ACACIA LEAK - Who Is It Really? - GoFuckYourself.com

chri$tian · 10-24-2003, 03:57 PM

I have been reading all these posts and I have seen Dozens of people saying,

"I Know for 100% certainty that: (pick one from below)

Hustler
Vivid
BabeNet
CE
AVN
Matrix

gave out my info"....

Some are even the same people with 2 different 100% comfirmations about 2 different companies....

What's up with this? Seems like a bunch of well respected companies are getting slammed but everyone is saying that there 100% sure it ANY one of the 6.

I'm all for finding out who? (could be 2 of them, 1 of them, 5 of them or none) but lets not jump the gun here... That's how reputations get tarnished.

Let put together all the info from all all the people that say, "there certain it's ????????" and see what it adds up to. I pretty sure all of us can add up numbers (we all check stats every day, 10 times)

Just my 2cents...

P.S. Got my letters (3 last month, 2 this week) and I can't attribute them to anyone company, all could have come from a whois.

Theo · 10-24-2003, 04:00 PM

you got 5 letters? wow

Ross · 10-24-2003, 04:01 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Soul_Rebel
you got 5 letters? wow

Yep they're after his ass.

GFED · 10-24-2003, 04:01 PM

FUCK ANYONE THAT SELLS OUT! FUCK THEM ALL!

chri$tian · 10-24-2003, 04:03 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Soul_Rebel
you got 5 letters? wow

Yup, some personal sites, some business sites and some porn star and video company client sites we run.

One letter did'nt even have a domain in it..... HUMMMMMMMM???

chri$tian · 10-24-2003, 04:59 PM

JSA Matt · 10-24-2003, 05:06 PM

Quote:

[000] Hustler
[000] Vivid
[000] BabeNet
[000] CE
[000] AVN
[001] Matrix

Next.

scorpy · 10-24-2003, 05:43 PM

Well as for me, that's simple:
I moved to a new house 2 weeks ago.. i didn't update my new address to anything... not even my domain names whois information... just didn't have time yet... last week though, i updated my address at Matrix Content, because i have a partnership program with them and they have to send me a check so the reason i updated my address.... and now i'm getting an Acacia letter.. where else could they fucking find my actual address other than Matrix Content? Nobody else has my address period!
FUCK THEM and they can keep their fucking check and maybe buy some lube for their Acacia ass fucking!

HS-Trixxxia · 10-24-2003, 05:54 PM

Considering their pleas for sales every 2nd week to buy their content, I don't think that was a smart move on their part.

I know their content is amazing, but giving information on people that 1) give you business 2) bring you business through sales
it's not a good move on anyones' part.

I wonder what the courts would say if Visa gave out the information of their credit card holders to someone who 'says' they own the patent on the 'swiping of the card' technology (extreme example but again just an example) there would be privacy issues they'd have to deal with.

Nowhere have I read that they could give my business or personal information to a third party other than the police/fbi/irs and what not. For someone else, there are serious privacy issues they'll have to deal with.

If they've changed their TOS in the last few days, they have to have advised us prior to having given the info, and if we decided we wanted to close our accounts with them - they'd better not have forwarded that info.

Anyone with the balls & a good lawyer can cause them enough heat - the ones that gave that info 'to sweeten their deal' & ACACIA for using SPAM tactics to get people to settle - so they can have enough ammunition to try getting the bigger guys.

kenny · 10-24-2003, 05:57 PM

I have only dealt with two of those places and I got 1 letter today. I laughed at the letter

oracle · 10-24-2003, 06:00 PM

well like i said on AWI

Quote:

Originally posted by Oracle
yup matrix did it. i use a different address for every thing i sign up for. i dont live in a apt but when i sign up for sponsors i add on apt numbers like 200 westland apt. 273 it will still come to my house but have a apt listed. i figured it would be a clever way to see if anyone was selling my info. and bam i get a letter from acacia coming from the apt number i only used with matrix...

i only used my matrix account to buy content for clients. im a webdesigner i don't even own one porn site. i called them today they wouldn't even answer my call. hehe im calling my lawyer monday

Zayne E. · 10-24-2003, 06:01 PM

I also find it curious that a high-profile company that takes extremely sensitive personal information on their visitors/users (credit card, mailing address, etc.) doesn't have a posted privacy policy

scorpy · 10-24-2003, 06:03 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by oracle
well like i said on AWI

i only used my matrix account to buy content for clients. im a webdesigner i don't even own one porn site. i called them today they wouldn't even answer my call. hehe im calling my lawyer monday

Same here... i 'm also a webdesigner who was only buying content for clients... not even videos, just pictures... and i don't even have my own paysites... no wonder why nobody at Matrix ever replied to me for now 2 months!!!!

oracle · 10-24-2003, 06:09 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by scorpy

Same here... i 'm also a webdesigner who was only buying content for clients... not even videos, just pictures... and i don't even have my own paysites... no wonder why nobody at Matrix ever replied to me for now 2 months!!!!

i honestly wasnt beliving matrix did it untill i got the mail today. they in the shit hole now. i'm all in for a full support black out of matrix content im never buying anything from them again and making sure every designer/webmaster i personally know never buy from them again either.

Honeyslut · 10-24-2003, 07:04 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Trixxxia
Considering their pleas for sales every 2nd week to buy their content, I don't think that was a smart move on their part.

I know their content is amazing, but giving information on people that 1) give you business 2) bring you business through sales
it's not a good move on anyones' part.

I wonder what the courts would say if Visa gave out the information of their credit card holders to someone who 'says' they own the patent on the 'swiping of the card' technology (extreme example but again just an example) there would be privacy issues they'd have to deal with.

Nowhere have I read that they could give my business or personal information to a third party other than the police/fbi/irs and what not. For someone else, there are serious privacy issues they'll have to deal with.

If they've changed their TOS in the last few days, they have to have advised us prior to having given the info, and if we decided we wanted to close our accounts with them - they'd better not have forwarded that info.

Anyone with the balls & a good lawyer can cause them enough heat - the ones that gave that info 'to sweeten their deal' & ACACIA for using SPAM tactics to get people to settle - so they can have enough ammunition to try getting the bigger guys.

From what I have been reading, it is the little guys that they are trying to get with the scare tactic and the BIG guys are used to pull us in with sweet deals of paying practually nothing compared to what Acacia really wants .

If you are out to make money, you go after the BIG fish for the big amounts not the little guy of 10k to 50k a year

10-24-2003, 03:57 PM	#1
chri$tian Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Charleston, SC Posts: 2,468	ACACIA LEAK - Who Is It Really? I have been reading all these posts and I have seen Dozens of people saying, "I Know for 100% certainty that: (pick one from below) Hustler Vivid BabeNet CE AVN Matrix gave out my info".... Some are even the same people with 2 different 100% comfirmations about 2 different companies.... What's up with this? Seems like a bunch of well respected companies are getting slammed but everyone is saying that there 100% sure it ANY one of the 6. I'm all for finding out who? (could be 2 of them, 1 of them, 5 of them or none) but lets not jump the gun here... That's how reputations get tarnished. Let put together all the info from all all the people that say, "there certain it's ????????" and see what it adds up to. I pretty sure all of us can add up numbers (we all check stats every day, 10 times) Just my 2cents... P.S. Got my letters (3 last month, 2 this week) and I can't attribute them to anyone company, all could have come from a whois. __________________ http://www.3dsex.com

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chri$tian Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Charleston, SC Posts: 2,468	bump __________________ http://www.3dsex.com

10-24-2003, 05:43 PM	#8
scorpy Confirmed User Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Dallas, TX Posts: 457	Well as for me, that's simple: I moved to a new house 2 weeks ago.. i didn't update my new address to anything... not even my domain names whois information... just didn't have time yet... last week though, i updated my address at Matrix Content, because i have a partnership program with them and they have to send me a check so the reason i updated my address.... and now i'm getting an Acacia letter.. where else could they fucking find my actual address other than Matrix Content? Nobody else has my address period! FUCK THEM and they can keep their fucking check and maybe buy some lube for their Acacia ass fucking! Last edited by scorpy; 10-24-2003 at 05:46 PM..

10-24-2003, 05:57 PM	#10
kenny Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Mar 2002 Posts: 7,245	I have only dealt with two of those places and I got 1 letter today. I laughed at the letter __________________ 7

10-24-2003, 04:00 PM	#2
Theo HAL 9000 Industry Role: Join Date: May 2001 Posts: 34,515	you got 5 letters? wow

10-24-2003, 05:54 PM	#9
HS-Trixxxia Confirmed User Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Montreal Canada Posts: 2,946	Considering their pleas for sales every 2nd week to buy their content, I don't think that was a smart move on their part. I know their content is amazing, but giving information on people that 1) give you business 2) bring you business through sales it's not a good move on anyones' part. I wonder what the courts would say if Visa gave out the information of their credit card holders to someone who 'says' they own the patent on the 'swiping of the card' technology (extreme example but again just an example) there would be privacy issues they'd have to deal with. Nowhere have I read that they could give my business or personal information to a third party other than the police/fbi/irs and what not. For someone else, there are serious privacy issues they'll have to deal with. If they've changed their TOS in the last few days, they have to have advised us prior to having given the info, and if we decided we wanted to close our accounts with them - they'd better not have forwarded that info. Anyone with the balls & a good lawyer can cause them enough heat - the ones that gave that info 'to sweeten their deal' & ACACIA for using SPAM tactics to get people to settle - so they can have enough ammunition to try getting the bigger guys.

10-24-2003, 06:01 PM	#12
Zayne E. Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Apr 2002 Posts: 1,383	I also find it curious that a high-profile company that takes extremely sensitive personal information on their visitors/users (credit card, mailing address, etc.) doesn't have a posted privacy policy