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rowan · 08-08-2003, 09:20 AM

50 exit consoles

Theo · 08-08-2003, 09:21 AM

50

He is coming back

completetosser · 08-08-2003, 09:23 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by rowan

That's where some of the i-f-r-a-m-e'd 404s were being redirected to, when I loaded the URL (from the very first post) repeatedly. Looks like xratedhits has some very shady methods of generating his (your) traffic.....

He's got a shady whois as well - how long has Essex been in France?

Adult Site Traffic · 08-08-2003, 09:23 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by rowan

That's where some of the i-f-r-a-m-e'd 404s were being redirected to, when I loaded the URL (from the very first post) repeatedly. Looks like xratedhits has some very shady methods of generating his (your) traffic.....

Ok. Redirected " TO " is the operative here. Please explain what that has to do with "proxy logs". That's a pretty heavy word in a thread that I'm implicated in. I don't understand what you mean.

And. Are you in my delivery under a different name, or are we talking about buying-traffic.com ?

Thanks,

AST

completetosser · 08-08-2003, 09:24 AM

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Originally posted by rowan
50 exit consoles

500 with the hidden i-f-r-a-m-e-s

Adult Site Traffic · 08-08-2003, 09:27 AM

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Originally posted by completetosser

He's got a shady whois as well - how long has Essex been in France?

My whois is "domains by proxy". Godaddy.

( I've been accused of being a cheater named "Steve Goldman" because of that fact also, LOL )

AST

TheSenator · 08-08-2003, 09:29 AM

Who are the trusted traffic brokers?

rowan · 08-08-2003, 09:30 AM

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Originally posted by Adult Site Traffic

Ok. Redirected " TO " is the operative here. Please explain what that has to do with "proxy logs". That's a pretty heavy word in a thread that I'm implicated in. I don't understand what you mean.

And. Are you in my delivery under a different name, or are we talking about buying-traffic.com ?

Thanks,

AST

Sorry about the misunderstanding. By proxy, I mean my local web proxy/cache - the one I run on my network to allow several computers to share a link. I wasn't intending to suggest that you were delivering proxy traffic. Those URLs were pulled directly from my proxy logs, I was watching them go by as I repeatedly reloaded the URL. I posted them here to show that xratedhits was delivering those hits to you, which then got sent to buyers. Here's how it happens:

1. Surfer loads page
2. Source includes two hidden i-f-r-a-m-e-s which are 404
3. xratedhits 404 handler redirects that i-f-r-a-m-e to adult-site-traffic
4. your site redirects to your buyer, appending ?AST to the deliver URL

I am a buying-traffic affiliate, but that's all... with regards to this issue, I'm purely an observer and/or commentator.

I'd be really interested to see what xratedhits has to say about all of this.

lil2rich4u2 · 08-08-2003, 09:33 AM

ravo and turboface

both have done good by me.

completetosser · 08-08-2003, 09:36 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Adult Site Traffic

My whois is "domains by proxy". Godaddy.

( I've been accused of being a cheater named "Steve Goldman" because of that fact also, LOL )

AST

AST, I was referring to the xratedhits whois. I've never looked at yours

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lil2rich4u2 · 08-08-2003, 09:36 AM

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Originally posted by rowan
I'd be really interested to see what xratedhits has to say about all of this.

he is busy making a new GFY name and redesigning his site with new logo.

dont bother him now.

Adult Site Traffic · 08-08-2003, 09:37 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by rowan
I am a buying-traffic affiliate, but that's all... with regards to this issue, I'm purely an observer and/or commentator.

I'd be really interested to see what xratedhits has to say about all of this.

Ok, I understand. Thanks.

And, so would I. I'm getting hit from all angles right now.

AST 121760557

Adult Site Traffic · 08-08-2003, 09:38 AM

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Originally posted by completetosser

AST, I was referring to the xratedhits whois. I've never looked at yours :

Yea, I know

I just wanted to make it clear

AST

sexushosting · 08-08-2003, 09:38 AM

Hi everybody, I own these hosts and the 404 traffic is provided by me.

Please believe me when I say that the generation of the 404 traffic is not handled by me but by my hosting developer who has much experience in the adult website industry

Please be assured that this thread and more importantly what is happening here to clients horrifies me and I have contacted my developer to demand some answers.

I promise you all that I was NOT aware of this problem and I will respond to this thread with some more details when I have it.

At this stage I apologise for the problems that appear to be taking place here.

Thank you.

lil2rich4u2 · 08-08-2003, 09:40 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by sexushosting
Hi everybody, I own these hosts and the 404 traffic is provided by me.

Please believe me when I say that the generation of the 404 traffic is not handled by me but by my hosting developer who has much experience in the adult website industry

Please be assured that this thread and more importantly what is happening here to clients horrifies me and I have contacted my developer to demand some answers.

I promise you all that I was NOT aware of this problem and I will respond to this thread with some more details when I have it.

At this stage I apologise for the problems that appear to be taking place here.

Thank you.

and the plot thickens ........

rowan · 08-08-2003, 09:43 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by sexushosting
Hi everybody, I own these hosts and the 404 traffic is provided by me.

[...]

I promise you all that I was NOT aware of this problem and I will respond to this thread with some more details when I have it.

What about the fact that your domain seems to be riddled with content written in Korean? If this is sold to general traffic buyers it's just as worthless as a hidden i-f-r-a-m-e

example: http://xxstory.sexushost.com/xxxfree/wuxia/s0937.htm

completetosser · 08-08-2003, 10:01 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by rowan

What about the fact that your domain seems to be riddled with content written in Korean? If this is sold to general traffic buyers it's just as worthless as a hidden i-f-r-a-m-e

example: http://xxstory.sexushost.com/xxxfree/wuxia/s0937.htm

Here's some more quality urls

http://sexybooks.18read.com/main.htm
http://ylsite.sexushost.com/movie.html
http://ylsite.sexushost.com/photo.html
http://ylsite.sexushost.com/flash.html
http://xxstory.sexushost.com/xxxfree/wuxia/s0938.htm http://xxstory.sexushost.com/xxxfree/gudian/s0036.htm

Adult Site Traffic · 08-08-2003, 10:16 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by completetosser

Here's some more quality urls

http://sexybooks.18read.com/main.htm
http://ylsite.sexushost.com/movie.html
http://ylsite.sexushost.com/photo.html
http://ylsite.sexushost.com/flash.html
http://xxstory.sexushost.com/xxxfree/wuxia/s0938.htm http://xxstory.sexushost.com/xxxfree/gudian/s0036.htm

Check your e-mail.

completetosser · 08-08-2003, 10:28 AM

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Originally posted by Adult Site Traffic

Check your e-mail.

Just have done - thanks

I think under the circumstances that was the right thing to do

Adult Site Traffic · 08-08-2003, 10:35 AM

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Originally posted by completetosser

Just have done - thanks I think under the circumstances that was the right thing to do

I do too.
Thanks, and sorry.

Pornkings · 08-08-2003, 10:38 AM

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Originally posted by rowan
Did a few successive reloads and watched the status bar...

chubby.com
tgpchicks.com
dutchteenamateurs.com
join4free.com
camfantasy.com
revshareamateurs.com
turboface.com
trannysurprise.com

All these sites are being loaded without ever being seen.

chubby.com is us.

we arn't buying 404 traffic so I bet they need to show hits to these sponsors to run fraud cards can someone post the link for chubby

Adult Site Traffic · 08-08-2003, 10:42 AM

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Originally posted by Pornkings

chubby.com is us.

we arn't buying 404 traffic so I bet they need to show hits to these sponsors to run fraud cards can someone post the link for chubby

One thing you're not understanding.

Rowan is an affiliate sending to a different program. His logs have nothing to do with this.

If the url's weren't in the i-f-rames and tagged /&AST it has nothing to do with this problem whatsoever.

So, until you know the facts, whether you're BigHugeSite.com or not, please control yourself. I'm taking damage here over something I have no knowledge of or control over. Posts like this and Rowan's logs aren't helping.

AST

sexushosting · 08-08-2003, 11:05 AM

Following on from the comments by Adult Site Traffic -

Before we constantly bash away at this, can you please be patient until I find out what the hell is going on before posting URL`s galore here.

I appreciate that this is a serious matter but just please bear with me.

Thank you.

rowan · 08-08-2003, 11:11 AM

AST, I'll repeat again... this thread has nothing to do with my buying-traffic.com affiliate account. For all intents and purposes we can consider that closed; I haven't sent any traffic to that for a couple of weeks.

The URLs with "?AST" appended that I have pasted into this thread were generated solely from loading http://xxstory.sexushost.com/xxxfree/wuxia/s0938.htm through a standard Windows browser. I simply used my local proxy logs (on my LAN - nothing to do with your site, or any traffic brokering) to see the exact URLs that were 302'd inside the invisible i-f-r-a-m-e.

Here's an example.

http://www.sexushost.com/cgi-bin/404
redirects to
http://adult-site-traffic.com/traffic/out.cgi?c=37
which redirects to
http://chubby.com/defaultD.php?id=80...&url=nopop&AST

If you load http://www.sexushost.com/cgi-bin/404 a few times then you'll be directed to various URLs, presumably all paying buyers... nothing unusual there. However, remember that the 404 handler is loaded within an invisible i-f-r-a-m-e, so the surfer never sees the final content... unless the HTML contains frame breaking code.

I wasn't trying to throw any blame at you in particular, since it's obvious that regardless of whether xratedhits is an affiliate or wholesale seller, he is stiffing you. I only posted those URLs to prove that this traffic *is* associated with AST. It's unfortunate that his garbage has filtered out to paying buyers...

rastakit · 08-08-2003, 11:23 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by rowan

That's where some of the i-f-r-a-m-e'd 404s were being redirected to, when I loaded the URL (from the very first post) repeatedly. Looks like xratedhits has some very shady methods of generating his (your) traffic.....

Rowan--are you saying those url's you list (who bought traffic) are not receiving it but just getting hit counts?

Adult Site Traffic · 08-08-2003, 11:30 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by rowan
AST, I'll repeat again... this thread has nothing to do with my buying-traffic.com affiliate account.

Ok then. That's fine. I believe you.

I have 2 questions.

How did you get there in the first place, to start this thread?

And, how come you didn't ICQ me like I asked? 121760557

rastakit · 08-08-2003, 11:33 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Pornkings

chubby.com is us.

we arn't buying 404 traffic so I bet they need to show hits to these sponsors to run fraud cards can someone post the link for chubby

Roger,
We bought and sent this traffic to you...AST...you know my ICQ...we need to chat...

Edge

Adult Site Traffic · 08-08-2003, 11:38 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by rastakit

Roger,
We bought and sent this traffic to you...AST...you know my ICQ...we need to chat...

Edge

Hit me at your convienience Edge.

Fletch XXX · 08-08-2003, 11:39 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by lil2rich4u2

he is busy making a new GFY name and redesigning his site with new logo.

dont bother him now.

A crook like you should be familiar with changing screen names to hide your theft until you get busted more than once under different names eh Stashi?

hahah

rastakit · 08-08-2003, 11:42 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Adult Site Traffic

Hit me at your convienience Edge.

Just sent you a message...is your ICQ on?

08-08-2003, 09:33 AM	#59
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08-08-2003, 09:20 AM	#51
rowan Too lazy to set a custom title Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Australia Posts: 17,393	50 exit consoles

08-08-2003, 09:21 AM	#52
Theo HAL 9000 Industry Role: Join Date: May 2001 Posts: 34,515	50 He is coming back

08-08-2003, 09:29 AM	#57
TheSenator Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: NJ Posts: 13,337	Who are the trusted traffic brokers?

08-08-2003, 09:38 AM	#64
sexushosting Registered User Join Date: Aug 2003 Posts: 3	Hi everybody, I own these hosts and the 404 traffic is provided by me. Please believe me when I say that the generation of the 404 traffic is not handled by me but by my hosting developer who has much experience in the adult website industry Please be assured that this thread and more importantly what is happening here to clients horrifies me and I have contacted my developer to demand some answers. I promise you all that I was NOT aware of this problem and I will respond to this thread with some more details when I have it. At this stage I apologise for the problems that appear to be taking place here. Thank you.

08-08-2003, 11:05 AM	#73
sexushosting Registered User Join Date: Aug 2003 Posts: 3	Following on from the comments by Adult Site Traffic - Before we constantly bash away at this, can you please be patient until I find out what the hell is going on before posting URL`s galore here. I appreciate that this is a serious matter but just please bear with me. Thank you.

08-08-2003, 11:11 AM	#74
rowan Too lazy to set a custom title Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Australia Posts: 17,393	AST, I'll repeat again... this thread has nothing to do with my buying-traffic.com affiliate account. For all intents and purposes we can consider that closed; I haven't sent any traffic to that for a couple of weeks. The URLs with "?AST" appended that I have pasted into this thread were generated solely from loading http://xxstory.sexushost.com/xxxfree/wuxia/s0938.htm through a standard Windows browser. I simply used my local proxy logs (on my LAN - nothing to do with your site, or any traffic brokering) to see the exact URLs that were 302'd inside the invisible i-f-r-a-m-e. Here's an example. http://www.sexushost.com/cgi-bin/404 redirects to http://adult-site-traffic.com/traffic/out.cgi?c=37 which redirects to http://chubby.com/defaultD.php?id=80...&url=nopop&AST If you load http://www.sexushost.com/cgi-bin/404 a few times then you'll be directed to various URLs, presumably all paying buyers... nothing unusual there. However, remember that the 404 handler is loaded within an invisible i-f-r-a-m-e, so the surfer never sees the final content... unless the HTML contains frame breaking code. I wasn't trying to throw any blame at you in particular, since it's obvious that regardless of whether xratedhits is an affiliate or wholesale seller, he is stiffing you. I only posted those URLs to prove that this traffic is associated with AST. It's unfortunate that his garbage has filtered out to paying buyers...