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Old 09-30-2004, 04:38 PM   #51
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Look, I'm not saying that the justice department would WIN if they filed charges, but the case would NOT be immediately dismissed either. If xxxjay's idea caught fire in the adult industry, you can bet your ass that Asshat would file charges. xxxjay might well win the case, but he'd spend a lot of his $$$ doing it.
Where did he say that he wants to buy votes. All he said was that he doesn't want to do business with certain people and that's his choice whether you agree with it or not.
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Old 09-30-2004, 04:39 PM   #52
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I doubt he will make less money. There are so many sponsors out there

exactly what I was thinking...

hell for that matter isn't he involved in building his own program???

thought I read something on that a while back...
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Where did he say that he wants to buy votes. All he said was that he doesn't want to do business with certain people and that's his choice whether you agree with it or not.
Keep in mind that sponsors usually have more than one employee. Loryn openly supports Bush and works for Lens. Are you going to pull all your traffic from adult.com? Individuals have the right to their own views. That doesn't necessarily mean that the company they run or work for shares those views.
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Old 09-30-2004, 04:46 PM   #54
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Keep in mind that sponsors usually have more than one employee. Loryn openly supports Bush and works for Lens. Are you going to pull all your traffic from adult.com? Individuals have the right to their own views. That doesn't necessarily mean that the company they run or work for shares those views.
Who cares how far he takes it down the chain? It's still his business and nobody elses.
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Before I decide how I feel about this, I wanted to ask a question-

Did you mean you personally won't send your own traffic to a program that's pro-Bush, or did you mean that if an individual says that s/he supports Bush, you would pull his/her links from your list and/or not list them anymore?
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boobmaster, you couldn't be a bigger idiot if you tried. Your drctfiesta character makes about as much sense as you when you're trying to sound smart.

Right, it's illegal to not do business with people who are supporting politicians trying to put an end to your industry. Excellent point, are you a lawyer on your days off from being a doctor?
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Keep in mind that sponsors usually have more than one employee. Loryn openly supports Bush and works for Lens. Are you going to pull all your traffic from adult.com? Individuals have the right to their own views. That doesn't necessarily mean that the company they run or work for shares those views.
I would never pull our traffic based on politics while I would pull it based on other things. That's my choice and it's Jay's choice to pull his traffic for whatever reason he likes.
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He might also consider that the justice department may try to make a case against him for vote buying, which is illegal under federal law. By pulling his traffic from 'Bush sites' and sending it to 'Kerry sites', it could be argued that he is really paying people to vote for Kerry. Traffic translates into $$.
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Dude you have a great program and you just earned my personal respect to take a stand like that...Thank you for helping get rid of the dickhead...Vote Kerry/Edwards...
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Can anyone tell me how many kids are on this board? Like 60% 70% 90% ???????
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boobmaster, you couldn't be a bigger idiot if you tried. Your drctfiesta character makes about as much sense as you when you're trying to sound smart.

Right, it's illegal to not do business with people who are supporting politicians trying to put an end to your industry. Excellent point, are you a lawyer on your days off from being a doctor?
I have drctfiesta on ignore. As for you, you are entitled to your opinion. I am not going to get into it with you any more.
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Dude you have a great program and you just earned my personal respect to take a stand like that...Thank you for helping get rid of the dickhead...Vote Kerry/Edwards...
Man, is it gonna be a sad day around here on Nov 3.
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Dude, people get fired from jobs for supporting kerry, and the employer puts bush pamphlets in with their paychecks. Is that vote buying? no.
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For anyone that is stupid enough to openly support Bush while they remain in this business -- I have a deal for you - you can support Bush all you want. I will just stop sending you traffic.

Why support those who seek to destroy my way of life?

Just doing what I can.
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xxxjay ...

80smetal ... you like 80s metal? ... i can see you driving in your 83 bondo camaro listening to poison heading off to vote for bush.
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Man, is it gonna be a sad day around here on Nov 3.
Hay HE-MAN why don't you go to Iraq and fight? What the fuck are you doing here fighting with your kayboard???
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For anyone that is stupid enough to openly support Bush while they remain in this business -- I have a deal for you - you can support Bush all you want. I will just stop sending you traffic.

Why support those who seek to destroy my way of life?

Just doing what I can.

I support Bush...And I get in battles with Canadians on this board all the time... For example, there is this prick known as Rich, hes a BIG ASSHOLE. But I'm not childish like you, this is business, and lets say Rich worked for a content company, or something like that. I would, in a second (as long as he had a good deal) do business with him... I'm not a crybaby, but obviously you would like to be that... So choke on my cock




I do business with all friendly people in here, and also with ALL assholes, I don't give a FUCK
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Hey look, another brainwashed Texan.

No still photography folks, the cameras flash makes them even more delusional.
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I am voting for George Bush. I am basing that on a lot of factors like (terrorism, Iraq, Tax Cuts, support of small business, etc) with adult industry issues being secondary after those. I believe Bush has moral clarity and I know where he stands. I can't say the same for Kerry.

Take your traffic and shove it...
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Hey look, another brainwashed Texan.

No still photography folks, the cameras flash makes them even more delusional.
I just told you, despite people acting childish and getting into arguments with me, I will STILL do business with anyone on here, and that even means you, if you had something I was needing. So how does that make me a brainwashed Texan? I'm not sure I understand your diss.. Because I do business with everyone on here and I don't let personal feelings get in the way of my fucking $$$... TELL ME, HOW THE FUCK AM I BRAINWASHED ASSHOLE?
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xxxjay are you a registered voter who plans to vote?

I bet have the people on this board with political views about Bush or Kerry are not even registered voters (minus the ones from other countries).
To be 100% honest - I have a felony on my record for a bullshit drug violation a long time ago and I can not vote. That being said, I am still concerned with the future of this country and the future of this legal business that has been so good to me. I like doing business with SMART people and SMART people don?t support some asshole whose prerogative it is to legislate us out of business or worse yet -- lock us up!

To whoever the idiot was that was saying this was vote buying ? you can eat a fat sack of cocks!
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I'm certainly not voting for Bush, but I do have a question... will you be canning OC Cash accounts of those who do support Bush?
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I'm certainly not voting for Bush, but I do have a question... will you be canning OC Cash accounts of those who do support Bush?
No, I just won't send any of that delicious, refreshing Jay's XXX traffic to programs owned by people who rant about how great George Bush is on the boards.

Just doing what I can do to fight the war on stupidity.
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I'm certainly not voting for Bush, but I do have a question... will you be canning OC Cash accounts of those who do support Bush?
I didn't get an answer about the links list, either. Is he going to pull the links of people who support Bush and blacklist Bush voters in the future?
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Anyone know Kerry's view on our industry? Will he be as vigilante or not? Turning on the debate now...
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funniest thing is that all of jay's critics in this thread don't know who jay is....lol

i'm not kissing ass, btw.

plain and simple, Bush's record both in politics and in business over the years has been embarassing and disasterous.

if he is relelected and takes us to war with a few more countries he will be bringing our nation to its demise.

how the fuck can we spend 100s of billions of dollars on a not-needed war effort when we struggle to muster up a few billion for education?
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You know what - I almost didn't post this thread. Now, I am so glad that I did.

I'm off to watch the debates.
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For anyone that is stupid enough to openly support Bush while they remain in this business -- I have a deal for you - you can support Bush all you want. I will just stop sending you traffic.

Why support those who seek to destroy my way of life?

Just doing what I can.
Jay, we just made a nice link exchange. Personally, I'd hate to see it go over political reasons, but I support Bush (although I'm not an American citizen and I'm not eligible to vote in the US), and I don't intend to hide it.

I wouldn't want to mix business with political opinions, and I hope you don't remove my links because of this.
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No, I just won't send any of that delicious, refreshing Jay's XXX traffic to programs owned by people who rant about how great George Bush is on the boards.

Just doing what I can do to fight the war on stupidity.
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FUCK THE BUSH ASSWIPES!!
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He might also consider that the justice department may try to make a case against him for vote buying, which is illegal under federal law. By pulling his traffic from 'Bush sites' and sending it to 'Kerry sites', it could be argued that he is really paying people to vote for Kerry. Traffic translates into $$.
He has not said he was pulling from one and giving to the other. He said that anyone who "openly supports Bush..." So he could be giving anyone more spots, I'm Canadaian and do not have a say, however, I support Jays decision to speak his mind as he has the freedom (still) to do so, for the better of himself and our industry as a whole. I believe the outcome of the election (if in Bush's favor) will certainly cause more issues for the world as a whole, I can't vote him out, but I can support those that try!!

Here's to your crusade Jay

Now excuse me while I watch the rest of this debate.
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Hey look, another brainwashed Texan.

No still photography folks, the cameras flash makes them even more delusional.
With all due respective, Stocktrader....I'm a
true Texan AND full on Kerry supporter.

Believe me, the depth of Bush support in
Texas is not NEARLY what you might think.
Don't let this board convince you otherwise.

Oh, and btw...we don't all sound like idiots.
That drawl is kind of cute when coupled with
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Jay, we just made a nice link exchange. Personally, I'd hate to see it go over political reasons, but I support Bush (although I'm not an American citizen and I'm not eligible to vote in the US), and I don't intend to hide it.

I wouldn't want to mix business with political opinions, and I hope you don't remove my links because of this.
Drop his link Jay.
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For anyone that is stupid enough to openly support Bush while they remain in this business -- I have a deal for you - you can support Bush all you want. I will just stop sending you traffic.

Why support those who seek to destroy my way of life?

Just doing what I can.
So you would remove all of your topbucks links if someone from there said they liked Bush? You would get rid of the $20,000+/- you get from them per month because of their political views?

(personally, I do not support Bush, nor am I an American, but I just wanted to be clear what you're trying to say)
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Drop his link Jay.
this is none of your biz, so fuck off
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While I'm not sure I'd make the same decision on this specific issue, I applaud Jay for taking a stand publically.

I'm pro Kerry, but I'd have the same level of grudging admiration for a Pro Bush webmaster who made a similar decision, based on principle.

It actually doesn't matter if it's good business or not, as that's not the issue at hand. Everyone has that one area they wouldn't compromise on. For Jay, this is it. Good for him.
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So you would remove all of your topbucks links if someone from there said they liked Bush? You would get rid of the $20,000+/- you get from them per month because of their political views?

(personally, I do not support Bush, nor am I an American, but I just wanted to be clear what you're trying to say)
A company like that would have the sense to realize what Bush means to this business. There isn't one serious program owner who has publicly supported Bush as far as I've seen.
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Much respect Jay for this political statement, I love seeing politics play a part in business decisions like this

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Drop his link Jay.
I won't go that far. I wouldn't compromise and deal I have with people. However, I have seen some very outspoken pro-bush programs owners on the boards. With as many programs as there are out there - why support somebody that supports a president that will bring the entire industry down?

Bush is a conniving fucker. Did anyone notice how all the fuss about the 2257 regs sort of dropped off the radar? They?ve been delayed till after the elections because?

BUSH DOES NOT WANT TO LOSE YOUR VOTE!!

Same thing with the assault weapons ban. Was it a band idea to let it expire? Sure it was, but think about all of those yummy votes that he?s gonna get from the NRA people!

I can believe this straight ticket voting morons are too dumb to see that!
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Old 09-30-2004, 08:11 PM   #96
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Old 09-30-2004, 08:12 PM   #97
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To whoever the idiot was that was saying this was vote buying ? you can eat a fat sack of cocks!
I never said that it was vote buying, only that it could be percieved as vot buying by a VERY conservative AG looking to save his job.
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Old 09-30-2004, 08:14 PM   #98
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So you would remove all of your topbucks links if someone from there said they liked Bush? You would get rid of the $20,000+/- you get from them per month because of their political views?

(personally, I do not support Bush, nor am I an American, but I just wanted to be clear what you're trying to say)
I make 20K a month with topbucks and if you look in this thread you will see where Ali (VP of Topbucks) supported me on this. That's why I do business with them - they are SMART PEOPLE.

Voting for Bush while being in this business is like giving a gun to a person that want s to kill you. It's just dumb.
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Old 09-30-2004, 08:14 PM   #99
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I won't go that far. I wouldn't compromise and deal I have with people. However, I have seen some very outspoken pro-bush programs owners on the boards. With as many programs as there are out there - why support somebody that supports a president that will bring the entire industry down?

Bush is a conniving fucker. Did anyone notice how all the fuss about the 2257 regs sort of dropped off the radar? They?ve been delayed till after the elections because?

BUSH DOES NOT WANT TO LOSE YOUR VOTE!!

Same thing with the assault weapons ban. Was it a band idea to let it expire? Sure it was, but think about all of those yummy votes that he?s gonna get from the NRA people!

I can believe this straight ticket voting morons are too dumb to see that!
I agree totally. alexg is one of the most vocal supporters of this administration. Drop him like a bad habit.
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Old 09-30-2004, 08:15 PM   #100
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I never said that it was vote buying, only that it could be percieved as vot buying by a VERY conservative AG looking to save his job.
Actually, what you said was:

"What you are proposing is COMPLETERLY ANTI-AMERICAN. If you are an American citizen, you should be utterly ashamed of yourself for trying to influence voters by blackmailing them with threat of loss of traffic."

Not a personal attack on you, I just disagree strongly with what you said earlier.
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