of producers whose sites run on autopilot. they haven't signed into their admin in years, but they get checks every month. that's real income, not DM or cam tips.

#

[AmeliaG]

Not to be all mathy, but that financial breakdown has some errors in it. Not something I have researched deeply myself, so I don't know what the reality is, but, for example, if OF paid out $12.5 billion, then their top line revenue has to be more than $12.5 billion. Also, the axes on their graphs are wrong.

[mainstreammix]

Originally Posted by plsureking

yea there's females pushing nudes and vids on DMs everywhere, but that ain't a business and its not going to last. fine if they just want a little Gucci money for xmas, but they are hobbyists.

Lelu made more money in her career than 95% of the models on OF. 10 years of earnings, not some tips in DMs. she's getting $99/month rebills. that is a business, not a hobby.

what year am i in? i'm looking at next year, not last year. i want models making money during the 6 months they don't feel like DMing every beta male on IG. we have dozens of producers whose sites run on autopilot. they haven't signed into their admin in years, but they get checks every month. that's real income, not DM or cam tips.

#

And this is why industries die. Company make 2.5 billion doing something you could have easily done but you do it better.

The talent has decided they don't need you in the middle and you just don't know it yet.

[mainstreammix]

Originally Posted by AmeliaG

Not to be all mathy, but that financial breakdown has some errors in it. Not something I have researched deeply myself, so I don't know what the reality is, but, for example, if OF paid out $12.5 billion, then their top line revenue has to be more than $12.5 billion. Also, the axes on their graphs are wrong.

I was waiting on someone to notice that the 2.5 billion was purported to be OF's share and not revenue counting the models but instead we get dinos telling us how the model is shit.

[Major (Tom)]

Originally Posted by Rochard

Remember when all of us were sitting around asking "What is going to be the next big thing in our industry?". Well, now we know.

This is the big thing. What is the next big thing

[Major (Tom)]

Has anyone pointed out the flaw in this model yet? Or rather, the ecosystem that it created?

[plsureking]

Originally Posted by mainstreammix

And this is why industries die. Company make 2.5 billion doing something you could have easily done but you do it better.

The talent has decided they don't need you in the middle and you just don't know it yet.

talent can rarely manage their assets or themselves. if they could, agents and managers wouldn't be a thing.

i'm gonna keep on working every day for the clients who pay me. you keep doing you. whatever the fuck that is

#

[mainstreammix]

Originally Posted by plsureking

talent can rarely manage their assets or themselves. if they could, agents and managers wouldn't be a thing.

i'm gonna keep on working every day for the clients who pay me. you keep doing you. whatever the fuck that is

#

Yawn. Some talent sucks, agents existing is more proof they don't need YOU. Did it every cross your little mind that the talent doesn't want her pics all over a website / domain like that? Did you consider that anything you can do on a website you can do on OF? I'm sure your shit is great for what it is, so try not discounting the business that rocketed to 15 billion a year in revenue while you "continued to work for clients."

[NatalieK]

Originally Posted by mainstreammix

I remember some here shrugging it off as if it were no big deal. 2.5 billion isn't "no big deal."

https://www.usesignhouse.com/blog/on...th%20SignHouse.

these stats probably aren´t correct, as it shows 2.5billion for 2022 & profits of 1.2 billion...

well, profits are obviously after all payments, whether to models, servers, staff...

ok, well 20% is what they take from revenue, this to pay for all of the above after the creator is paid.

20% of 2.5billion is 500 million now 1.2 billion...

then remove the staff, servers & billion company payments, probably 400 million profits, still amazing figures, and proves there´s money in adult

[mainstreammix]

Originally Posted by NatalieK

these stats probably aren´t correct, as it shows 2.5billion for 2022 & profits of 1.2 billion...

well, profits are obviously after all payments, whether to models, servers, staff...

ok, well 20% is what they take from revenue, this to pay for all of the above after the creator is paid.

20% of 2.5billion is 500 million now 1.2 billion...

then remove the staff, servers & billion company payments, probably 400 million profits, still amazing figures, and proves there´s money in adult

Try again.

[trevesty]

Originally Posted by plsureking

yea there's females pushing nudes and vids on DMs everywhere, but that ain't a business and its not going to last. fine if they just want a little Gucci money for xmas, but they are hobbyists.

Lelu made more money in her career than 95% of the models on OF. 10 years of earnings, not some tips in DMs. she's getting $99/month rebills. that is a business, not a hobby.

what year am i in? i'm looking at next year, not last year. i want models making money during the 6 months they don't feel like DMing every beta male on IG. we have dozens of producers whose sites run on autopilot. they haven't signed into their admin in years, but they get checks every month. that's real income, not DM or cam tips.

#

I know Lelu is your most popular client by a long shot, but there are hundreds if not thousands of OF girls pulling in mid 6 figures per month. Your $99/mo rebills ain't shit compared to them sending out one DM per day for $20 per. Most of them will sell thousands of each.. daily. A lot of us were heavily involved in the solo girl world and it's pretty easy to figure out based on Lelu's traffic, site age, etc., just how many of those $99 / mo rebills she has.

There are no name girls who are local to me with only 50-75 subs on OF who make 15-20k per month from the DM's that you call a "hobby". I've seen the checks.

Girls like Amouranth use their OF money to buy up gas stations, apartment complexes and shit like that. She makes most of her money via DMs on there. Ya know, the "hobby". She's the top of the food chain, but there are quite a few girls not too far below her who very much do similar. But according to you, it's not going to last and it's just xmas money. I don't remember my grandparents gifting me gas stations and apartment complexes for xmas, but maybe we had a different upbringing.

I get that you gotta make it seem like your product is the best thing on the planet 100%. But if you're gonna spew bullshit, you gotta expect to get called on it.

[King Mark]

"In the grand theater of existence, there are those akin to dinosaurs, stoically witnessing the cosmic upheavals without concern, as remnants of familiarity linger. Yet, amidst this contemplative stillness, there exist beings akin to birds, soaring with a profound awareness of change." - King Marquavious "Kang" bin Lopez (PBBC Fo Li)

[adultinnovation]

Originally Posted by Kelli58

This doesn't surprise me. The personal connection you get with the creator (even if faked) is a very profitable hook that you can't get with a traditional porn site.

why not? there's no difference between only fans and a solo model paysite with some chat feature being used by some filipino chatter fuck pretending to be the girl

[Major (Tom)]

Originally Posted by mainstreammix

Yawn. Some talent sucks, agents existing is more proof they don't need YOU. Did it every cross your little mind that the talent doesn't want her pics all over a website / domain like that? Did you consider that anything you can do on a website you can do on OF? I'm sure your shit is great for what it is, so try not discounting the business that rocketed to 15 billion a year in revenue while you "continued to work for clients."

Onlyfans has been a blessing for producers

[Major (Tom)]

Originally Posted by King Mark

"In the grand theater of existence, there are those akin to dinosaurs, stoically witnessing the cosmic upheavals without concern, as remnants of familiarity linger. Yet, amidst this contemplative stillness, there exist beings akin to birds, soaring with a profound awareness of change." - King Marquavious "Kang" bin Lopez (PBBC Fo Li)

You fail to realize that onlyfans is one single large platform and there isn’t an equivalent— only knockoffs. Just like there is only one twitter. Remember everyone was quitting twitter? Now everyone has a verified check mark. Everyone is catering to the models, but what is being overlooked is Leo runs it all. It ALL goes through him. So, who really are billers, & bow tied barr buttmunches really catering to? Not the model. Leo. This is the problem with everyone running to join the ecosystem. It’s contingent upon 1 man, 1 company. More of the same, really.

Everyone says this empowers models. Maybe it does, but I’ve seen more scumbag fly by nights pop up over night and collecting every cent off their onlyfans, suitcase pimps and fanboys with their “camera phone” suddenly become creators. Testing is lax, everything is lax. And here is the kicker. Everyone heralds onlyfans as being such a great opportunity. Maybe it is, but I don’t ever recall this industry ever telling a women that she can’t run her own tube empire, huge network of paysites or cash programs— traffic empires or ad empires etc. Never has anyone said women were not allowed to do these things in this industry. The question is, why haven't they?? So is onlyfans really that great? Is this some kind of victory? Or the banality of low expectations—or, even yet, just another tooth in the gears of the bro club. It begs a lot of questions.

[mainstreammix]

Originally Posted by DukeSkywalker

Onlyfans has been a blessing for producers

Rock on for recognizing it. The guy I'm giggling at above should love it for delivering him millions of potential clients as well, instead he's salty about them lapping him approximately 1 billion times.

[Major (Tom)]

Originally Posted by mainstreammix

Rock on for recognizing it. The guy I'm giggling at above should love it for delivering him millions of potential clients as well, instead he's salty about them lapping him approximately 1 billion times.

Read above, too. I nailed it.

[plsureking]

Originally Posted by trevesty

I know Lelu is your most popular client by a long shot, but there are hundreds if not thousands of OF girls pulling in mid 6 figures per month. Your $99/mo rebills ain't shit compared to them sending out one DM per day for $20 per. Most of them will sell thousands of each.. daily. A lot of us were heavily involved in the solo girl world and it's pretty easy to figure out based on Lelu's traffic, site age, etc., just how many of those $99 / mo rebills she has.

There are no name girls who are local to me with only 50-75 subs on OF who make 15-20k per month from the DM's that you call a "hobby". I've seen the checks.

Girls like Amouranth use their OF money to buy up gas stations, apartment complexes and shit like that. She makes most of her money via DMs on there. Ya know, the "hobby". She's the top of the food chain, but there are quite a few girls not too far below her who very much do similar. But according to you, it's not going to last and it's just xmas money. I don't remember my grandparents gifting me gas stations and apartment complexes for xmas, but maybe we had a different upbringing.

I get that you gotta make it seem like your product is the best thing on the planet 100%. But if you're gonna spew bullshit, you gotta expect to get called on it.

1. this isn't a competition. this thread shows there's obviously plenty of room in the market.

2. PornCMS is just a product to manage a paysite. there are many real world use cases. affiliate clowns on gfy say paysites are dead, but they still cash those paysite affiliate checks. i still get rebills from affiliate work i did 15 years ago.

3. this is the only thread where affiliates are claiming models should only be on OF and not diversify their online portfolio. most other threads everybody is saying sell everywhere you can and own a home paysite for security. its pretty standard advice and still relevant.

4. Lelu is not the biggest client on PornCMS. she's somewhere in the middle. her rebills will go on for many years. she's not buying gas stations, and she's not #1 on OF, so she's not legit? she likely makes more than you in adult.

5. there's more than one business model. financial security and ongoing revenue are the goals, not to be #1 in the eyes of a few gfy trolls. #1 is great, but #2 thru #100,000 are also making a good living and don't have to wait tables.

6. i doubt most of the trolls in this thread are making a living in adult anymore. pessimistic whiners telling everybody else what can't be done

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[plsureking]

Originally Posted by mainstreammix

Yawn. Some talent sucks, agents existing is more proof they don't need YOU. Did it every cross your little mind that the talent doesn't want her pics all over a website / domain like that? Did you consider that anything you can do on a website you can do on OF? I'm sure your shit is great for what it is, so try not discounting the business that rocketed to 15 billion a year in revenue while you "continued to work for clients."

maybe you got defensive and thought i was knocking OF? i never did. i think OF is great. i know many OF models. its huge in Thailand too.

my message this entire thread was diversification.

maybe my "little mind" sees a bigger picture than your huge melon?

#

[metalbrickcash]

Yes and its only beginning I wonder if this includes MyFreeCams.com as well

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[OldJeff]

Originally Posted by Dugmor

And what is everyone here doing to profit from OnlyFans other than being an OF creator?

OnlyFans has been a GOLD RUSH for a while now.
Are you digging for gold or selling the picks and shovels?

Most of the people here are doing what they have always done when other people were making money with....

Password Trading
Consoles
TGPs
MGPs
Tubes
Cross Sales

(I fell asleep for a while here...)

Social Media
Only Fans
AI

I am sure there is a lot of shit I am missing because I am not the sharpest tool in the shed.

But the same thing they are all doing is complaining.

[RyuLion]

I'm not saying anything..

[Huggles]

Originally Posted by Rochard

Remember when all of us were sitting around asking "What is going to be the next big thing in our industry?". Well, now we know.

I released my first book in 2013 when I foresaw the revolution in dating and relationships coming, the internet and online dating allowed a totally new way of making connections outside of what was normally possible for people pre-internet.

Yes yes, we had VHS dating and other matchmaking services, but all of those involved chipping away at serendipity in your own life for fish-in-a-barrel type services where you, I believed, would eventually be in a position where your potential mates would be put behind some sort of monetized scheme to keep people single and trapped in serial monogamist relationships without them even being aware that their mating and dating had been totally gamed by the system.

I was right.

Now in the west (At least Canada for sure) you have young men too afraid to approach women in public out of fear of being called a harasser, the word "incel" slapped on you is even worse than being called a pervert or queer, which would have been fightin' words in the 90's or 00's, and the balance of power has wildly swung towards women.

Remember in the 90's and 00's where women chased men around? I remember, it was a completely different planet back then. The smartphone has allowed a completely new form of relationship to develop. All this tech gives the ability for someone to seduce you through a screen without even requiring the person to meet up with you.

Why would a woman settle for a regular joe with a regular job, get married, and have kids when she could have 1000+ boyfriends paying $15 a month and she spends some time listening to their problems and telling her how hot she is, and then they send her a couple of dick pics and she replies "oooh I'm so turned on" which is more female attention than that guy has got for years. He's fucking hooked.

Birth rates plummeting, male friendship crisis, people lonely as fuck and on all sorts of drugs... someone just found a way to capitalize on people's desperation for any sort of human connection. I feel like old fucks like me could see this coming a mile away as subcultures disappeared, people became much more conformist, and the balance of power between the sexes is totally out-of-whack.

[Huggles]

Originally Posted by OldJeff

Password Trading
Consoles
TGPs
MGPs
Tubes
Cross Sales

(I fell asleep for a while here...)

Social Media
Only Fans
AI

I am sure there is a lot of shit I am missing because I am not the sharpest tool in the shed.

But the same thing they are all doing is complaining.

I think everything is pointing towards people being more and more isolated as people just give up on dating and find ways to get their sexual and relationship needs through electronic devices.

Funny how the more they engage in the use of a device to cure their loneliness the more lonely and incapable of forming real life relationships they will become.

[2MuchMark]

Building a "personal" connection is crucial for attracting customers, especially high-value ones. Maintaining their interest and loyalty can be achieved by tapping into the common male fantasy of someday meeting in person. This approach helps retain customers and encourages continued spending, something OF does to perfection. Congrats.

[Huggles]

Originally Posted by 2MuchMark

Building a "personal" connection is crucial for attracting customers, especially high-value ones.

I have a Nigerian Prince friend who needs some help moving some money...

[$5 submissions]

Doesn't look like any other system comes close

[RyuLion]

The chat system will eventually be improved..nuf said..
Specially for loyal fans that have invested long term..

[xxxclusive]

Originally Posted by Huggles

I released my first book in 2013 when I foresaw the revolution in dating and relationships coming, the internet and online dating allowed a totally new way of making connections outside of what was normally possible for people pre-internet.

Yes yes, we had VHS dating and other matchmaking services, but all of those involved chipping away at serendipity in your own life for fish-in-a-barrel type services where you, I believed, would eventually be in a position where your potential mates would be put behind some sort of monetized scheme to keep people single and trapped in serial monogamist relationships without them even being aware that their mating and dating had been totally gamed by the system.

I was right.

Now in the west (At least Canada for sure) you have young men too afraid to approach women in public out of fear of being called a harasser, the word "incel" slapped on you is even worse than being called a pervert or queer, which would have been fightin' words in the 90's or 00's, and the balance of power has wildly swung towards women.

Remember in the 90's and 00's where women chased men around? I remember, it was a completely different planet back then. The smartphone has allowed a completely new form of relationship to develop. All this tech gives the ability for someone to seduce you through a screen without even requiring the person to meet up with you.

Why would a woman settle for a regular joe with a regular job, get married, and have kids when she could have 1000+ boyfriends paying $15 a month and she spends some time listening to their problems and telling her how hot she is, and then they send her a couple of dick pics and she replies "oooh I'm so turned on" which is more female attention than that guy has got for years. He's fucking hooked.

Birth rates plummeting, male friendship crisis, people lonely as fuck and on all sorts of drugs... someone just found a way to capitalize on people's desperation for any sort of human connection. I feel like old fucks like me could see this coming a mile away as subcultures disappeared, people became much more conformist, and the balance of power between the sexes is totally out-of-whack.

That's why masculine cultures like Islam who have their women in check will take over and solve this at one point in the future.