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Old 08-05-2004, 01:52 PM   #1
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Stem Cell Research - WHY NOT?

This research will save millions of lives and Pres. Bush is against it!

I've read so much about it and wow how this research can
make a big difference!

What you think?
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Old 08-05-2004, 01:53 PM   #2
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Stem Cells seem the future to care many incurable diseases.

Is Kerry pro stem cell research?
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Old 08-05-2004, 01:54 PM   #3
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Stem Cells seem the future to care many incurable diseases.

Is Kerry pro stem cell research?
http://www.usatoday.com/news/politic...-florida_x.htm

yes, he believes in science even though he is religious, at least.
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Old 08-05-2004, 01:55 PM   #4
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Stem Cells seem the future to care many incurable diseases.

Is Kerry pro stem cell research?
Yes!

Hopefully this will be a decisive campaign issue!
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Old 08-05-2004, 01:56 PM   #5
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KERRY FOR PRESIDENT

Hopefully in enough time to save a freind of mine
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Old 08-05-2004, 01:59 PM   #6
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This research will save millions of lives and Pres. Bush is against it!

I've read so much about it and wow how this research can
make a big difference!

What you think?

Bush does not believe in taking innocent live to save other people. (stem cells)

Bush does believe in taking innocent lives to save other people.
(iraq war)


So apparently if you are a clump of cells thats when you are imortant to Bush.

Figure that out.
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Old 08-05-2004, 02:00 PM   #7
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stem cell research is a HUGE issue this coming election. how anyone can justify against it is beyond me. but again, being pre-bush is beyond me as well.
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Old 08-05-2004, 02:01 PM   #8
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Old 08-05-2004, 02:03 PM   #9
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Stem Cell Research - WHY NOT?
Stem cell research is being conducted in a few more progressive countries with substantial success.

The reason why not is simply because of the US govts desire to get in the face of every fucking thing, whether they have a clue about it or not - and also have this "perverse Christianity" attached to the "righteousness" of it. They are no better than any Islamic extremists spouting shit.

Agree.. it is very worthwhile and could help millions of people!
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Old 08-05-2004, 02:08 PM   #10
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yes, he believes in science even though he is religious, at least.
Bush is just lost somewhere ... I dunno where
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stem cell research is a HUGE issue this coming election. how anyone can justify against it is beyond me. but again, being pre-bush is beyond me as well.
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The irony Laura is that it is actually a huge issue in an election. Why??

It has nothing to do with the operation of goverment - they are there to serve the people and handle overall economic, defense, welfare, education and infrastructure issues - and don't seem to be managing that too well.

It is sad that this and many other issues have become embroiled in a perverse political situation.
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Old 08-05-2004, 02:37 PM   #12
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Old 08-05-2004, 03:17 PM   #13
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The whole religion thing is just an excuse.

Bush is a lapdog to the Pharmaceutical companies. It's all about the Benjamins.

"The money is in the medicine, not the cure"
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Old 08-05-2004, 03:36 PM   #14
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you people are all hypocrits...

what the fuck is wrong with privitized research and funding???

why the hell should they use tax dollars and then have government regulation on it??? why not let the people who develop it capitalize on it...

you as a "playa" could invest your own dollars and buy stock in the companies doing the research and make money yourselves...

STOP giving the government more things to do... small government is GOOD...
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Old 08-05-2004, 03:39 PM   #15
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oh one more thing..

messing with nature is fucked up.. and more diseases are created... as new vaccines and science interferes with the longevity of the human being... last thing we need is an exponential jump in over population due to people living longer...

4 cents ;)


btw.. i'm for stem cell research.. but i do not want the government funding it.. i'm all for privitization.. just like health care.. I don't want the governement telling me which doctor I can see... and when I can see them.. and what is considered more serious...
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Old 08-05-2004, 03:43 PM   #16
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you people are all hypocrits...

what the fuck is wrong with privitized research and funding???

why the hell should they use tax dollars and then have government regulation on it??? why not let the people who develop it capitalize on it...

you as a "playa" could invest your own dollars and buy stock in the companies doing the research and make money yourselves...

STOP giving the government more things to do... small government is GOOD...
Also they want the taxpayer to pay for the research that only rich old men will be able to afford.

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Old 08-05-2004, 03:45 PM   #17
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oh one more thing..

messing with nature is fucked up.. and more diseases are created... as new vaccines and science interferes with the longevity of the human being... last thing we need is an exponential jump in over population due to people living longer...
don't worry people in the third world who have high birth rates will never be able to afford stem cell technology

And if they get rich enough to afford it they'll stop having kids, as birth rates tend to decline as a country gets wealthier, so I wouldn't worry about it
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Old 08-05-2004, 03:58 PM   #18
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Also they want the taxpayer to pay for the research that only rich old men will be able to afford.

its really not too bad.. we were offered the option to freeze the embilical cord from our kid for stem cells if needed later in life...

I don't remember the exact amount.. but ya had to pay a yearly storage fee.. (privatized)...


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don't worry people in the third world who have high birth rates will never be able to afford stem cell technology

And if they get rich enough to afford it they'll stop having kids, as birth rates tend to decline as a country gets wealthier, so I wouldn't worry about it
I just hate to see people whine about the government making new laws.. then they go and whine b/c they won't make some new law that can totally be done by private funding...
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Funny thing Nader, as you know I just moved out here to middle America.

I was reading up on on senate candidates, and one of them stated they were against abortion, yet for stem cell research.

This had me a bit confused since from what I know about stem cells, they are obtained from an aborted fetus, and the umbilicus.

Stem Cell FAQ

Where do stem cells come from?
Pluripotent stem cells are isolated from human embryos that are a few days old. Cells from these embryos can be used to create pluripotent stem cell "lines" ?cell cultures that can be grown indefinitely in the laboratory. Pluripotent stem cell lines have also been developed from fetal tissue obtained from fetal tissue (older than 8 weeks of development).
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Funny thing Nader, as you know I just moved out here to middle America.

I was reading up on on senate candidates, and one of them stated they were against abortion, yet for stem cell research.

This had me a bit confused since from what I know about stem cells, they are obtained from an aborted fetus, and the umbilicus.

Stem Cell FAQ

Where do stem cells come from?
Pluripotent stem cells are isolated from human embryos that are a few days old. Cells from these embryos can be used to create pluripotent stem cell "lines" ?cell cultures that can be grown indefinitely in the laboratory. Pluripotent stem cell lines have also been developed from fetal tissue obtained from fetal tissue (older than 8 weeks of development).

Hey bud, How ya been thx for the info hit you up soon to see how your doing!
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This research will save millions of lives and Pres. Bush is against it!
Because Jesus doesn't like it.
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