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xxxclusive · 04-03-2025, 08:18 AM

Wonder what will happen with the adult profiles of X/Twitter

roshnikhanna · 04-03-2025, 09:37 AM

I'll simply remove all HC pics from the tour, this should be fine for the beginning.

NatalieK · 04-03-2025, 09:46 AM

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Originally Posted by xxxclusive

It's not about all users switching to piracy, but a yet unknown amount will rather use piracy than doing a face id scan.

Agreed. Although, piracy´s always been problematic, but yes, seeing your point. It´s possible switching to piracy & sites with stolen content could theoretically become more of a problem & we may see a growth in piracy

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Originally Posted by xxxclusive

Wonder what will happen with the adult profiles of X/Twitter

likewise with Whats app & other group chats...

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Originally Posted by roshnikhanna

I'll simply remove all HC pics from the tour, this should be fine for the beginning.

The Porn Nerd · 04-03-2025, 09:56 AM

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Originally Posted by 2MuchMark

The idea is that now if the feds knock on your door, they will ask to see that your paying member was actually age verified.

Feds are not going to knock on your door. LOL Enforcement is going to be the thing. There are millions upon millions of adult websites on the Web. No one has the resources to police every site. That's why all this nonsense should be handled by the payment gateways.

And shouldn't the cc processors (CCBill, Epoch, merch accounts, etc) be doing the age verification anyway?

Leexxx · 04-03-2025, 10:13 AM

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Originally Posted by pornlaw

Once SCOTUS upholds AVS, it wont matter who you vote for. It will be law and it will stay.

A law that is impossible to enforce. You should stop being a fearmonger, saw your X account and you posted very clickbait article with the tittle "House of Reps orders ban on porn websites, calls for ISP sanctions" then you click and was in NIGERIA.. really????. Everything you post is fear.

2MuchMark · 04-03-2025, 10:55 AM

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Originally Posted by xxxclusive

Wonder what will happen with the adult profiles of X/Twitter

Nothing because Twitter isn't selling those images. And besides, Musk will just pay Chump to have anyone who opposes him made dead.

2MuchMark · 04-03-2025, 11:02 AM

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Originally Posted by The Porn Nerd

Feds are not going to knock on your door. LOL Enforcement is going to be the thing. There are millions upon millions of adult websites on the Web. No one has the resources to police every site.

Of course they probably won't knock on your door, but I hope you understand what I meant. If your porn site were doing well and you or a model were active on social media and some stuck-up Govenor got caught looking at her tits, he would claim it was research, see you don't have age verification on your site, and sue you, just like what happened to Met Art. You would have to prove that your AVS is in place, and working.

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Originally Posted by The Porn Nerd

And shouldn't the cc processors (CCBill, Epoch, merch accounts, etc) be doing the age verification anyway?

Of course not. You have to have 18 USC on your site and make sure you have the photo ID's of your models, right? It's not up to the processors. And besides, they don't want to be responsible to verify the age of your website customers, let alone your website visitors. The responsibility is completely on you my friend.

Leexxx · 04-03-2025, 11:59 AM

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Originally Posted by 2MuchMark

Of course they probably won't knock on your door, but I hope you understand what I meant. If your porn site were doing well and you or a model were active on social media and some stuck-up Govenor got caught looking at her tits, he would claim it was research, see you don't have age verification on your site, and sue you, just like what happened to Met Art. You would have to prove that your AVS is in place, and working.

Of course not. You have to have 18 USC on your site and make sure you have the photo ID's of your models, right? It's not up to the processors. And besides, they don't want to be responsible to verify the age of your website customers, let alone your website visitors. The responsibility is completely on you my friend.

of course and you sell an overprice AV service

Every 3-4 years a "anti-porn" law is going to "terminate" the industry and here we are making more money than the prior year, elections are next year, politicians are just doing campaigns. They real "law" is the cc processor and the only one you should fear is your industry "peers".

The Porn Nerd · 04-03-2025, 12:24 PM

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Originally Posted by 2MuchMark

Of course not. You have to have 18 USC on your site and make sure you have the photo ID's of your models, right? It's not up to the processors. And besides, they don't want to be responsible to verify the age of your website customers, let alone your website visitors. The responsibility is completely on you my friend.

You are mixing up 2257 and Age Verification. I do not have to prove to the visitor if the models are over 18 but the visitor has to prove to me he/she is over 18, right?

Then if you have a SFW tour with little to no nudity or sex acts displayed (descriptions are apparently fine) then when it comes time to get behind the pay wall that's when the age verification should kick in, and that should be the responsibility of the payment processors who are actually accepting the money and holding the cc info.

pornlaw · 04-03-2025, 12:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Leexxx

A law that is impossible to enforce. You should stop being a fearmonger, saw your X account and you posted very clickbait article with the tittle "House of Reps orders ban on porn websites, calls for ISP sanctions" then you click and was in NIGERIA.. really????. Everything you post is fear.

I don't write the bylines, I just click the X share on the article... that was a the byline in the article, I don't edit them.... and since I have clients everywhere, I share articles from all over the world.

Up until a few months ago, I though this law would be overturned. But with the recent SCOTUS decisions I am doubting that now and now especially how they sent this back to the Fifth Circuit in Texas. This isn't a 6-3 Republican court. This is a 5-4 court and it can go either way on any issue.

pornlaw · 04-03-2025, 12:39 PM

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Originally Posted by The Porn Nerd

Feds are not going to knock on your door. LOL Enforcement is going to be the thing. There are millions upon millions of adult websites on the Web. No one has the resources to police every site. That's why all this nonsense should be handled by the payment gateways.

And shouldn't the cc processors (CCBill, Epoch, merch accounts, etc) be doing the age verification anyway?

The only way it could be enforced is through lawsuits. No one is going to knock on your door though other than a process server. I doubt that private attorneys will waste their time with these lawsuit but City Attorneys might...

https://www.politico.com/news/2024/0...nudes-00174487

NatalieK · 04-03-2025, 02:17 PM

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Originally Posted by The Porn Nerd

You are mixing up 2257 and Age Verification. I do not have to prove to the visitor if the models are over 18 but the visitor has to prove to me he/she is over 18, right?

Then if you have a SFW tour with little to no nudity or sex acts displayed (descriptions are apparently fine) then when it comes time to get behind the pay wall that's when the age verification should kick in, and that should be the responsibility of the payment processors who are actually accepting the money and holding the cc info.

actually, I do agree with this, it should be down the the payment company, however...

sadly, it´s not.

It is down to the site owner to have AV to verify the age of the surfer. I would have thought it´s because every porn sites needs the AV even free porn sites, whether payment is processed or not.

CaptainHowdy · 04-03-2025, 04:32 PM

If anyone wants out, see sig . . .

CyberHustler · 04-03-2025, 09:53 PM

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Originally Posted by 2MuchMark

Yes, but, you still have to verify their age before the signup, and you have to have a token of some kind assigned to that user that proves you did age verification of that paying user.

The flow might look like this:

User from Florida? Yes.
- > SFW Tour -> Ready To Join=Yes? -> AgeVerify>18=Yes? -> Create Token - > Complete Purchase -> Bind Token - > Proceed to Members area.

The idea is that now if the feds knock on your door, they will ask to see that your paying member was actually age verified.

It sounds complicated but it is actually not too hard to do.

Prompt: Diagram this whole flow that bro is talking about visually and sketch up some quick example code structures. Reply to me like this is an opportunity to get rich, and make it bbcode so I can copy your reply from here and paste it on a forum: (pastes Marks entire post)

ChatGPT:

[Project Drop] Universal Age Verification System for Adult Sites
A Million-Dollar SaaS Idea Built for the New Laws

[hr]

The Problem
New age verification laws are cracking down across the U.S., UK, and beyond.
Adult site owners are scrambling. Traffic is dropping. Lawsuits are looming.

Most of them:

Have no technical ability to implement age verification
Don't want to spend $1,000s building custom solutions
Just need something simple that works

[hr]

The Opportunity
What if you built a drop-in age verification system that works for any adult site?

Not just a WordPress plugin — but a universal copy/paste script they can use in 60 seconds.
Think Google Analytics... but for age compliance.

[hr]

Flow Diagram: How It Works

Code:

User visits site
 ↓
Geo Check (e.g. FL, UK?)
 ↓
Yes → Require Age Verification
No  → Soft Gate / Optional
 ↓
SFW Tour (optional)
 ↓
"Ready to Join?" Prompt
 ↓
Age Verification (Yoti, Veriff)
 ↓
Create Token
 ↓
Complete Purchase
 ↓
Bind Token to User
 ↓
Access Members Area

[hr]

MVP Flow (Backend + Frontend)

User visits site
JS Snippet runs → Geo check
If restricted state → Show modal
User verifies age via ID or selfie
Your backend issues a secure token
Token passed to billing (CCBill, Segpay, etc.)
Token is bound to user after purchase
Access granted to members area

[hr]

Tech Stack Recommendation

Code:

Frontend JS   → Vanilla JS or React
Modal/Embed   → Custom JS + CSS (one-liner)
Backend API   → Node.js + Express OR FastAPI
Token System  → JWT (signed)
Age Verify    → Yoti or Veriff API
GeoIP         → IPinfo / MaxMind / ipapi
DB            → PostgreSQL
Admin Panel   → Supabase or React + Firebase
Payments      → Stripe (for your SaaS billing)

[hr]

Client Integration (One Line of Code)

Code:

<script src="https://yourdomain.com/agegate.js" defer></script>

What it does:

Detects geo region
Shows age modal if needed
Handles verification + token
Securely stores age verification
Passes it to the site’s billing system

[hr]

Admin Panel for Site Owners

Get embed code
View verification logs
Customize logo/colors (Pro/Agency tier)
Export compliance logs
API access for advanced devs

[hr]

Monetization Plan

Code:

Free      → $0        → Click-to-confirm modal only
Starter   → $19/mo    → Token-based flow, basic logging
Pro       → $49–99/mo → Full ID verification, logs, branding
Agency    → $499+/mo  → Multi-site, white-label, API access

[hr]

What’s Next
I’m building this to help adult site owners stay compliant and online — fast.
If you're interested in:

Beta access
Referrals / affiliate program
Becoming a launch partner

DM me or reply here. Let’s talk.

[hr]

Let me know if you want a custom landing page, pitch deck, or actual MVP repo next.

Prompt: More

ChatGPT:

Phase 1: System Architecture Overview
Frontend (Embed on Any Site)
1 JavaScript snippet to load everything:

html
Copy
Edit
<script src="https://yourdomain.com/agegate.js" defer></script>
Shows age gate modal

Handles UI logic and token storage (cookie/localStorage)

Backend (Your SaaS Service)
REST API for:

GeoIP lookup

Age verification initiation/status

Token issuance

Token validation

Admin panel for client sites to:

Register site

Get their embed code

Monitor verification logs

Customize branding (optional)

Phase 2: Technology Stack
Layer Tech (recommended)
Frontend JS Vanilla JS or React (for modal)
Backend API Node.js + Express or FastAPI (Python)
Auth/Tokens JWT (signed, expiring access tokens)
DB PostgreSQL (store verifications, tokens)
CDN/Deploy Vercel/Render for frontend, Railway/Render for backend
GeoIP IPinfo, MaxMind, or ipapi
Age Check Yoti API, Veriff API
Phase 3: Flow in Code Terms
1. User Loads the Page
Your script loads, checks location:

js
Copy
Edit
fetch('https://your-api.com/geoip?ip=USER_IP')
.then(res => res.json())
.then(({ requiresVerification }) => {
if (requiresVerification) showAgeGateModal();
});
2. User Completes Verification
Modal pops up → embedded Yoti SDK:

js
Copy
Edit
Yoti.startVerification({ client_id: "your_client_id" })
Once verified, your backend gets the callback.

3. Backend Issues Token
js
Copy
Edit
const jwt = sign({
user_id: anonId,
age_verified: true,
region: "US-FL"
}, JWT_SECRET, { expiresIn: "30d" });
Stored as:

json
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Edit
{
token: "abc123...",
site_id: "example.com",
verified_at: "2025-04-04T12:00",
verification_method: "Yoti"
}
4. Client Site Receives Verified Token
You set a secure cookie or give them:

js
Copy
Edit
window.localStorage.setItem("ageToken", token);
5. On Purchase or Member Login
Client sends:

http
Copy
Edit
POST /validate-token
Authorization: Bearer abc123...
You verify:

js
Copy
Edit
jwt.verify(token, JWT_SECRET)
If valid: allow access.

Phase 4: Admin Dashboard for Clients
Allow clients to:

Add domains

View token logs

Get their embed code

Manage plans (Stripe integration)

Use:

React + Tailwind

Supabase/Auth for quick user management

Stripe for billing/subscription

Phase 5: Monetization Plan
Free plan: Basic click-to-enter modal

Starter: $19/mo — token + soft compliance

Pro: $49–99/mo — ID verification, analytics, legal templates

Agency: $499+/mo — white-labeled, multi-site dashboard

What’s Next
I can:

Sketch the full code repo structure

Draft your first frontend embed script

Write your backend API endpoint structure

Design the admin dashboard

Build a landing page for sales

Which piece do you want to dive into first?

xxxclusive · 04-04-2025, 08:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Porn Nerd

Feds are not going to knock on your door. LOL Enforcement is going to be the thing. There are millions upon millions of adult websites on the Web. No one has the resources to police every site. That's why all this nonsense should be handled by the payment gateways.

And shouldn't the cc processors (CCBill, Epoch, merch accounts, etc) be doing the age verification anyway?

Paying with a CC is kind of age verification.

They can't be made responsible for your free tour and that seems to be the main target of the law.

The Porn Nerd · 04-04-2025, 09:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by xxxclusive

Paying with a CC is kind of age verification.

They can't be made responsible for your free tour and that seems to be the main target of the law.

Ues - which is why free tube sites would have to change their thumbnail-heavy homepages and paysites could show zero nudity.

fuzebox · 04-04-2025, 09:52 AM

I do love when people use the argument "there are millions of porn sites all over the world it's impossible to enforce"

Some of us own public brands based in western countries with millions of dollars in revenue that we pay taxes on, and our name on the company filings. Obviously these threads aren't for Fernando Fucksticks in eastern europe doing $100/mo with his chaturbate whitelabel.

Also I hate that a DVTimes news spam thread is getting traction.

The Porn Nerd · 04-04-2025, 11:23 AM

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Originally Posted by fuzebox

...Fernando Fucksticks...

Mind if I use this for my next onscreen porn persona? I actually have a sombrero ready to go.

Or is it TM'd already?

mrmarlowe · 04-04-2025, 01:33 PM

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Originally Posted by The Porn Nerd

You are mixing up 2257 and Age Verification. I do not have to prove to the visitor if the models are over 18 but the visitor has to prove to me he/she is over 18, right?

Then if you have a SFW tour with little to no nudity or sex acts displayed (descriptions are apparently fine) then when it comes time to get behind the pay wall that's when the age verification should kick in, and that should be the responsibility of the payment processors who are actually accepting the money and holding the cc info.

I agree with you 100% on this.

NatalieK · 04-04-2025, 02:22 PM

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Originally Posted by mrmarlowe

I agree with you 100% on this.

as said above, I agree it should be down to payments, however, the screening isn´t always on payment accounts, it´s to age verify all porn sites, inc. free sites, tubes & blogs, any site with pornographic content, so therefore, it´s not the payment processor, it´s the site owner´s responsibility

Huggles · 04-04-2025, 03:02 PM

The worst part about all of this is... none of it will bring back Gorilla Gras. The greatest adult entertainment website of all time.

RIP.

AmateurFlix · 04-04-2025, 07:41 PM

nvm 8char

cerulean · 04-04-2025, 08:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Porn Nerd

You are mixing up 2257 and Age Verification. I do not have to prove to the visitor if the models are over 18 but the visitor has to prove to me he/she is over 18, right?

Then if you have a SFW tour with little to no nudity or sex acts displayed (descriptions are apparently fine) then when it comes time to get behind the pay wall that's when the age verification should kick in, and that should be the responsibility of the payment processors who are actually accepting the money and holding the cc info.

This is how my login software is setup. After login and 2FA, age verification runs and if the service you pay for says they're above age, they receive full access.

Look Chang · 04-04-2025, 10:36 PM

And nobody seems concerned thinking about old men in their 80s drooling while seeing pussies of girls in their 20s.

Robbie · 04-04-2025, 11:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Yanks_Todd

I agree with most of this, but I would say it is useful to comply with some states. TN is blocked for us.

I believe I saw one attorney say that blocking places isn't going to be good enough.

The whole thing will be moot IF the Supreme Court rules in our favor. But if they don't...then we will all have to do something for AV

I was told that blocking won't work, that having a "clean" tour won't work (because there is porn in the members area)

Pretty much every common sense thing you can think of...won't work.
And that's because it's not about keeping kids off of porn sites. It's about shutting us down.
And the math doesn't work for paying for AV either.

This isn't 1999 and we're all making so much money we don't know what to do with it. We all know that "Free" porn on torrents and now tube sites destroyed sales.

So now there just isn't enough money. I did some quick math with our traffic analytics, and figured our little site would spend $2,000 PER DAY with the cheapest AV solution.
I can't afford that.

NatalieK · 04-05-2025, 12:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Robbie

I was told that blocking won't work, that having a "clean" tour won't work (because there is porn in the members area)
.

AV is to restrict minors from viewing porn.

With a clean tour & no porn seen until payment is accepted, allowing access to the subscriber to the members area, should be enough to stay within the law to only accepting credit card payment after AV has been approved.

Due to the clean tour, most of your traffic would not need to be approved, this would only be those stepping into the payment "join subscription".

The $2000 a day is very unlikely, unless you have 2000 subscribers daily, if so, the loss of 50cents a subscriber is little to lose

fuzebox · 04-05-2025, 08:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Robbie

So now there just isn't enough money. I did some quick math with our traffic analytics, and figured our little site would spend $2,000 PER DAY with the cheapest AV solution.
I can't afford that.

Lots of people running the AV check after credit card approval.

NoWhErE · 04-05-2025, 06:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Robbie

Pretty much every common sense thing you can think of...won't work.
And that's because it's not about keeping kids off of porn sites. It's about shutting us down.

You hit the nail on the head. AV laws have NEVER been about protecting children. If governments actually wanted to do that, they could implement age verification at the device level and call it a day.

All the current laws are 100% about optics and we’re the ones paying the price for it.

If you look at all the state laws, you’ll understand that it’s impossible to comply with all of them.. and thats by design.

Our industry is under attack. Plain and simple

The Porn Nerd · 04-05-2025, 07:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NoWhErE

You hit the nail on the head. AV laws have NEVER been about protecting children. If governments actually wanted to do that, they could implement age verification at the device level and call it a day.

All the current laws are 100% about optics and we’re the ones paying the price for it.

If you look at all the state laws, you’ll understand that it’s impossible to comply with all of them.. and thats by design.

Our industry is under attack. Plain and simple

I blame Only Fans.

NatalieK · 04-06-2025, 09:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Porn Nerd

I blame Only Fans.

I blame ignorant parents giving pre paid phones to their children

Why do kids of 12 need mobiles, yes, to contact their parents, cool, yes maybe to speak with a friend, but nothing wrong with getting on a bike and going around their house & knocking on the door...

why do kids sit in their bedrooms texting & surfing all day & night, not out enjoying life

Rich parents give these presents to their kids & then the blame porn sites for being because their children surfed some porn site...

PUT PARENTAL CONTROL on the internet & the phone...

LOCK it to just calling friends & family!

You don´t send your kid into the tobacconist for your cigs or beer, they go into a newsagents for sweets!

Half the kids surfing porn probably turn out to be great people anyway, and half probably steal from the local shops & rob the next door neighbours, hey, blame the porn, although those kids stealing, would probably steal without a phone or seeing porn!

xxxclusive · 04-07-2025, 12:49 AM

They should do it like Israel. Technically block all pornsites on internet provider level.
So when you book you internet tariff you can simply choose if you want to have it unblocked. It also would be smarter as then also the offshore pirate sites are IP blocked.

Putting the responsibility on pornsite owners seems really to bully them, end of the day most small sites will suffer most and be pushed out of the market and the big players will just get even fatter.

2MuchMark · 04-07-2025, 12:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Leexxx

of course and you sell an overprice AV service

It's not overpriced, it's a vertical market. If the yearly price is too high for you, I can provide it at a monthly price instead, and even give you a free trial so you can make sure it works the way you need it to.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Leexxx

Every 3-4 years a "anti-porn" law is going to "terminate" the industry and here we are making more money than the prior year, elections are next year, politicians are just doing campaigns. They real "law" is the cc processor and the only one you should fear is your industry "peers".

No dude, thats a mistake. Like any other industry, there are regulations to follow which are put in place for pretty good reasons. If you don't want to comply then you are taking chances. Why risk losing your business?

2MuchMark · 04-07-2025, 12:26 PM

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Originally Posted by The Porn Nerd

You are mixing up 2257 and Age Verification.

No I'm not. You said "shouldn't the cc processors (CCBill, Epoch, merch accounts, etc) be doing the age verification anyway?". My answer was to that.

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Porn Nerd

I do not have to prove to the visitor if the models are over 18 but the visitor has to prove to me he/she is over 18, right?

Correct. You have to declare, via 2257, that the models are 18. And now, you have to be ready to prove, that *member* Dave Smith is over 18, and you now have to prove that *visitor* Joe Blow from Florida, is an adult too.

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Porn Nerd

Then if you have a SFW tour with little to no nudity or sex acts displayed (descriptions are apparently fine)

It must contain no nudity, and no, descriptions are not fine. Kris Kobach, the Republican (of course) Kansas Attorney General, has sued Met Art (SARJ LC)

https://www.wibw.com/2025/01/14/kris...site-operator/

Besides the image content, Paragraph 22 of the lawsuit says : "22. For illustration, on sexart.com’s “About Us” page, it advertises an “unrivalled collection of erotic 4K movies [that] brings together the best naturally sexy models, so whether you prefer voluptuous sirens or perky cheerleader types, you are sure to find your dream girl in action here.” One can “[w]atch genuine lesbians lick each other to intense orgasms, and horny cuties give their male lovers the ride of their lives. There’s plenty of superb group sex too, as [Defendant’s] adventurous beauties live out their wildest fantasies."

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Porn Nerd

then when it comes time to get behind the pay wall that's when the age verification should kick in, and that should be the responsibility of the payment processors who are actually accepting the money and holding the cc info.

That would be awesome but of course that would not work. You would be making them legally responsible for your content. *You* are the one that has to be responsible for your content. The payment processor isn't selling your content, they are acting as the payment processor only.

CyberHustler · 04-07-2025, 12:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Robbie

And that's because it's not about keeping kids off of porn sites. It's about shutting us down.

As someone who knowingly voted for this to pwn da libz, how are you feeling about this lib industry you're in starting to actually be pwnd now like you voted for?

😎🍿

NatalieK · 04-07-2025, 12:51 PM

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Originally Posted by xxxclusive

They should do it like Israel. Technically block all pornsites on internet provider level.
So when you book you internet tariff you can simply choose if you want to have it unblocked. It also would be smarter as then also the offshore pirate sites are IP blocked.

Putting the responsibility on pornsite owners seems really to bully them, end of the day most small sites will suffer most and be pushed out of the market and the big players will just get even fatter.

it´s not going to be like Israel, the world agrees with porn. It´s because too many under age are viewing porno, as said...

ban cell phones & internet without safe guard until 18, then would be ok

AmateurFlix · 04-07-2025, 01:34 PM

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Originally Posted by NatalieK

I blame ignorant parents giving pre paid phones to their children

this, 100%

the internet was never intended to be child friendly. it is not a place for kids to peruse unsupervised, it never has been.

this is the equivalent of dropping your kid off at a bookstore that contains an adult section then bitching when they wander in there while you're not paying attention.

2MuchMark · 04-07-2025, 02:14 PM

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Originally Posted by NatalieK

I blame ignorant parents giving pre paid phones to their children

^^^ Yup !!! ^^^

Quote:

Originally Posted by CyberHustler

Quote:

Originally Posted by Robbie

And that's because it's not about keeping kids off of porn sites. It's about shutting us down.
And the math doesn't work for paying for AV either.

As someone who knowingly voted for this to pwn da libz, how are you feeling about this lib industry you're in starting to actually be pwnd now like you voted for?

😎🍿

Good question. Robbie?

CurrentlySober · 04-07-2025, 02:45 PM

2MuchMark · 04-07-2025, 04:18 PM

Robbie? Nothing? Crickets?

The Porn Nerd · 04-07-2025, 04:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 2MuchMark

No I'm not. You said "shouldn't the cc processors (CCBill, Epoch, merch accounts, etc) be doing the age verification anyway?". My answer was to that.

Correct. You have to declare, via 2257, that the models are 18. And now, you have to be ready to prove, that *member* Dave Smith is over 18, and you now have to prove that *visitor* Joe Blow from Florida, is an adult too.

It must contain no nudity, and no, descriptions are not fine. Kris Kobach, the Republican (of course) Kansas Attorney General, has sued Met Art (SARJ LC)

https://www.wibw.com/2025/01/14/kris...site-operator/

Besides the image content, Paragraph 22 of the lawsuit says : "22. For illustration, on sexart.com’s “About Us” page, it advertises an “unrivalled collection of erotic 4K movies [that] brings together the best naturally sexy models, so whether you prefer voluptuous sirens or perky cheerleader types, you are sure to find your dream girl in action here.” One can “[w]atch genuine lesbians lick each other to intense orgasms, and horny cuties give their male lovers the ride of their lives. There’s plenty of superb group sex too, as [Defendant’s] adventurous beauties live out their wildest fantasies."

That would be awesome but of course that would not work. You would be making them legally responsible for your content. *You* are the one that has to be responsible for your content. The payment processor isn't selling your content, they are acting as the payment processor only.

Has the Met-Art case been settled or ajudicated? Because if not a suit means nothing until a verdict. Plus, that is Kansas, not every State.

But okay I will play along: no nudity, nice words only. Good to go?

And what about X, Instagram, etc? Places that show nudity or near nudity? If they also have to age verify....it will be interesting to see how they fight it.

But as far as the processors go: using that old argument of 'I'm not selling it I'm just collecting the money for it' wouldn't work in a strip club or whorehouse so why would it work for digital media? Supposedly 2257 had a safe harbor provision that the tubes thought they were following by NOT reviewing every video. What happened to all of that?

The real thing here, I think, is how strcit Visa and MC will be. Enforcement is an issue with millions of websites but if Visa/MC lay down 'the law' then everyone who wants processing will have to follow it.

What a shit show, eh?

Holy Damage · 04-07-2025, 05:33 PM

I'm just wondering what kind of free site is actually gonna pay $0.30 per user or even $1k–$5k a year / domain just for people to jerk off on it?

Is there a McDonald’s near you guys?

CaptainHowdy · 04-07-2025, 05:43 PM

2MuchMark · 04-07-2025, 06:22 PM

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Originally Posted by The Porn Nerd

Has the Met-Art case been settled or ajudicated? Because if not a suit means nothing until a verdict. Plus, that is Kansas, not every State.

But okay I will play along: no nudity, nice words only. Good to go?

And what about X, Instagram, etc? Places that show nudity or near nudity? If they also have to age verify....it will be interesting to see how they fight it.

But as far as the processors go: using that old argument of 'I'm not selling it I'm just collecting the money for it' wouldn't work in a strip club or whorehouse so why would it work for digital media? Supposedly 2257 had a safe harbor provision that the tubes thought they were following by NOT reviewing every video. What happened to all of that?

The real thing here, I think, is how strcit Visa and MC will be. Enforcement is an issue with millions of websites but if Visa/MC lay down 'the law' then everyone who wants processing will have to follow it.

What a shit show, eh?

It's a shitshow yes, but when you think about it, it's (1) expected, and (2), it's not that bad. Kids can get instant access to porn now and while I wouldn't care if my kids saw boobies, I can completely understand why some parents would trip-out.

In a way, we are all really lucky that the new laws are coming into effect now that the technology exists to do whats required.

Cheers.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Holy Damage

I'm just wondering what kind of free site is actually gonna pay $0.30 per user or even $1k–$5k a year / domain just for people to jerk off on it?

Where is the price coming from though? Wobbie complained about a crazy-high price earlier in this thread. Whoever quoted you that is bonkers.

xxxclusive · 04-08-2025, 03:05 AM

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Originally Posted by NatalieK

it´s not going to be like Israel, the world agrees with porn. It´s because too many under age are viewing porno, as said...

ban cell phones & internet without safe guard until 18, then would be ok

Yes but it should be like in Israel as it's the easiest solution without loop holes. Pushing responsibility on website owners just lowers their margin and many small ones will go out of biz.

Also pirate sites are unaffected and will even profit, like Robbie said it's aimed against the legal porn industry.

xxxclusive · 04-08-2025, 03:13 AM

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Originally Posted by The Porn Nerd

And what about X, Instagram, etc? Places that show nudity or near nudity? If they also have to age verify....it will be interesting to see how they fight it.

Total shitshow by cuckservative who don't understand the www.

TikTok and Insta are pure softporn, especially TikTok is full of 16 year old girls showing off camel toe and twerking in yoga pants.

Insta isn't much better, would bet 90% off their in platform traffic circles around women who wear bikinis and sexy dresses. Because that's the easiest way to get followers and likes these days.

But yes porn is the main problem for kids.

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