Agreement Reached: PlayboyCash webmasters are not liable to Acacia for patents.

[Lensman]

Playboy Enterprises has reached an agreement with Acacia to exempt it from any patent claims in the future. Additionally, Playboy is requiring Acacia to exempt all of its affiliates from patent claims, as long as it directly related to the promotion of Playboy products. The affiliate provision was a major sticking point for Playboy, and considerably delayed the agreement.

Webmaster programs that have previously reached an agreement with Acacia include TopBucks, TrafficCashGold, PlatinumBucks, CECash, FlyntDigital, and more.

[4Pics]

does this mean adult.com has also signed?

[Chris]

Hu,mmm

this is gonna get dirty

isnt this what epic cash did and everyone trashed epic cash?

[polish_aristocrat]

Originally posted by 4Pics
does this mean adult.com has also signed?

if Lensman says they reached agreement, than it doesn't mean they had been drinking vodka

[xxxdesign-net]

Originally posted by 4Pics
does this mean adult.com has also signed?

[xdcdave]

Oh my.

[detoxed]

uh oh

[- Jesus Christ -]

I don't agree with it... but at this point it does not bother me as much.... Its like stuffing money in the carcass of a dead horse and saying you made an agreement that the horse will not attack us.

[eroswebmaster]

damn there you go.

[Lensman]

Originally posted by 4Pics
does this mean adult.com has also signed?

Adult.com has not settled with Acacia, and has filed a countersuit against the company. When Acacia agrees to drop their lawsuit, Adult.com will make sure its webmasters are covered as well.

[benc]

I understand it, but kind of a spin.

Its too bad how that whole Acacia thing played out. It will eventually get defeated, but has turned into a pain in the butt.

[spamofon]

own3d?

[4Pics]

Originally posted by Lensman


Adult.com has not settled with Acacia, and has filed a countersuit against the company. When Acacia agrees to drop their lawsuit, Adult.com will make sure its webmasters are covered as well.

Thanks! I've never seen an official we haven't settled.

[- Jesus Christ -]

Well then I retract my previous comment.... But how can you have reached an agreement with a company when you still still have pending lawsuits?

Or have they agreed to certain terms if you drop your countersuit?

[FightThisPatent]

Most webmasters run multiple affiliate links on their sites. So the sponsors that licensed with Acacia, would make the affiliate's percentage of revenue "exempt" from their 'contributory infringement' approach to webmasters.

Acacia is using the tactic (as well as those that have settled with them), that using ONLY sponsors that licensed the patent "protects" you from Acacia.

At this point, Acacia has not filed anymore lawsuits in the adult biz, and has their hands full with 11+ defendants.



Fight the Protection Insurance!

[Juicy D. Links]

NIce

Can we add some more emoticons now to GFY?

[Lensman]

Originally posted by juicylinks
NIce

Can we add some more emoticons now to GFY?

I'm putting Tala on the case

[FightThisPatent]

Originally posted by Lensman


Adult.com has not settled with Acacia, and has filed a countersuit against the company. When Acacia agrees to drop their lawsuit, Adult.com will make sure its webmasters are covered as well.

The current defendants filed countersuits against Acacia too.

Maybe Acacia will drop their lawsuit against them as well.






Fight the Zoots!

[polish_aristocrat]

Originally posted by juicylinks
NIce

Can we add some more emoticons now to GFY?

[Juicy D. Links]

Originally posted by Lensman


I'm putting Tala on the case

[Digipimp]

I do believe Playboy Cash isn't totally owned by Lensman but a partnership with Playboy so it would seem that Playboy Cash being under the settlement of Playboy is not his decision as Adult.com has not settled. But that's just my guess.

[hoe_vender]

what is weird

[chemicaleyes]

Originally posted by hoe_vender
what is weird

what are you talking about?

[Doctor Dre]

hrmm ... that looks very good to me but I'm not 100 % sure what it means . Are you playing acacia or not ?

interesting news.

[Strife]

Playboy signed with Acacia???

[FightThisPatent]

Originally posted by Strife
Playboy signed with Acacia???

http://www.FightThePatent.com/v2/Playboy.html


GFY thread: http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showth...hreadid=252667



Fight the Linking!

[Tofu]

Originally posted by Lensman


I'm putting Tala on the case

Tell that cutie to give me a call at the office.

[Paul Markham]

It just means Acacia will earn more money to fuck the rest of us with and the sheep will continue to promote the wolf.

[sexsup]

Good to hear that there is an agreement now.

[taboo_dude]

Just what Acacia needs, another brand name to add to their list.

[SetTheWorldonFire]

good news

[Axeman]

Originally posted by Lensman


Adult.com has not settled with Acacia, and has filed a countersuit against the company. When Acacia agrees to drop their lawsuit, Adult.com will make sure its webmasters are covered as well.

Glad to hear that Lensman.

Kinda sad to hear Playboy settled though.

Dont let these assholes win.

Brent

[Sosa]

damn

[The Sex Pusher]

Interesting..

I'm wondering how acacia decided to agree not to pursue patents on adult.com affiliates without getting something in return ??

I think were missing a few facts here...

[SomeCreep]

Originally posted by Lensman


Adult.com has not settled with Acacia, and has filed a countersuit against the company. When Acacia agrees to drop their lawsuit, Adult.com will make sure its webmasters are covered as well.

interesting, please keep us updated

[baddog]

Originally posted by - Jesus Christ -
Well then I retract my previous comment.... But how can you have reached an agreement with a company when you still still have pending lawsuits?

Or have they agreed to certain terms if you drop your countersuit?

I don't think adult.com is owned by Playboy Enterprises . . . yet

[SleazyDream]

don't give lens an OUNCE of shit here for this, it's not hard to see that the decision for playboy settling wasn't HIS call.

this about it, if it was lens' final decision then adult.com would have settled too. they didn't.

in a way lens is an affiliate of playboy like most of us are affiliates of adult.com

[CDSmith]

Originally posted by Lensman
Adult.com has not settled with Acacia, and has filed a countersuit against the company. When Acacia agrees to drop their lawsuit, Adult.com will make sure its webmasters are covered as well.

Fight em Lens. Extortionists need to be handled roughly.

[Mr.Fiction]

Acacia desperately needed another press release because their stock price is going nowhere. The Acacia pumpers have been promising $10 a share for months, if not years.

Wait until the financials are released, Playboy (like Hustler) probably pays them next to nothing, but Acacia gets to use the brand name.

This seems to have been the strategy from the start. Try to get money from the little guys while giving it away to the big guys so they can keep the press releases coming and keep the stock price from tanking.

You can make a graph showing the Acacia stock price and the bullshit press releases. None of it has to do with income or the validity of the patent, it's all to do with how they manipulate gullible stock buyers.

I also would not be surprised to see Acacia send out another round of notices to small webmasters using the Playboy logo to try to convince people to settle, like they did with Hustler.

If it turns out that the Playboy deal really is as ridiculous as some have suggested it is, it proves that Acacia's plan is to fight the little guys, but settle with sweetheart deals for the big guys. What does that tell you about how strong Acacia really thinks their patent is if they aren't willing to fight big companies?

[boldy]

I like cookies

[HarlotCash Dyker]

Originally posted by Mr.Fiction
Acacia desperately needed another press release because their stock price is going nowhere. The Acacia pumpers have been promising $10 a share for months, if not years.

Wait until the financials are released, Playboy (like Hustler) probably pays them next to nothing, but Acacia gets to use the brand name.

This seems to have been the strategy from the start. Try to get money from the little guys while giving it away to the big guys so they can keep the press releases coming and keep the stock price from tanking.

You can make a graph showing the Acacia stock price and the bullshit press releases. None of it has to do with income or the validity of the patent, it's all to do with how they manipulate gullible stock buyers.

I also would not be surprised to see Acacia send out another round of notices to small webmasters using the Playboy logo to try to convince people to settle, like they did with Hustler.

If it turns out that the Playboy deal really is as ridiculous as some have suggested it is, it proves that Acacia's plan is to fight the little guys, but settle with sweetheart deals for the big guys. What does that tell you about how strong Acacia really thinks their patent is if they aren't willing to fight big companies?

Time to change your nic to Mr Fact - My thoughts all along

Originally posted by SleazyDream
don't give lens an OUNCE of shit here for this, it's not hard to see that the decision for playboy settling wasn't HIS call.

this about it, if it was lens' final decision then adult.com would have settled too. they didn't.

in a way lens is an affiliate of playboy like most of us are affiliates of adult.com

You took the words right out of my mouth. I'm hoping adult.com doesn't go down without a fight.

[TheSenator]

Do webmasters get a written agreement from PlayBoy and Acaciaie that they will not get sued?

Without any legal letter sent to an affiliate webmaster about not being liable for broadcasting video or whatever the patent states...the webmaster is not legally covered.


If a webmaster promoting PlayBoy gets sued or any legal hassel from either party this thread can be submitted in court.


I would only trust something written on a piece a paper with a signature and a laywer scan. I personally feel that anybody promoting sponsors who agreed with Acraaciia should get a written agreement that they will not get sued or sold out.

[FightThisPatent]

Originally posted by TheSenator
Do webmasters get a written agreement from PlayBoy and Acaciaie that they will not get sued?

Acacia could not come after an affiliate to license their patent based on revenue derived from Playboycash. This would a "double dipping" situation that they can't do.

But, since most affiliate webmasters use more than one program, they could target you for the revenue you gained by using unlicensed programs and you would have to be able to separate out the revenue streams.

I think that Acacia has seen how futile it is to target the affiliate webmaster, and instead, now focus on the sponsors (which should have been the target anyways).

I have chatted with several affiliate webmasters who paid the license.. unfortunate for them..but didn't the money to fight, so they had to just take it.



Fight the Targeting!

[latinasojourn]

Originally posted by Mr.Fiction
Acacia desperately needed another press release because their stock price is going nowhere. The Acacia pumpers have been promising $10 a share for months, if not years.

Wait until the financials are released, Playboy (like Hustler) probably pays them next to nothing, but Acacia gets to use the brand name.

This seems to have been the strategy from the start. Try to get money from the little guys while giving it away to the big guys so they can keep the press releases coming and keep the stock price from tanking.

You can make a graph showing the Acacia stock price and the bullshit press releases. None of it has to do with income or the validity of the patent, it's all to do with how they manipulate gullible stock buyers.

I also would not be surprised to see Acacia send out another round of notices to small webmasters using the Playboy logo to try to convince people to settle, like they did with Hustler.

If it turns out that the Playboy deal really is as ridiculous as some have suggested it is, it proves that Acacia's plan is to fight the little guys, but settle with sweetheart deals for the big guys. What does that tell you about how strong Acacia really thinks their patent is if they aren't willing to fight big companies?

very astute analysis.

[pussyluver]

Originally posted by FightThisPatent




Acacia could not come after an affiliate to license their patent based on revenue derived from Playboycash. This would a "double dipping" situation that they can't do.

But, since most affiliate webmasters use more than one program, they could target you for the revenue you gained by using unlicensed programs and you would have to be able to separate out the revenue streams.

I think that Acacia has seen how futile it is to target the affiliate webmaster, and instead, now focus on the sponsors (which should have been the target anyways).

I have chatted with several affiliate webmasters who paid the license.. unfortunate for them..but didn't the money to fight, so they had to just take it.



Fight the Targeting!

Should the sponosrs be the target or should the software producers such as Microsoft and RealPlayer shoulder the legal expense? When I buy a Ford Ranger, I don't expect the J. A. Pan Company to sue me over the breaking sytem I'm using.

[mardigras]

Do they have access to affiliate lists?

[VeriSexy]

Originally posted by FightThisPatent



http://www.FightThePatent.com/v2/Playboy.html


GFY thread: http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showth...hreadid=252667



Fight the Linking!

This is very sad, Acacia adds a very big brandname to their list

[pussyluver]

Originally posted by mardigras
Do they have access to affiliate lists?

They just found you, your profile is showing