An actual Business thread on GFY ..... How often does your host backup your server? - GoFuckYourself.com

PrivateIvy · 11-01-2004, 02:37 PM

Ok, I'm probably venting.....little bit ticked , ok, ALOT ticked, because I screwed up a Live page on one of my sites very early yesterday morning and didn't have a local copy. Totally my own fault for editing it in my ftp program and uploading without making a copy, so I kicked myself and then immediately requested any copy of that page from a recent backup.

Now, since this page has been running live on my site for a day and a half now

, I'm wondering this....

How often does your host backup your server?

and

Why would a particular page NOT be found in a recent backup?

Please share........

If nothing else, I need to vent....anybody that wants to call me and let me bitch them out right now is welcome to

Ivy

Dalai lama · 11-01-2004, 02:39 PM

I know the feeling Ivy

GonZo · 11-01-2004, 02:39 PM

Naked Hosting backs my stuff up weekly! They save my ass all the time!!

benc · 11-01-2004, 02:40 PM

Never. Usually the hosts backup services are overpriced, and then when the time finnaly comes that you need it, for some reason the backup is screwed up.

Rochard · 11-01-2004, 02:40 PM

Twice a day or more, depending on which server.

We also tend to keep local copies.

And we always, always backup pages locally and on the server before we work on them.

the Shemp · 11-01-2004, 02:41 PM

one a week...works for me

some_idiot · 11-01-2004, 02:42 PM

Never. I learned long ago working on an insurance company
project that if your livelyhood depends on it, run 2 servers and
a development box.

Development -> Staging Server -> test test test -> Live Server

Make 3 months updates at a time and then just move them over
on your maintance days.

Raven · 11-01-2004, 02:42 PM

We run a local network, so we're always backed up.

You can never have too much money or too many backups...

Mojohost.com backs us up once a week.

PrivateIvy · 11-01-2004, 02:44 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by RocHard
Twice a day or more, depending on which server.

We also tend to keep local copies.

And we always, always backup pages locally and on the server before we work on them.

I know, it was my stupidity for not making a copy and I have really cursed myself since yesterday morning for it. But GEEZ why in the hell would my host not have a copy of this page anywhere in my backups ? I'm pissed

And oh , yes, before I forget..... I LOVE you Rochard

Ivy

GonZo · 11-01-2004, 02:55 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by some_idiot
Never. I learned long ago working on an insurance company
project that if your livelyhood depends on it, run 2 servers and
a development box.

Development -> Staging Server -> test test test -> Live Server

Make 3 months updates at a time and then just move them over
on your maintance days.

Holy shit. So you know what an implementation plan, impact plan is....along with a data migration proceedure and roll back plan is as well !

There is hope.

the Shemp · 11-01-2004, 02:57 PM

if this was the page with Heather Hamptons in bondage, i probably have that saved somewhere...

BoNgHiTtA · 11-01-2004, 03:00 PM

Rackspace does nightly backups for me. Saved my ass more than once.

PrivateIvy · 11-01-2004, 03:00 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by the Shemp
if this was the page with Heather Hamptons in bondage, i probably have that saved somewhere...

haha !!! No ...I don't do her site anymore LOL and it was a much more important page... my own "Whats New" page with a few monthes of archived weekly updates and all the links to updates dating back to 2002

Ivy

the Shemp · 11-01-2004, 03:06 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by PrivateIvy
haha !!! No ...I don't do her site anymore LOL and it was a much more important page... my own "Whats New" page with a few monthes of archived weekly updates and all the links to updates dating back to 2002

Ivy

you mean the site was backed up, but that page was lost ?

PrivateIvy · 11-01-2004, 03:08 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by the Shemp
you mean the sites was backed up, but that page was lost ?

Yes, I've been told a couple different things, one was that there was no backup of that page and the other was that the page backed up with the blank copy that I had screwed up on

Either way....I'm likely screwed out of a page that held monthes worth of archives for my site.

Don't know what in the hell happened. I uploaded it and it uploaded blank. It was my fault for not having a local copy of it and now I'm really screwed

Ivy

FilthyRob · 11-01-2004, 03:13 PM

Screwed up situation Ivy. Any thing you can do about it? What about the wayback machine?

Someone has to have the link to that right?

AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE · 11-01-2004, 03:16 PM

Business?
Question?

Is it?

Kel · 11-01-2004, 03:17 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Raven
You can never have too much money or too many backups...

Soooo True.

Dalai lama · 11-01-2004, 03:18 PM

xclusive · 11-01-2004, 03:18 PM

well i back up all my stuff every day sometimes twice a day if i've been uploading a lot...

Black Dog · 11-01-2004, 03:23 PM

I'm with National Net and they back up my database server every day (for an additional charge). My other servers are backed up weekly.

B

the Shemp · 11-01-2004, 03:27 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by PrivateIvy
Yes, I've been told a couple different things, one was that there was no backup of that page and the other was that the page backed up with the blank copy that I had screwed up on

Either way....I'm likely screwed out of a page that held monthes worth of archives for my site.

Don't know what in the hell happened. I uploaded it and it uploaded blank. It was my fault for not having a local copy of it and now I'm really screwed

Ivy

wow, its not in the wrong directory on the server?

SinisterStudios · 11-01-2004, 03:27 PM

NEVER EVER EDIT A LIVE DOCUMENT!!!!!
That is Server admin 101, you must have a test server to make these changes on (or at least backup the files before you make a change. We usualy take the file and do a .old at he end ot the date and it makes it easier to rollback if needed.

Never edit live websites!!! We backup our servers to tape and do a rsync to a backup server we have at our office so we have 3 copies at all times, believe me you need to do this.

GTS Mark · 11-01-2004, 03:29 PM

Our servers do it once a day, it looks for changes on the server and downloads the most recent changes.

We had a terrible problem 8 months ago where we lost over 2 weeks of data and had no backup. Never again...

DH

PrivateIvy · 11-01-2004, 03:33 PM

Well THANKFULLY

I found it in Google's cache from last weeks crawl:

http://64.233.161.104/search?q=cache...new.htm+&hl=en

I LOVE GOOGLE NOW !!!

hehe

I'm back in business :-

And will never ever again edit and upload without saving a copy locally

Ivy

MrIzzz · 11-01-2004, 03:33 PM

once a week

strobi · 11-01-2004, 04:37 PM

daily on tape, 2 times/day on a seperate HD. (isprime)

2 times/ady on seperate HD (servermatrix)

Steen2 · 11-01-2004, 04:45 PM

ASk Magg.

deniska · 11-01-2004, 05:03 PM

We do nighly backups.. but like the posts above say its always best to have a local copy just in case.

webair · 11-01-2004, 05:07 PM

We offer Daily & weekly with free monthly backups of the backups off site =)

Juicy D. Links · 11-01-2004, 05:18 PM

i think my shit is backedup daily.

But i have local backups also just in case.

I am so sexy it hurts

goBigtime · 11-01-2004, 05:20 PM

You'll find that the usual answer is:

IF virtual server - Daily (At least)
If not -- find a new host. The reason for this can be a lot of security issues with shared server environments. If a client gets pissed off at the hosting company, they might go off on the server and mess up a lot of other clients of the hosting company as well (on that virtual server).

IF dedicated server - usually never, unless you are paying specifically for that service.

with a dedicated server, you are usually responsible for your own backups.

PrivateIvy · 11-01-2004, 05:52 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by goBigtime
You'll find that the usual answer is:

IF dedicated server - usually never, unless you are paying specifically for that service.

with a dedicated server, you are usually responsible for your own backups.

Webair does do weekly backups for dedicated servers ,no extra charge.

Turns out the server backed up the day that I uploaded the page and so it backed up the page that was blank.

But it's all fixed now and thanks to Mike @ Webair, I'll have daily backups from now on

But I will NEVER edit a live document again without saving a local copy first LOL so hopefully it won't matter !

Ivy

Doctor Dre · 11-01-2004, 05:53 PM

NEver ... I don't ask them to do that

Disco_Stu · 11-01-2004, 05:55 PM

The webhost I run is raid5 so it's instantaneously backed up as soon as you even upload a .001 k image...

Every host should do nightly backups at least, or you should start looking for a serious host.

Rob · 11-01-2004, 05:57 PM

What's a business thread?

Kidding!

I have my own servers and I back them up weekly.

Disco_Stu · 11-01-2004, 06:01 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Disco_Stu
The webhost I run is raid5 so it's instantaneously backed up as soon as you even upload a .001 k image...

Every host should do nightly backups at least, or you should start looking for a serious host.

Jace · 11-01-2004, 07:23 PM

sorry you lost your page, but you found it agfain, cool

why in fucks name is a web designer not saving the entire site locally and editing a live page? i have all my sites saved locally, and backed up on my tape drive

naked hosting backs me up on tape drive once a week

11-01-2004, 02:37 PM	#1
PrivateIvy Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: North Carolina Posts: 4,257	An actual Business thread on GFY ..... How often does your host backup your server? Ok, I'm probably venting.....little bit ticked , ok, ALOT ticked, because I screwed up a Live page on one of my sites very early yesterday morning and didn't have a local copy. Totally my own fault for editing it in my ftp program and uploading without making a copy, so I kicked myself and then immediately requested any copy of that page from a recent backup. Now, since this page has been running live on my site for a day and a half now , I'm wondering this.... How often does your host backup your server? and Why would a particular page NOT be found in a recent backup? Please share........ If nothing else, I need to vent....anybody that wants to call me and let me bitch them out right now is welcome to Ivy

11-01-2004, 02:39 PM	#2
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GTS Mark Vrume Mark Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Toronto, Canada Posts: 20,912	Our servers do it once a day, it looks for changes on the server and downloads the most recent changes. We had a terrible problem 8 months ago where we lost over 2 weeks of data and had no backup. Never again... DH

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PrivateIvy Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: North Carolina Posts: 4,257	Well THANKFULLY I found it in Google's cache from last weeks crawl: http://64.233.161.104/search?q=cache...new.htm+&hl=en I LOVE GOOGLE NOW !!! hehe I'm back in business :- And will never ever again edit and upload without saving a copy locally Ivy

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11-01-2004, 05:20 PM	#32
goBigtime Confirmed User Join Date: Nov 2002 Posts: 7,761	You'll find that the usual answer is: IF virtual server - Daily (At least) If not -- find a new host. The reason for this can be a lot of security issues with shared server environments. If a client gets pissed off at the hosting company, they might go off on the server and mess up a lot of other clients of the hosting company as well (on that virtual server). IF dedicated server - usually never, unless you are paying specifically for that service. with a dedicated server, you are usually responsible for your own backups. Last edited by goBigtime; 11-01-2004 at 05:21 PM..

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11-01-2004, 07:23 PM	#38
Jace FBOP Class Of 2013 Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: bumfuck, ky Posts: 35,562	sorry you lost your page, but you found it agfain, cool why in fucks name is a web designer not saving the entire site locally and editing a live page? i have all my sites saved locally, and backed up on my tape drive naked hosting backs me up on tape drive once a week