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Old 09-22-2004, 12:20 PM   #1
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iBill Won The Motion

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I would rather beleive the news from the horses mouth myself

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Old 09-22-2004, 12:21 PM   #2
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Old 09-22-2004, 12:21 PM   #3
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I think it's E-motion that they won.
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I would rather beleive the news from the horses mouth myself

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Whether they won or lost, it still doesn't look good for them. They still need to find a solution.
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I thought everyone got the hint and left iBill after the last massive wave of problems they had.

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Old 09-22-2004, 12:26 PM   #9
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Whether they won or lost, it still doesn't look good for them. They still need to find a solution.
Dont they have one starting at another date, isnt the motion to hold things as they are till then? I could be wrong but thats how I understood it
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Old 09-22-2004, 12:26 PM   #10
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Denied, Granted, or whatever... Still doesn't fix the problem...

Is he trying to sell share of IBD?
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Old 09-22-2004, 12:27 PM   #12
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They lost. Lee try asking further up the chain than Lender.
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Old 09-22-2004, 12:28 PM   #13
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If the motion was granted this gives them time to move set up and keep going.

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Can see the people processing with Ibill scurrying for any good news to hold on to. Hope you are right but it's doubtful.
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Why doesn't Garrett Bender, iBill's CEO come on this board, like Epoch's and CCBill's have, and state for the record that they won their motion? The NY Court Records are public, so if he is telling the truth, he should post. The facts are clear. They were Denied and they are not processing in the USA, at least.
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Old 09-22-2004, 12:29 PM   #18
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Why would they lie? If they lost we'd all know about it anyway, this is getting crazy, surley someone will confirm soon, can't be doing them any good either way like this
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Old 09-22-2004, 12:31 PM   #20
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Why doesn't Garrett Bender, iBill's CEO come on this board, like Epoch's and CCBill's have, and state for the record that they won their motion? The NY Court Records are public, so if he is telling the truth, he should post. The facts are clear. They were Denied and they are not processing in the USA, at least.
There laywers have put a gag order on them, since this is a public domain it could be used against them in court.

They are waiting until they have everything in order "even if it's not good news" to post and make a statement
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Rick, Garrett is no longer CEO of ibill. The guy calling all the shots is Mark Smith. He often posts here. I think in this situation they can't make any public comments on the situation.
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Win or lose it doesn't matter if they freeze payouts. All the major clients will be gone in a day or two and there will be no incoming cash stream.
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Rick Latona's source is inaccurate ?
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Why doesn't Garrett Bender, iBill's CEO come on this board, like Epoch's and CCBill's have, and state for the record that they won their motion? The NY Court Records are public, so if he is telling the truth, he should post. The facts are clear. They were Denied and they are not processing in the USA, at least.
I (unfortunately) have to agree. Ibill has only processed 5% of my normal business volume today on all of my master accounts. FUCK! Anyone else who uses ibill seeing similar stats?
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They are a public company. I do not believe it is a gag order but for the reason anything made public be it bad or good could come back to bite them. They need to watch what is said in public.

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Why doesn't Garrett Bender, iBill's CEO come on this board, like Epoch's and CCBill's have, and state for the record that they won their motion? The NY Court Records are public, so if he is telling the truth, he should post. The facts are clear. They were Denied and they are not processing in the USA, at least.
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US client or EU client?

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why & where do u see that info?
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Im hearing they lost. I believe your sources are wrong Lee
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why & where do u see that info?
I've not been able to find one that was paid this week. And believe me I am looking.

Are there any EU sponsored merchants who have been paid here?
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Do you honestly think I'd put my name out there on breaking this story if I wasn't 100% correct with verifiable sources?
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Just got off the phone with Mark and he told me that his comment was in relation to yesterdays Motion about First Data being in breach of contract.

Just wanted to clarify that ;)

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Do you honestly think I'd put my name out there on breaking this story if I wasn't 100% correct with verifiable sources?
No need to back yourself up... given the two choices of people to believe... I think you'll get 99% of GFY'ers votes any day.
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Just got off the phone with Mark and he told me that his comment was in relation to yesterdays Motion about First Data being in breach of contract.

Just wanted to clarify that ;)

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So it had nothing to do with anything important lol
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So it had nothing to do with anything important lol
Um yes it was.

First Data was in breach of contract with iBill

Thats really important for iBill i would say ;)

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well since u had him on the phone did he happen to mention whats next?
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well since u had him on the phone did he happen to mention whats next?
Nope.

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Just got off the phone with Mark and he told me that his comment was in relation to yesterdays Motion about First Data being in breach of contract.

Just wanted to clarify that ;)

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Fishy, doubt the Court ruled on trial issues. Only thing the Court would rule on now is Emergency TRO and injunctions.
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Are you pulling this information from you ass?

They filed this case this week. I know from experiance in legal matters that breach of contract is a trial issue. What is your game?
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