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Old 10-21-2003, 03:25 PM   #1
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content people, spam me with....

spam me with content producers who allow us to use the content for hosted galleries, tours, and banners.
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Before the content providers get here, I'd just like to know why so many don't allow use on hosted galleries. It's just like an individual webmaster making a gallery and submitting it to the TGP's, but without the submitting part, right? That always confused me. I can understand not wanting it in leased galleries, but I just can't understand why hosted galleries are different from TGP galleries and submitting them myself. They'll still be listed on the TGP's. *boggle*

Maybe one of the content providers can explain
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A content provider cannot disallow the use of the legally licensed content on hosted galleries as long as you host them on the domains you licensed the images for.
What you cannot do is give content to affiliates so that they use it to make their own galleries.
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Before the content providers get here, I'd just like to know why so many don't allow use on hosted galleries. It's just like an individual webmaster making a gallery and submitting it to the TGP's, but without the submitting part, right? That always confused me. I can understand not wanting it in leased galleries, but I just can't understand why hosted galleries are different from TGP galleries and submitting them myself. They'll still be listed on the TGP's. *boggle*

Maybe one of the content providers can explain
As a content provider who doesn't allow hosted gallerys generally, I'd like to share my insight and why I feel this. Everyone is different and everyone has different reasons.

When a TGP owner or reviewer is looking over galleries, they list them based on if the content is fresh or oversatureted/overused/water. If said content is used in hosted galleries, there's a higher chance that the webmaster is goign to remember the content set if they've recently been checking hosted galleries and are going to consider it stale even if they never used it or if no other TGP has ever used the hosted gallery. It's still going to be fresh in their mind that they've seen this content. My
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A content provider cannot disallow the use of the legally licensed content on hosted galleries as long as you host them on the domains you licensed the images for.
What you cannot do is give content to affiliates so that they use it to make their own galleries.
This is untrue... I'm sorry, they can disallow anything they like in their license terms.
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Not only that, but use of content for hosted galleries essentially lowers the value of the content for anyone who purchases it, as it makes it much more likely that surfers have already seen it. Would you want to pay full price for a content set you know was already on every single tgp out there? "Nuff said/
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A content provider cannot disallow the use of the legally licensed content on hosted galleries as long as you host them on the domains you licensed the images for.
What you cannot do is give content to affiliates so that they use it to make their own galleries.

WRONG.

As I content provider...I CAN do whatever I like. My attorney writes the licenses, not yours.
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I see your point and I understand.

But I have recently started tol check the license carefully to be sure hosted galleries are allowed. If not, I don't buy. I want all my licenses to allow the same things so that I don't accidentally use something for the wrong thing someday. I can't check every single license every single time I want to use a set. I work with sometimes 50 sets a day and checking all those licenses would take about a couple of hours! LOL
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Not only that, but use of content for hosted galleries essentially lowers the value of the content for anyone who purchases it, as it makes it much more likely that surfers have already seen it. Would you want to pay full price for a content set you know was already on every single tgp out there? "Nuff said/

Exactly.
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I need the content providers that aloow it, all you other ones keep your opinions to yourself!
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I need the content providers that aloow it, all you other ones keep your opinions to yourself!

I can express my opinions as I see fit and you can GoFuckYourself if you don't like it.

You might want to take note...I NEVER said that I do not allow hosted galleries.

For the record....I don't want your business anyway.
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They're just answering my question. I brought it up. Sorry I used your thread to ask, it just seemed like a good opportunity.
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They're just answering my question. I brought it up. Sorry I used your thread to ask, it just seemed like a good opportunity.
Nothing wrong with what you did. triumph should thank you and EVERYBODY who replied to this thread just for keeping it at the top of the page. Without our replies, this thread would be on page 2 and nobody would have the chance to reply to it with a valid offer.

The ingrateful assholes around this place simply amaze me.
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I can express my opinions as I see fit and you can GoFuckYourself if you don't like it.

You might want to take note...I NEVER said that I do not allow hosted galleries.

For the record....I don't want your business anyway.
Now why would you say something like that, for the project that I am working on I need content providers who allow it. Thats all I wanted to find out.

Your comment about not wanting my business, just lets me know what kind of business man you are.
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tootie They're just answering my question. I brought it up. Sorry I used your thread to ask, it just seemed like a good opportunity.
You dont have to be sorry, actually your response brought out some true colors from some of these folks which helps me realise who I should do business with.

Thanks tootie
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triumph, you can find some providers that will allow it. Yet just save yourself the headache and buy some exclusive stuff, if you do that nearly all providers will welcome ya with open arms.
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Now why would you say something like that, for the project that I am working on I need content providers who allow it. Thats all I wanted to find out.

Your comment about not wanting my business, just lets me know what kind of business man you are.
You come on GFY and try to tell people basically to keep their mouths shut unless they have what you want and then you have the balls to insult my business practices?

Fuck off ya tosser.
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triumph, you can find some providers that will allow it. Yet just save yourself the headache and buy some exclusive stuff, if you do that nearly all providers will welcome ya with open arms.
triumph is obviously a cheap bastard who does not know shit about buying content...And knows even less about posting on GFY.
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Dude put an end to it, how old are you by the way?
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Dude put an end to it, how old are you by the way?
Fuck you. Apologise to me and I will think about ending it. Until then, YOU just became the focus of my attention.

Enjoy the limelite and your 15 minutes.

BTW...You have been here for about 10 months...Perhaps it's time to learn how to use the quote feature correctly.
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I am sorry I dont know how to use the quote feature?

I waste most of my time working and making money.
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Im not a conten provider exactly, but maybe I can help you. I run my own website of myself and I have tons of content. Id let you use some for pics, banners, tour pages, etc. if your interested. My website is in my sig. I am in the process of redoing it though. Manye people suggested that I make it appear more amateur.

Let me know if you are interested.
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I think Triumph and AaronM are getting off on the wrong foot. Aarron meet Triumph, Triumph - Aarron

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My appologies for all the typo's..its been a long day.
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I am sorry I dont know how to use the quote feature?

I waste most of my time working and making money.
You're an idiot.

Take some of your money and buy some lessons on reality. Also stop being a cheap fuck and get some exclusive content rather than degrading the value of other people's stuff.
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My appologies for all the typo's..its been a long day.
2257 info fixed yet?
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Aaron, can you please teach me how to get exclusive content?

maybe you were right I do need to learn on how to aquire content.
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Aaron, can you please teach me how to get exclusive content?

maybe you were right I do need to learn on how to aquire content.
If this thread is any indication of your abilities then I would say you are right.
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Hey FreeAdult,
Yes its fixed. How's this www.heatherhamptons.com/legal.html

Is that ok?
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Speaking of exclusive content...

Is it really worth it to buy exclusive content if you're just using it for galleries and free sites? I mean, most people charge at least $300 to $500 per set for exclusive stuff and some charge alot more. Can one expect to make a profit from that or is exclusive really only a valid option for paysite owners?

(I hope I don't start another mini-war by asking this, hehe.)
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Yes its fixed. How's this www.heatherhamptons.com/legal.html

Is that ok?
Not according to Federal Law.
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Yes its fixed. How's this www.heatherhamptons.com/legal.html

Is that ok?
ummmm dunno who ya getting your advice from but 1 correct out of 3 is still not compliant.
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Speaking of exclusive content...

Is it really worth it to buy exclusive content if you're just using it for galleries and free sites? I mean, most people charge at least $300 to $500 per set for exclusive stuff and some charge alot more. Can one expect to make a profit from that or is exclusive really only a valid option for paysite owners?

(I hope I don't start another mini-war by asking this, hehe.)
That's a great question actually.

Paysite owners of course will benefit more from exclusive content but everyday webmasters can too. If the surfer likes the content they may be more apt to click through because he has not seen the same content many times in the past.

I know several people who are big in the TGP's and they either make deals to get the content before it is released to the rest of the affiliates or they buy exclusive.
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ummmm dunno who ya getting your advice from but 1 correct out of 3 is still not compliant.
Exactly.
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Someone wrote that for me. Could you guys help me and tell me what needs to be there? Im clueless. I never had to do this before.
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Speaking of exclusive content...

Is it really worth it to buy exclusive content if you're just using it for galleries and free sites? I mean, most people charge at least $300 to $500 per set for exclusive stuff and some charge alot more. Can one expect to make a profit from that or is exclusive really only a valid option for paysite owners?

(I hope I don't start another mini-war by asking this, hehe.)
Why not, first you will not always pay 300.00 per set. You can find it for less if you shop around.

Second you can do what you want with it and only you have it. So you never have a problem getting listed, it being saturated, ect.

Third, it is shot to your spec so you can do better stuff.

Fourth you could in theory piggyback on a shoot for a set, or go into halves with someone ect to lower costs.

Downside is if your promoting someone you may be misleading the buyers.
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Someone wrote that for me. Could you guys help me and tell me what needs to be there? Im clueless. I never had to do this before.

Heather...I am sick of helping all the retards on these boards. You seem serious enogh though so if you like, I will work with you on ICQ.
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Someone wrote that for me. Could you guys help me and tell me what needs to be there? Im clueless. I never had to do this before.
The one in the middle is correct.
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Heather...I am sick of helping all the retards on these boards. You seem serious enogh though so if you like, I will work with you on ICQ.

NOOOO!!! I brought it up first
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Thanks for the feedback Aaron.

I just ordered my first exclusive set earlier today (kinda excited about it, hehe), but it's for a paysite. I've just always wanted to know if it was worth it to buy for anything other than paysite use.

I guess it depends on how much you pay for it and how good the content is. If you pay alot of money for a boring set or use it for the wrong niche, I'd imagine there's no saving you. Hehe.
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Downside is if your promoting someone you may be misleading the buyers.
The upside is that the smart paysite owners will notice this and then contact the content provider and start buying exclusive sets as well.

Trust me...It happens more than you might think.

Unless the Paysite owner is a cheap bastard....Right triumph?
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Thanks Aaron, thanks FreeAdult. Yes I am very serious. Im new to this whole legal thing. I had no idea until I joined GFY. I will work on getting this corrected asap!
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Thanks for the feedback Aaron.

I just ordered my first exclusive set earlier today (kinda excited about it, hehe), but it's for a paysite. I've just always wanted to know if it was worth it to buy for anything other than paysite use.

I guess it depends on how much you pay for it and how good the content is. If you pay alot of money for a boring set or use it for the wrong niche, I'd imagine there's no saving you. Hehe.
Glad to be of assistance.


If you are smart enough to buy exclusive then one would hope that you are smart enough to know where and when to use it.
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Yes its fixed. How's this www.heatherhamptons.com/legal.html

Is that ok?
Sorry but your 2257 information is absolutely non-compliant. You need to post the name of the Custodian of records.. a PHYSICAL address where the records are kept. It needs to be an address where someone is available during normal weekday hours. P.O. Boxes etc DO NOT comply. The custodian of records must be DIRECTLY associated with your company. Not a lawyer, or someone who has nothing to do but hold records... There are other issues but those are some of the biggies.... I suggest you get yourself compliant, or you are putting yourself and anyone who purchases your content at serious legal risk.
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The upside is that the smart paysite owners will notice this and then contact the content provider and start buying exclusive sets as well.

Trust me...It happens more than you might think.

Unless the Paysite owner is a cheap bastard....Right triumph?
Yup, or if your tricky you could license the set to the paysite and lower you costs some more (pending your exclusive agreement).
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And regarding hosted galleries... even some content providers that DO NOT allow the content to be used for hosted galleries will allow you to pay extra as a sort of compensation fee, and then allow the content set for use. Generally that set is pulled from the site thereafter. There's no harm in actually ASKING those who don't have hosted galleries allowable in their standard license if they can make such a deal.
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Thanks Aaron, thanks FreeAdult. Yes I am very serious. Im new to this whole legal thing. I had no idea until I joined GFY. I will work on getting this corrected asap!
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ok well let me ask you this...what if the people holding records do not want their address listed on the internet for all to view?
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