Why do you think TGP is killing the industry? - GoFuckYourself.com

SleazyDream · 04-25-2004, 06:19 PM

ok, here's a post for the has beens and wanabees that think they know everything.

why do you think TGP is killing the industry?

I'll comment on the intelligence of your remarks.

Brujah · 04-25-2004, 06:20 PM

Sponsors are more responsible for killing the industry, with their billing practices.

DavePlays · 04-25-2004, 06:22 PM

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Originally posted by SleazyDream
ok, here's a post for the has beens and wanabees that think they know everything.

why do you think TGP is killing the industry?

I'll comment on the intelligence of your remarks.

I don't.

SleazyDream · 04-25-2004, 06:22 PM

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Originally posted by Brujah
Sponsors are more responsible for killing the industry, with their billing practices.

if you think billing is the only problem out there then you don't have a clue

Mr. Marks · 04-25-2004, 06:23 PM

TGP ain't killing the biz, you pig-headed freak.

Martin · 04-25-2004, 06:23 PM

TOO MUCH FREE PORN!!!

Illicit · 04-25-2004, 06:23 PM

way too much content available. no one needs to sign up anymore

SleazyDream · 04-25-2004, 06:23 PM

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Originally posted by papichulo
TGP ain't killing the biz, you pig-headed freak.

my head looks more like a sheep than a pig - idiot

SleazyDream · 04-25-2004, 06:24 PM

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Originally posted by ajpiii
way too much content available. no one needs to sign up anymore

yet i get 100's of signups a day... oddd

Useless Warrior · 04-25-2004, 06:25 PM

TGPs are the industry.

Those damned paysites and affiliate accounts are there to just serve our TGPs.

Aren't they, Sleazy?

BlackCrayon · 04-25-2004, 06:25 PM

i wouldn't say its 'killing' the industry but the source of 1000's of free daily updated pictures almost eliminates the need for the casual porn surfer to join a site. chances are unless he sees something that he really likes, he'll be content with the free stuff. personally i'd like to see things go back to the old days before free content and hosted galleries. thin out the ranks a bit.

SleazyDream · 04-25-2004, 06:25 PM

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Originally posted by Martin
TOO MUCH FREE PORN!!!

not enough free porn

SomeCreep · 04-25-2004, 06:25 PM

TGPs are not killing the industry.

Illicit · 04-25-2004, 06:25 PM

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Originally posted by SleazyDream
yet i get 100's of signups a day... oddd

but you could be getting more, you just make up for it with the volume of people that visit your site...

Rick Latona · 04-25-2004, 06:26 PM

I don't think it is killing the industry. P2P file sharing is a bigger threat. People go to TGPs to watch commercials. If they want more they have to buy. What's wrong with that?

SleazyDream · 04-25-2004, 06:26 PM

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Originally posted by Useless Warrior
TGPs are the industry.

Those damned paysites and affiliate accounts are there to just serve our TGPs.

Aren't they, Sleazy?

those that arn't idiots KNOW that tgp is about 3rd or 4th in volume producers in the traffic game

Brujah · 04-25-2004, 06:27 PM

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Originally posted by SleazyDream
if you think billing is the only problem out there then you don't have a clue

pay attention.. "more responsible" than tgp's.

once you learn to read and master basic comprehension, you'll not be so confused all the time when intelligent people speak.

dirtysouth · 04-25-2004, 06:27 PM

You get 100,000's of hits a day. Any egg-headed moron can get 100's of sign-ups from that pool.

Mr. Marks · 04-25-2004, 06:28 PM

Nice troll attempt, Sleazy.

What's the problem, didn't get enough attention as a kid so you get it by trolling the boards for compliments?

SleazyDream · 04-25-2004, 06:28 PM

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Originally posted by Rick Latona
I don't think it is killing the industry. P2P file sharing is a bigger threat. People go to TGPs to watch commercials. If they want more they have to buy. What's wrong with that?

ok, listen up folks. this guy ISN'T an idiot, and guess what, he's filthy fucking rich, travels the world, enjoys life, and runs a kind of a TGP.

IPK · 04-25-2004, 06:28 PM

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Originally posted by Brujah
pay attention.. "more responsible" than tgp's.

once you learn to read and master basic comprehension, you'll not be so confused all the time when intelligent people speak.

04-25-2004, 06:28 PM

Complete fuckin bogus. TGPs are great high-traffic sources, easy and quick porn for the surfer and the traffic does convert.

But that doesn't mean that there's not money to be made with other sites.

beemk · 04-25-2004, 06:28 PM

tgps are helping the industry if anything. its like saying the people at costco that hand out free sample cups of food are killing the sales because people eat the samples and dont want to buy food.

SleazyDream · 04-25-2004, 06:29 PM

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Originally posted by BlackCrayon
i wouldn't say its 'killing' the industry but the source of 1000's of free daily updated pictures almost eliminates the need for the casual porn surfer to join a site. chances are unless he sees something that he really liies, he'll be content with the free stuff. personally i'd like to see things go back to the old days before free content and hosted galleries. thin out the ranks a bit.

has been

SleazyDream · 04-25-2004, 06:29 PM

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Originally posted by SomeCreep
TGPs are not killing the industry.

Useless Warrior · 04-25-2004, 06:29 PM

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Originally posted by beemk
tgps are helping the industry if anything. its like saying the people at costco that hand out free sample cups of food are killing the sales because people eat the samples and dont want to buy food.

Very well said.

quiet · 04-25-2004, 06:30 PM

too much free porn!!

Useless Warrior · 04-25-2004, 06:31 PM

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Originally posted by quiet
too much free porn!!

BLASPHEMY!!!

Pornwolf · 04-25-2004, 06:32 PM

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Originally posted by SleazyDream
those that arn't idiots KNOW that tgp is about 3rd or 4th in volume producers in the traffic game

Who do you consider first and second?

SleazyDream · 04-25-2004, 06:34 PM

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Originally posted by ajpiii
but you could be getting more, you just make up for it with the volume of people that visit your site...

lets think about this - how many porn signups does Yahoo get for total volume of all hits it gets, not just specific people looking for porn?

if you compare from that standpoint many TGPs may even do better for ratios then search engine. I started my site looking at search engines thinking that there's no fucking way I'm basing my buisiness on the whimps of a for profit board of directors that can change my entire business with the stoke of a pen - so i got my own raw traffic and never concerend myself with search engines at all.

matty · 04-25-2004, 06:34 PM

TGP is killing the industry for simple supply and demand factors... TGP's provide massive amounts of people to massive amounts of free content. With all of this at the surfer's disposal, whats the use of buying a subscription?

Ash@phpFX · 04-25-2004, 06:34 PM

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Originally posted by dirtysouth
You get 100,000's of hits a day. Any egg-headed moron can get 100's of sign-ups from that pool.

but not every egg headed moron can get 100,000's of hits a day

SleazyDream · 04-25-2004, 06:36 PM

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Originally posted by quiet
too much free porn!!

3 movie cheapo

Illicit · 04-25-2004, 06:38 PM

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Originally posted by SleazyDream
lets think about this - how many porn signups does Yahoo get for total volume of all hits it gets, not just specific people looking for porn?

if you compare from that standpoint many TGPs may even do better for ratios then search engine. I started my site looking at search engines thinking that there's no fucking way I'm basing my buisiness on the whimps of a for profit board of directors that can change my entire business with the stoke of a pen - so i got my own raw traffic and never concerend myself with search engines at all.

thats definately the key, comming up with your own raw traffic, and lots of it !

LadyMischief · 04-25-2004, 06:38 PM

TGP has, with time, evolved into a conssummate part of the industry. No matter what one's opinion about it is, the fact of the matter is that it's here to stay, at least for the time being, and those that aren't taking advantage of it as a potential relatively simple stream of revenue are losing out, and have nobody to blame but themselves for the loss. Money is money, turning it down simply on the basis of "That's now how we did it in the GOOD old days" is ridiculous.

And if anything is killing the industry, it's webmasters. Why? If you have to ask, you're probably part of the cause.

bufferover · 04-25-2004, 06:39 PM

Hmm don't know if they realy kill the biz but fact is that like time pass con. ratios are getting more and more horible and let face it there is too much free stuff on them

dirtysouth · 04-25-2004, 06:39 PM

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Originally posted by asher
but not every egg headed moron can get 100,000's of hits a day

Exactly. So why waste all those hits on "freebies"?

I like sleazy. I like his business model. I just wish he (tgp's) didn't have to give so much away for so little return.

KRL · 04-25-2004, 06:39 PM

I've said this a few times before and don't know if any of the big TGP players have tried this, but I'd bet you'd double your revenues if you'd just let them see only the thumbs and make them pay to see the enlarged pics using a micropayment system.

Brujah · 04-25-2004, 06:41 PM

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Originally posted by KRL
I've said this a few times before and don't know if any of the big TGP players have tried this, but I'd bet you'd double your revenues if you'd just let them see only the thumbs and make them pay to see the enlarged pics using a micropayment system.

Someone already has this model.. actually more like a system any TGP can plug into. If I can find the link again, I'll post it.

SleazyDream · 04-25-2004, 06:41 PM

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Originally posted by Pornwolf
Who do you consider first and second?

if you don't know then you don't have a clue and shouldn't even be in the game.

SleazyDream · 04-25-2004, 06:42 PM

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Originally posted by matty
TGP is killing the industry for simple supply and demand factors... TGP's provide massive amounts of people to massive amounts of free content. With all of this at the surfer's disposal, whats the use of buying a subscription?

can i have some extra ketchup for my fries please?

KRL · 04-25-2004, 06:43 PM

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Originally posted by Brujah
Someone already has this model.. actually more like a system any TGP can plug into. If I can find the link again, I'll post it.

Is it increasing revenues for them?

I'm a big believer that the next wave is going to be all about micro payments for porn. Where you click a thumb and a ridiculously small amount would be charged to your account. Pennies add up when you are dealing with tens of millions of people like the porn biz does.

SleazyDream · 04-25-2004, 06:43 PM

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Originally posted by dimitar
Hmm don't know if they realy kill the biz but fact is that like time pass con. ratios are getting more and more horible and let face it there is too much free stuff on them

odd, my ratios over the years have been improving....

WiredGuy · 04-25-2004, 06:44 PM

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Originally posted by SleazyDream
I started my site looking at search engines thinking that there's no fucking way I'm basing my buisiness on the whimps of a for profit board of directors that can change my entire business with the stoke of a pen - so i got my own raw traffic and never concerend myself with search engines at all.

SleazyDream · 04-25-2004, 06:44 PM

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Originally posted by dirtysouth
Exactly. So why waste all those hits on "freebies"?

I like sleazy. I like his business model. I just wish he (tgp's) didn't have to give so much away for so little return.

do you have any idea what my return is?

NO

thus, you're an idiot.

Pornwolf · 04-25-2004, 06:45 PM

2 years ago this TGP killing the business argument was a good one. Now, with broadband surfers making up such a large part of the signups, TGP's are as Rick said 'Just a commercial.' Picture galleries are no more than big ads now.

As long as no one regularly starts posting videos longer than 20 seconds we will be ok. Anyone that does that should be shot. I know a lot of big MGP owners that won't allow large movies to be added to their pool. Hopefully everyone else is on the same page with this.

Although, ratios would be incredible with no free porn out there. I don't think anyone could argue that.

quiet · 04-25-2004, 06:46 PM

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Originally posted by KRL
Is it increasing revenues for them?

I'm a big believer that the next wave is going to be all about micro payments for porn. Where you click a thumb and a ridiculously small amount would be charged to your account. Pennies add up when you are dealing with tens of millions of people like the porn biz does.

the concept has certainly been around for awhile, but never really took off. there was a huge mpeg movie paysite from the late 90's that was making a killing charging on a per megabyte usage. they ended up fading away though, as other quality movie paysites began emerging.

dirtysouth · 04-25-2004, 06:46 PM

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Originally posted by KRL
I've said this a few times before and don't know if any of the big TGP players have tried this, but I'd bet you'd double your revenues if you'd just let them see only the thumbs and make them pay to see the enlarged pics using a micropayment system.

Like the content providers!

SleazyDream · 04-25-2004, 06:46 PM

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Originally posted by KRL
I've said this a few times before and don't know if any of the big TGP players have tried this, but I'd bet you'd double your revenues if you'd just let them see only the thumbs and make them pay to see the enlarged pics using a micropayment system.

sounds like tgp2 and doesn't work in a free open marketplace.
the one who doesn't comply will get all the traffic and in the end all the money.

stev0 · 04-25-2004, 06:47 PM

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Originally posted by beemk
tgps are helping the industry if anything. its like saying the people at costco that hand out free sample cups of food are killing the sales because people eat the samples and dont want to buy food.

If you could get to costco just by typing in a URL, and get thousands and thousands of samples, would you buy food?

TGP's used to be softcore/teaser pics... now there's no difference between the content on the galleries and the galleries in the members area.

04-25-2004, 06:19 PM	#1
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04-25-2004, 06:23 PM	#6
Martin "Assassins" Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: At home Posts: 17,277	TOO MUCH FREE PORN!!! __________________

04-25-2004, 06:23 PM	#7
Illicit wtf ? Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: GFY Posts: 11,895	way too much content available. no one needs to sign up anymore __________________ Insert Sig Here

04-25-2004, 06:25 PM	#11
BlackCrayon Too lazy to set a custom title Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Ottawa Posts: 19,631	i wouldn't say its 'killing' the industry but the source of 1000's of free daily updated pictures almost eliminates the need for the casual porn surfer to join a site. chances are unless he sees something that he really likes, he'll be content with the free stuff. personally i'd like to see things go back to the old days before free content and hosted galleries. thin out the ranks a bit. __________________ you don't know you're wearing a leash if you sit by the peg all day..

04-25-2004, 06:23 PM	#5
Mr. Marks Confirmed User Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Wherever I want Posts: 7,517	TGP ain't killing the biz, you pig-headed freak.

04-25-2004, 06:25 PM	#10
Useless Warrior Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Apr 2004 Posts: 975	TGPs are the industry. Those damned paysites and affiliate accounts are there to just serve our TGPs. Aren't they, Sleazy?

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04-25-2004, 06:26 PM	#15
Rick Latona The Best Ideas Start Here Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Atlanta Posts: 6,037	I don't think it is killing the industry. P2P file sharing is a bigger threat. People go to TGPs to watch commercials. If they want more they have to buy. What's wrong with that? __________________ Regards, Rick Latona http://latonas.com Latona's - We Sell Money Making Web Properties Note to buyers of websites and traffic: please check our inventory at http://latonas.com/websites-for-sale. If you would like to make an offer on something, just let me know.

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04-25-2004, 06:28 PM	#19
Mr. Marks Confirmed User Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Wherever I want Posts: 7,517	Nice troll attempt, Sleazy. What's the problem, didn't get enough attention as a kid so you get it by trolling the boards for compliments?

04-25-2004, 06:28 PM	#22
X37375787 Guest Posts: n/a	Complete fuckin bogus. TGPs are great high-traffic sources, easy and quick porn for the surfer and the traffic does convert. But that doesn't mean that there's not money to be made with other sites.

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matty Mining for Porn! Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: New Haven CT Posts: 1,328	TGP is killing the industry for simple supply and demand factors... TGP's provide massive amounts of people to massive amounts of free content. With all of this at the surfer's disposal, whats the use of buying a subscription? __________________ Want to accept Bitcoin (BTC) on your site without any issues? I modestly estimate a 15%-20% boost in conversions. Projects Like These Cost Big $$$, Please Donate: 112BNRe8WiooVBTqDFSLzjBo6Ve1LunViN

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LadyMischief Orgasms N Such! Industry Role: Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Oakville, Ontario Posts: 18,135	TGP has, with time, evolved into a conssummate part of the industry. No matter what one's opinion about it is, the fact of the matter is that it's here to stay, at least for the time being, and those that aren't taking advantage of it as a potential relatively simple stream of revenue are losing out, and have nobody to blame but themselves for the loss. Money is money, turning it down simply on the basis of "That's now how we did it in the GOOD old days" is ridiculous. And if anything is killing the industry, it's webmasters. Why? If you have to ask, you're probably part of the cause. __________________ ICQ 3522039 Content Manager - orgasm.com [email protected]

04-25-2004, 06:39 PM	#36
bufferover Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2004 Posts: 25,203	Hmm don't know if they realy kill the biz but fact is that like time pass con. ratios are getting more and more horible and let face it there is too much free stuff on them

04-25-2004, 06:39 PM	#38
KRL Entrepreneur Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: USA Posts: 31,429	I've said this a few times before and don't know if any of the big TGP players have tried this, but I'd bet you'd double your revenues if you'd just let them see only the thumbs and make them pay to see the enlarged pics using a micropayment system. __________________ If you would like to develop your domains, you can lease inexpensive foreign labor from the leaders in the field at iWebmasters.com TO LOWER YOUR COSTS AND INCREASE YOUR PRODUCTION! * * * * * * * * * * * * Domains Adult News KRL's Newsletter Biz Tips Just Listed Domains

04-25-2004, 06:45 PM	#46
Pornwolf Drunk and Unruly Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Hollywood Posts: 22,712	2 years ago this TGP killing the business argument was a good one. Now, with broadband surfers making up such a large part of the signups, TGP's are as Rick said 'Just a commercial.' Picture galleries are no more than big ads now. As long as no one regularly starts posting videos longer than 20 seconds we will be ok. Anyone that does that should be shot. I know a lot of big MGP owners that won't allow large movies to be added to their pool. Hopefully everyone else is on the same page with this. Although, ratios would be incredible with no free porn out there. I don't think anyone could argue that. __________________ I've trusted my sites to them for over a decade... Webair, bitches.