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Publisher Bucks · 04-16-2025, 03:06 AM

Has the post-covid mentality of price increases and lower wages/earnings made it easier for companies to shave?

Just curious if you think that 'shaving' is still a thing and, whether its becoming easier to do because of how we've been groomed to think that the cost of products with lower disposable incomes are affecting sales?

Thoughts?

One thing that I'm noticing on the non-porn side of things is the immediately after affiliate payments are sent out, sales stagnate for 24-48 hours.

NatalieK · 04-16-2025, 09:23 AM

Was considering shaving my monthly fees, maybe $15 a month, as every time I offer a deal of "50% off this month for bla bla bla.. " I gain a big influx of new fans, so it´s possible, especially with the Onlyfans, and other platforms, all around a tenner a month, most people don´t mind paying a 10 a month but 25 for the month, seems to have traffic thinking about it

sarettah · 04-16-2025, 03:05 PM

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Originally Posted by NatalieK

Was considering shaving my monthly fees, maybe $15 a month, as every time I offer a deal of "50% off this month for bla bla bla.. " I gain a big influx of new fans, so it´s possible, especially with the Onlyfans, and other platforms, all around a tenner a month, most people don´t mind paying a 10 a month but 25 for the month, seems to have traffic thinking about it

oh, bless your heart.

natkejs · 04-16-2025, 05:21 PM

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Originally Posted by NatalieK

Was considering shaving my monthly fees, maybe $15 a month, as every time I offer a deal of "50% off this month for bla bla bla.. " I gain a big influx of new fans, so it´s possible, especially with the Onlyfans, and other platforms, all around a tenner a month, most people don´t mind paying a 10 a month but 25 for the month, seems to have traffic thinking about it

That was refreshing, I guess there is still some hope for mankind

natkejs · 04-16-2025, 05:41 PM

Interesting observation.

Sending traffic to cams we pretty much accept the idea that if we lose customers it's due to cam models poaching on our traffic.

I have no idea about the prevalence of certain tactics from the programs themselves, but if I were into that kind of manipulation now would probably be a decent moment in time to get some "business" done.

Remember when MPA2 released with the shaving feature right there on the admin home page. A lot of people didn't like it but developers argued that it was such a commonly requested customization that they decided to add it in by default.

Of course, that's a long time ago, the program owners of today are hopefully not as shady.

fuzebox · 04-16-2025, 06:59 PM

At some point in the mid 2000s conversions dropped enough that shaving was counterproductive and programs started reverse shaving to keep affiliates enticed to hit minimum payout.

When you run your own sites and do a lot of daily sales, you do get inexplicable bad days, and are at the mercy of things like processor scrubbing and bank declines.

What's funny is everyone complains about a bad sales day and no one says anything about a record good sales day, despite the odds of both being equally true (poisson distribution theory)

AmeliaG · 04-16-2025, 07:31 PM

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Originally Posted by fuzebox

At some point in the mid 2000s conversions dropped enough that shaving was counterproductive and programs started reverse shaving to keep affiliates enticed to hit minimum payout.

When you run your own sites and do a lot of daily sales, you do get inexplicable bad days, and are at the mercy of things like processor scrubbing and bank declines.

What's funny is everyone complains about a bad sales day and no one says anything about a record good sales day, despite the odds of both being equally true (poisson distribution theory)

There you go being all mathy.

And, yeah, pretty sure I promoted PerfectGonzo extra gard because of early reverse shaving.

fris · 04-16-2025, 09:47 PM

i thought this was about facial hair :p

WiredGuy · 04-16-2025, 10:37 PM

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Originally Posted by fuzebox

What's funny is everyone complains about a bad sales day and no one says anything about a record good sales day, despite the odds of both being equally true (poisson distribution theory)

I'm having stats class flashbacks from this.
WG

OldJeff · 04-17-2025, 09:13 AM

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Originally Posted by fuzebox

At some point in the mid 2000s conversions dropped enough that shaving was counterproductive and programs started reverse shaving to keep affiliates enticed to hit minimum payout.

When you run your own sites and do a lot of daily sales, you do get inexplicable bad days, and are at the mercy of things like processor scrubbing and bank declines.

What's funny is everyone complains about a bad sales day and no one says anything about a record good sales day, despite the odds of both being equally true (poisson distribution theory)

Stop making sense and speaking reality, everyone shaves like hell, it is the only reason affiliates with 100 visitors a day do not have 7 figure bank accounts.

natkejs · 04-17-2025, 10:16 PM

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Originally Posted by fuzebox

At some point in the mid 2000s conversions dropped enough that shaving was counterproductive and programs started reverse shaving to keep affiliates enticed to hit minimum payout.

When you run your own sites and do a lot of daily sales, you do get inexplicable bad days, and are at the mercy of things like processor scrubbing and bank declines.

What's funny is everyone complains about a bad sales day and no one says anything about a record good sales day, despite the odds of both being equally true (poisson distribution theory)

Oops didn't pick up on the trigger for these speculations being a bad day.

Just thinking in general with sites where customers spend endlessly rather than simply paying a recurring membership. There should be a fair amount of ways for a bad actor to skim on top of that without anyone noticing.

Not trying to say I've been a victim, just an interesting thought if it's still a thing and what would be more up to date methods. I could come up with a few but it would seem like unnecessary risk taking at least for the larger platforms.

I think back when new programs were launching constantly, and insane payouts ruled everything there was more incentive to run these kind of schemes since you had a large affiliate base that couldn't care less who ran the program, or how, as long as the payouts were high.

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natkejs Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Nomad Land Posts: 1,601	Interesting observation. Sending traffic to cams we pretty much accept the idea that if we lose customers it's due to cam models poaching on our traffic. I have no idea about the prevalence of certain tactics from the programs themselves, but if I were into that kind of manipulation now would probably be a decent moment in time to get some "business" done. Remember when MPA2 released with the shaving feature right there on the admin home page. A lot of people didn't like it but developers argued that it was such a commonly requested customization that they decided to add it in by default. Of course, that's a long time ago, the program owners of today are hopefully not as shady. __________________

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fuzebox making it rain Industry Role: Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: seattle Posts: 22,004	At some point in the mid 2000s conversions dropped enough that shaving was counterproductive and programs started reverse shaving to keep affiliates enticed to hit minimum payout. When you run your own sites and do a lot of daily sales, you do get inexplicable bad days, and are at the mercy of things like processor scrubbing and bank declines. What's funny is everyone complains about a bad sales day and no one says anything about a record good sales day, despite the odds of both being equally true (poisson distribution theory)