Kerry is a hypocrite....AND an idiot. - GoFuckYourself.com

sperbonzo · 08-02-2004, 08:16 AM

HEINZ?????

Made in Mexico

Shortly after reading the following e-mail content, I happened to look at the label of a jar of Heinz
sandwich slice pickles. Yep.... Made in Mexico"

Check some of your Heinz products.

"Sen. John Kerry keeps talking about U.S. corporations leaving this country and setting up shop in foreign countries, taking thousands of jobs with them. He is right, because that has happened. However, he is trying to blame it on George W Bush. As far as I know, Bush has not moved one factory out of this country because he is not the owner of a single factory. That cannot be said about Kerry and his wife, Teresa Heinz-Kerry. According to the Wall Street Journal, the Kerry's own 32 factories in Europe and 18 in Asia and the Pacific.

In addition, their company, the Heinz Company, leases (4) factories in Europe and (4) in Asia. Also, they own (27) factories in North America, some of which are in Mexico and the Caribbean. (80%) of Heinz products are made overseas. I wonder how many hundreds of American workers lost their jobs when these plants relocated in foreign countries. I also wonder if the workers in Mexico and Asia are paid the same wages and benefits as workers in the United States. Of course they're not. However, Kerry demands that other companies that relocate should pay the same benefits they did in the U.S. Why does he not demand this of the Heinz Company, since he is married to the owner? If Kerry is elected, will he and his wife close all those foreign factories and bring all those jobs back to America? Of course they won't. They're making millions off that cheap labor.

Also watch for these on the Jay Leno show! And they say Bush is dumb
The vast majority of our imports come from outside the country." - John F. Kerry
"If we don't succeed, we run the risk of failure." - John F. Kerry
"One word sums up probably the responsibility of any Governor, and that one word is 'to be prepared'." - John F. Kerry
"I have made good judgments in the past. I have made good judgments in the future." - John F. Kerry
"The future will be better tomorrow." - John F. Kerry
"We're going to have the best educated American people in the world." - John F. Kerry
"I stand by all the misstatements that I've made." - John F. Kerry
"We have a firm commitment to NATO, we are a part of NATO. We have a firm commitment to Europe. We are a part of Europe." - John F. Kerry
"Public speaking is very easy." - John F. Kerry
"A low voter turnout is an indication of fewer people going to the polls." - John F. Kerry
"We are ready for any unforeseen event that may or may not occur." - John F. Kerry "For NASA, space is still a high priority." - John F. Kerry
"Quite frankly, teachers are the only profession that teach our children." - John F. Kerry
"It isn't pollution that's harming the environment. It's the impurities in our air and water that are doing it." - John F. Kerry
"It's time for the human race to enter the solar system." - John F. Kerry

OK Quit Laughing. This guy sounds like Al GORE

candyflip · 08-02-2004, 08:22 AM

John Kerry runs Heinz? Even his wife isn't involved in the day to day operations of the company.

candyflip · 08-02-2004, 08:24 AM

Also...Bush and Co like to call Kerry a "Flip Flopper".

Guess who's the biggest "Flip Flopper" of them all? Yep...good 'ole GWB.

http://www.independentsforkerry.org/...lip-flops.html

Babaganoosh · 08-02-2004, 08:24 AM

He's better than the alternative. Would you prefer Dubya to get another 4 years?

Manowar · 08-02-2004, 08:25 AM

He's still the lesser of the two evils.

Vitasoy · 08-02-2004, 08:26 AM

Anyone but bush is my motto.

directfiesta · 08-02-2004, 08:26 AM

You really are desperate to find " dirt"....

FYI, there is a difference between a company that operates and sells in many countries ( such as Heinz, Kraft, Kellogg ...) and one that sells mostly in the US but outsources its work ( Dell, Citi Bank, ...)

Once you figure it out, read your post again.

BTW, my Heinz ketchup is Union made in Canada to be sold to Canadians, not to be reshipped to the US... Does that give you a clue ....

David! · 08-02-2004, 08:28 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by candyflip
John Kerry runs Heinz? Even his wife isn't involved in the day to day operations of the company.

No, neither him nor his wife have anything to do in the daily affairs of Heinz.
However, when you live in a 28 bedrooms house that was fully paid with Heinz money (Dividends, stock options, salary to do nothing), you should make sure you check your facts before opening your mouth.
That is also valid for dubya

volante · 08-02-2004, 08:30 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by sperbonzo
The vast majority of our imports come from outside the country." - John F. Kerry
"If we don't succeed, we run the risk of failure." - John F. Kerry
"One word sums up probably the responsibility of any Governor, and that one word is 'to be prepared'." - John F. Kerry
"I have made good judgments in the past. I have made good judgments in the future." - John F. Kerry
"The future will be better tomorrow." - John F. Kerry
"We're going to have the best educated American people in the world." - John F. Kerry
"I stand by all the misstatements that I've made." - John F. Kerry
"We have a firm commitment to NATO, we are a part of NATO. We have a firm commitment to Europe. We are a part of Europe." - John F. Kerry
"Public speaking is very easy." - John F. Kerry
"A low voter turnout is an indication of fewer people going to the polls." - John F. Kerry
"We are ready for any unforeseen event that may or may not occur." - John F. Kerry "For NASA, space is still a high priority." - John F. Kerry
"Quite frankly, teachers are the only profession that teach our children." - John F. Kerry
"It isn't pollution that's harming the environment. It's the impurities in our air and water that are doing it." - John F. Kerry
"It's time for the human race to enter the solar system." - John F. Kerry

OK Quit Laughing. This guy sounds like Al GORE

Actually, that sounds like Dan Quayle:
http://urbanlegends.about.com/librar...rry_quotes.htm

" If some of these nitwitticisms seem familiar, it's not because you've ever heard Senator John F. Kerry utter them. With the sole exception of the first example, which is a close paraphrase of something President G.W. Bush actually said in 2000, proper credit for the majority of the regrettable statements on this list goes to former Vice-President Dan Quayle."

sperbonzo · 08-02-2004, 08:31 AM

(I love throwing little firecrackers among the Bush haters and watching them scurry around!)

candyflip · 08-02-2004, 08:31 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by volante
Actually, that sounds like Dan Quayle:
http://urbanlegends.about.com/librar...rry_quotes.htm

" If some of these nitwitticisms seem familiar, it's not because you've ever heard Senator John F. Kerry utter them. With the sole exception of the first example, which is a close paraphrase of something President G.W. Bush actually said in 2000, proper credit for the majority of the regrettable statements on this list goes to former Vice-President Dan Quayle."

Looks like someone got owned.

Paul Waters · 08-02-2004, 08:32 AM

We have a free trade agreement involving Canada, the US and Mexico.

This is supposed to happen. Mexico sells the US pickles, you sell them fighter aircraft.

What should be opposed is the outsourcing of IT jobs to places like India.

Bush has gone on record as saying that this is a good thing.....

iFliPcEss · 08-02-2004, 08:32 AM

What ever it is I'd still go for Kerry, more ketchup to come

candyflip · 08-02-2004, 08:33 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by sperbonzo
(I love throwing little firecrackers among the Bush haters and watching them scurry around!)

You should watch the Bush loving pornographers try to rationalize their support for that dipshit. It's even more hilarious.

VirtuMike · 08-02-2004, 09:14 AM

STFU n00b.

tony286 · 08-02-2004, 09:54 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by sperbonzo
HEINZ?????

Made in Mexico

Shortly after reading the following e-mail content, I happened to look at the label of a jar of Heinz
sandwich slice pickles. Yep.... Made in Mexico"

Check some of your Heinz products.

"Sen. John Kerry keeps talking about U.S. corporations leaving this country and setting up shop in foreign countries, taking thousands of jobs with them. He is right, because that has happened. However, he is trying to blame it on George W Bush. As far as I know, Bush has not moved one factory out of this country because he is not the owner of a single factory. That cannot be said about Kerry and his wife, Teresa Heinz-Kerry. According to the Wall Street Journal, the Kerry's own 32 factories in Europe and 18 in Asia and the Pacific.

In addition, their company, the Heinz Company, leases (4) factories in Europe and (4) in Asia. Also, they own (27) factories in North America, some of which are in Mexico and the Caribbean. (80%) of Heinz products are made overseas. I wonder how many hundreds of American workers lost their jobs when these plants relocated in foreign countries. I also wonder if the workers in Mexico and Asia are paid the same wages and benefits as workers in the United States. Of course they're not. However, Kerry demands that other companies that relocate should pay the same benefits they did in the U.S. Why does he not demand this of the Heinz Company, since he is married to the owner? If Kerry is elected, will he and his wife close all those foreign factories and bring all those jobs back to America? Of course they won't. They're making millions off that cheap labor.

Also watch for these on the Jay Leno show! And they say Bush is dumb
The vast majority of our imports come from outside the country." - John F. Kerry
"If we don't succeed, we run the risk of failure." - John F. Kerry
"One word sums up probably the responsibility of any Governor, and that one word is 'to be prepared'." - John F. Kerry
"I have made good judgments in the past. I have made good judgments in the future." - John F. Kerry
"The future will be better tomorrow." - John F. Kerry
"We're going to have the best educated American people in the world." - John F. Kerry
"I stand by all the misstatements that I've made." - John F. Kerry
"We have a firm commitment to NATO, we are a part of NATO. We have a firm commitment to Europe. We are a part of Europe." - John F. Kerry
"Public speaking is very easy." - John F. Kerry
"A low voter turnout is an indication of fewer people going to the polls." - John F. Kerry
"We are ready for any unforeseen event that may or may not occur." - John F. Kerry "For NASA, space is still a high priority." - John F. Kerry
"Quite frankly, teachers are the only profession that teach our children." - John F. Kerry
"It isn't pollution that's harming the environment. It's the impurities in our air and water that are doing it." - John F. Kerry
"It's time for the human race to enter the solar system." - John F. Kerry

OK Quit Laughing. This guy sounds like Al GORE

W wins I hope you have something else to do to make a living.

lim_joe · 08-02-2004, 09:58 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Vitasoy
Anyone but bush is my motto.

i'm with you on that!

Tom_PMs · 08-02-2004, 10:04 AM

Nice job with the misinformation. *yawn*

mardigras · 08-02-2004, 10:07 AM

So Teresa should have abolished all her interests in the company when she married him?

BTW, the Heinz-Kerry money came from her previous husband John Heinz, a Republican senator from Pennsylvania who was killed in an auto crash in 1991. Take all those stats that were quoted earlier and put the blame where they belong...

Zerof8 · 08-02-2004, 10:11 AM

What politician isnt a hypocrit and a liar? Yeah thats fucked up but at least heinz only relocated to make more money instead of starting a war for it

Doctor Dre · 08-02-2004, 10:12 AM

It's his wife's compagny not his own ...=

retrograde · 08-02-2004, 10:16 AM

Ummm... This isn't accruate at all. Teresa Heinz does not own any factories, and she does NOT own the Heinz company, she only owns about 4% of its stock. This rumor is addressed here: http://www.snopes.com/politics/kerry/heinz.asp

Quote:

Although Senator Kerry has been critical of the Bush administration for rewarding "Benedict Arnold CEOs" who move "profits and jobs overseas," the above-quoted attempt to link Kerry (through his wife) with the very outsourcing he decries is flawed in two major ways. First off, Teresa Heinz Kerry does not "own the Heinz Corporation" ? she has no involvement whatsoever with the management or operations of the H.J. Heinz Company, nor does she own anything close to a controlling interest of the company's stock. According to Heinz itself, the Heinz family trust which Mrs. Kerry inherited sold most of its shares of Heinz stock back in 1995 and currently holds less than a 4% interest in the company:
...
(A 4% stake in a company as large as Heinz still represents a considerable amount of money, but it isn't nearly large enough a share to give the holder any significant control or influence over the company's business decisions.)

bdld · 08-02-2004, 10:20 AM

nobody's perfect. deal with it.

Giorgio_Xo · 08-02-2004, 10:25 AM

Kerry and wife have no say in the operations of Heinz Foods. She isn't even the majority shareholder so to blame her for Heinz policy is short sighted.

mardigras · 08-02-2004, 10:27 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by retrograde
the Heinz family trust which Mrs. Kerry inherited sold most of its shares of Heinz stock back in 1995 and currently holds less than a 4% interest in the company:

In other words any relations she would have had with day-to-day operations would have been when the Republican senator owned it.

sperbonzo · 08-02-2004, 10:40 AM

I guess my point here was to show that everybody gets ALL worked up if you bring up any negative stuff about Kerry, but will happily post the most bizarre, wacked out stuff about Bush with out any reflection on how silly some of it is

Zprogramz · 08-02-2004, 10:43 AM

Who do we have that is better - Bush?

Z

Fletch XXX · 08-02-2004, 10:44 AM

idiots, white people will not pick fruit or vegetables for money,. it has not gotten that bad yet here.

mexicans still pick all the oranges in california and do so as illegal slave labor. wanna bitch about something bitch about the roots of it.

white kids are lazy so are black kids, in this country they wont pick no fucking tomatoes for 10 hours a day, are you kidding?

of course they get the mexicans to do it, untill you fuckers sep up and make your kids work a hard day.

till then, keep driving your SUVs and enjoy the $2 a gal gas and shut up unless you want to go pick tomotates, i know i wont go pick no fucking fruits...

Tom_PMs · 08-02-2004, 10:46 AM

You'll get it on both sides.
But some of the dirt on both of them is perfectly legit as well. It's easy enough to find your own opinion.
Some sources are real slanted. Like today on CNN, they covered Bush and another white house press briefing ABOUT bush. Yet they had a reporter at a Kerry rally, and you could hear Kerry in the background, yet they were doing a story on what howard dean said. Then the anchor asked "any spin coming from the kerry campaign on it"..

Now, I didnt see any one ask about "the spin" coming from Bush.

Thats what I mean by slanted, lol. You have to pick your battles and look between the lines. Many times it's the reporters themselves making the "news" or sound bite in just how they ask questions.

Example: "Isn't it another case of flip-flopping?" versus "Whats your stance on this issue?". Frankly, I just want the answer, not a defensive statement, so I resent leading questions on both sides.

Anyway, I'm hungry..

bringer · 08-02-2004, 11:37 AM

mardigras · 08-02-2004, 11:50 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Tom_PM

Now, I didnt see any one ask about "the spin" coming from Bush.

You have to switch to Fox News for that

FlyingIguana · 08-02-2004, 12:54 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Armed & Hammered
He's better than the alternative. Would you prefer Dubya to get another 4 years?

thats what it comes down to. kerry may be an idiot, but it doesn't get much worse than bush

Mr.Fiction · 08-02-2004, 01:00 PM

The real "idiot" exposed in this thread isn't Kerry.

Tom_PMs · 08-02-2004, 01:09 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by bringer

LOL, I'm strongly leaning for Kerry, but thats funny you gotta admit, lol!

mardigras · 08-02-2004, 01:41 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Tom_PM
LOL, I'm strongly leaning for Kerry, but thats funny you gotta admit, lol!

When I think of them being John and John I think of
They Might Be Giants

hottoddy · 08-02-2004, 01:44 PM

Sad fact is the majority of this BB thinks a liberal administration will help the porn industry.

Another fact is Kerry is going to be the next Dukakis.

SykkBoy · 08-02-2004, 01:48 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by lim_joe
i'm with you on that!

they gonna let you vote yet?
;-)))

dude, we gotta do lunch later this week to discuss some business......

Azlord · 08-02-2004, 01:49 PM

No More Bush!

SykkBoy · 08-02-2004, 01:50 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by hottoddy
Sad fact is the majority of this BB thinks a liberal administration will help the porn industry.

Another fact is Kerry is going to be the next Dukakis.

as opposed to a conservative administration who has the religious right in their ear?

so, do you go to church and pray on Sundays?

Mr.Fiction · 08-02-2004, 01:55 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by hottoddy
Sad fact is the majority of this BB thinks a liberal administration will help the porn industry.

Yeah, newbies like Larry Flynt who spent time in jail under a conservative administration think that Democrats are better for the porn industry.

Porn prosecutions under Democrats are far lower than those under Republicans and that fact along with the great economy under Clinton is part of what built the online adult industry into a huge money maker.

Bush and his justice department and his favorite Supreme Court justices all want porn to be illegal and to put porn webmasters in jail.

You need to turn off Fox and start thinking for yourself, or at least look at history.

A Republican administration has never been good for the adult industry or for freedom of speech.

EviLGuY · 08-02-2004, 01:55 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by candyflip
John Kerry runs Heinz? Even his wife isn't involved in the day to day operations of the company.

Exactly.. this guy that posted this must be a fervent Fox "news" watcher.

If you think the husband of a woman that owns part of Heinz and isn't involved at all in the day to day operations has more to do with jobs going overseas then the PRESIDENT OF THE FUCKING USA.. you have some serious mental issues.

GFX Wiz · 08-02-2004, 01:57 PM

I usually don't throw my

in on politics...but didn't Dan Quayle say most of that stuff? It seems remarkably familiar and I never have heard anything out of Kerry's mouth prior to the DNC.

Preacher · 08-02-2004, 02:29 PM

who cares? still a lot of better than bush

Shagpipe · 08-02-2004, 03:44 PM

eat dick

BlueDesignStudios · 08-02-2004, 05:32 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Shagpipe
eat dick

do you?

Raf1 · 08-02-2004, 05:36 PM

he's a lot better than Bush...

NiteRain · 08-02-2004, 06:39 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Mr.Fiction
Yeah, newbies like Larry Flynt who spent time in jail under a conservative administration think that Democrats are better for the porn industry.

Porn prosecutions under Democrats are far lower than those under Republicans and that fact along with the great economy under Clinton is part of what built the online adult industry into a huge money maker.

Bush and his justice department and his favorite Supreme Court justices all want porn to be illegal and to put porn webmasters in jail.

You need to turn off Fox and start thinking for yourself, or at least look at history.

A Republican administration has never been good for the adult industry or for freedom of speech.

LOL, that is the main reason FOX is banned in canada, no real objectivity.

Thrawn$ · 08-02-2004, 06:39 PM

he's a jew

08-02-2004, 08:16 AM	#1
sperbonzo I'd rather be on my boat. Industry Role: Join Date: May 2003 Location: Miami, FL Posts: 9,748	Kerry is a hypocrite....AND an idiot. HEINZ????? Made in Mexico Shortly after reading the following e-mail content, I happened to look at the label of a jar of Heinz sandwich slice pickles. Yep.... Made in Mexico" Check some of your Heinz products. "Sen. John Kerry keeps talking about U.S. corporations leaving this country and setting up shop in foreign countries, taking thousands of jobs with them. He is right, because that has happened. However, he is trying to blame it on George W Bush. As far as I know, Bush has not moved one factory out of this country because he is not the owner of a single factory. That cannot be said about Kerry and his wife, Teresa Heinz-Kerry. According to the Wall Street Journal, the Kerry's own 32 factories in Europe and 18 in Asia and the Pacific. In addition, their company, the Heinz Company, leases (4) factories in Europe and (4) in Asia. Also, they own (27) factories in North America, some of which are in Mexico and the Caribbean. (80%) of Heinz products are made overseas. I wonder how many hundreds of American workers lost their jobs when these plants relocated in foreign countries. I also wonder if the workers in Mexico and Asia are paid the same wages and benefits as workers in the United States. Of course they're not. However, Kerry demands that other companies that relocate should pay the same benefits they did in the U.S. Why does he not demand this of the Heinz Company, since he is married to the owner? If Kerry is elected, will he and his wife close all those foreign factories and bring all those jobs back to America? Of course they won't. They're making millions off that cheap labor. Also watch for these on the Jay Leno show! And they say Bush is dumb The vast majority of our imports come from outside the country." - John F. Kerry "If we don't succeed, we run the risk of failure." - John F. Kerry "One word sums up probably the responsibility of any Governor, and that one word is 'to be prepared'." - John F. Kerry "I have made good judgments in the past. I have made good judgments in the future." - John F. Kerry "The future will be better tomorrow." - John F. Kerry "We're going to have the best educated American people in the world." - John F. Kerry "I stand by all the misstatements that I've made." - John F. Kerry "We have a firm commitment to NATO, we are a part of NATO. We have a firm commitment to Europe. We are a part of Europe." - John F. Kerry "Public speaking is very easy." - John F. Kerry "A low voter turnout is an indication of fewer people going to the polls." - John F. Kerry "We are ready for any unforeseen event that may or may not occur." - John F. Kerry "For NASA, space is still a high priority." - John F. Kerry "Quite frankly, teachers are the only profession that teach our children." - John F. Kerry "It isn't pollution that's harming the environment. It's the impurities in our air and water that are doing it." - John F. Kerry "It's time for the human race to enter the solar system." - John F. Kerry OK Quit Laughing. This guy sounds like Al GORE __________________ Michael Sperber / Acella Financial LLC/ Online Payment Processing [email protected] / http://Acellafinancial.com/ ICQ 177961090 / Tel +1 909 NET BILL / Skype msperber

08-02-2004, 08:22 AM	#2
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08-02-2004, 08:24 AM	#3
candyflip Carpe Visio Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: New York Posts: 43,064	Also...Bush and Co like to call Kerry a "Flip Flopper". Guess who's the biggest "Flip Flopper" of them all? Yep...good 'ole GWB. http://www.independentsforkerry.org/...lip-flops.html __________________ Spend you some brain. Email Me

08-02-2004, 08:24 AM	#4
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08-02-2004, 08:26 AM	#6
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08-02-2004, 08:25 AM	#5
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08-02-2004, 08:26 AM	#7
directfiesta Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Montreal, Quebec Posts: 29,679	You really are desperate to find " dirt".... FYI, there is a difference between a company that operates and sells in many countries ( such as Heinz, Kraft, Kellogg ...) and one that sells mostly in the US but outsources its work ( Dell, Citi Bank, ...) Once you figure it out, read your post again. BTW, my Heinz ketchup is Union made in Canada to be sold to Canadians, not to be reshipped to the US... Does that give you a clue .... __________________ I know that Asspimple is stoopid ... As he says, it is a FACT ! But I can't figure out how he can breathe or type , at the same time ....

08-02-2004, 08:31 AM	#10
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08-02-2004, 08:32 AM	#13
iFliPcEss Registered User Join Date: Dec 2003 Posts: 3,087	What ever it is I'd still go for Kerry, more ketchup to come

08-02-2004, 09:14 AM	#15
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08-02-2004, 10:07 AM	#19
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08-02-2004, 10:11 AM	#20
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08-02-2004, 10:25 AM	#24
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08-02-2004, 10:40 AM	#26
sperbonzo I'd rather be on my boat. Industry Role: Join Date: May 2003 Location: Miami, FL Posts: 9,748	I guess my point here was to show that everybody gets ALL worked up if you bring up any negative stuff about Kerry, but will happily post the most bizarre, wacked out stuff about Bush with out any reflection on how silly some of it is __________________ Michael Sperber / Acella Financial LLC/ Online Payment Processing [email protected] / http://Acellafinancial.com/ ICQ 177961090 / Tel +1 909 NET BILL / Skype msperber

08-02-2004, 10:43 AM	#27
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08-02-2004, 10:44 AM	#28
Fletch XXX GFY HALL OF FAME DAMMIT!!! Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: that 504 Posts: 60,840	idiots, white people will not pick fruit or vegetables for money,. it has not gotten that bad yet here. mexicans still pick all the oranges in california and do so as illegal slave labor. wanna bitch about something bitch about the roots of it. white kids are lazy so are black kids, in this country they wont pick no fucking tomatoes for 10 hours a day, are you kidding? of course they get the mexicans to do it, untill you fuckers sep up and make your kids work a hard day. till then, keep driving your SUVs and enjoy the $2 a gal gas and shut up unless you want to go pick tomotates, i know i wont go pick no fucking fruits... __________________ Want an Android App for your tube, membership, or free site? Need banners or promo material? Hit us up (ICQ Fletch: 148841377) or email me fletchxxx at gmail.com - recent work - About me

08-02-2004, 10:46 AM	#29
Tom_PMs Confirmed User Join Date: Jun 2004 Posts: 2,049	You'll get it on both sides. But some of the dirt on both of them is perfectly legit as well. It's easy enough to find your own opinion. Some sources are real slanted. Like today on CNN, they covered Bush and another white house press briefing ABOUT bush. Yet they had a reporter at a Kerry rally, and you could hear Kerry in the background, yet they were doing a story on what howard dean said. Then the anchor asked "any spin coming from the kerry campaign on it".. Now, I didnt see any one ask about "the spin" coming from Bush. Thats what I mean by slanted, lol. You have to pick your battles and look between the lines. Many times it's the reporters themselves making the "news" or sound bite in just how they ask questions. Example: "Isn't it another case of flip-flopping?" versus "Whats your stance on this issue?". Frankly, I just want the answer, not a defensive statement, so I resent leading questions on both sides. Anyway, I'm hungry.. __________________ You've read it, you can't unread it.

08-02-2004, 11:37 AM	#30
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08-02-2004, 01:00 PM	#33
Mr.Fiction Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Free Speech Land Posts: 9,484	The real "idiot" exposed in this thread isn't Kerry. __________________ Don't be lazy, protect free speech: ACLU \| Free Speech Coalition \| EFF \| IMPA

08-02-2004, 01:44 PM	#36
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08-02-2004, 01:49 PM	#38
Azlord Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: City... City of Satan Posts: 2,651	No More Bush!

08-02-2004, 01:57 PM	#42
GFX Wiz Confirmed User Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: SW Florida Posts: 916	I usually don't throw my in on politics...but didn't Dan Quayle say most of that stuff? It seems remarkably familiar and I never have heard anything out of Kerry's mouth prior to the DNC.

08-02-2004, 02:29 PM	#43
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08-02-2004, 03:44 PM	#44
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08-02-2004, 05:36 PM	#46
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08-02-2004, 06:39 PM	#48
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