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Old 12-19-2004, 12:35 AM   #1
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Am I understanding this RIGHT? All this over Turboface is over $50?

Amybe I missed something here- but is all this 'scammer' stuff abotu turboface about $50 in traffic purchased?


if it is that is soooooo fucking sad i think I might want to puke and the people involved in the attack on him should be shot and pissed on and don't deserve to be in this game...

please tell me it's over more than $50 - please.... and dont' hand me this principle BULLSHIT.
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It's many many people for small ammounts ... the guy is probably just too broke to refound them, as he have no credit card and no money in his paypal account . And he didn't send an echeck
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Old 12-19-2004, 12:36 AM   #3
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50$ per person
but none the less
50 dollars
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He owes someone $900. Other than that I dunno.
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Old 12-19-2004, 12:37 AM   #6
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50$ per person
but none the less
50 dollars
My last beef was for like $200-400 and the guy couldn't put up ... I thought was really funny for somebody working in this business

now this is about $50 ? lol
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Old 12-19-2004, 12:37 AM   #7
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If I took a 50$ bill from your wallet, would you trust me with your ATM card?

He also owes cayne 1000$ - and fusion over 100$, and brand0n 10k hits.
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oh my fucking God - it's over $50?

this can't be true - you attackers CAN'T be THIS pathetic can you? CAN YOU?
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Old 12-19-2004, 12:37 AM   #9
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He owes someone $900. Other than that I dunno.
True the guy that he bought traffic from
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Old 12-19-2004, 12:37 AM   #10
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yes sleazy. i lost 50 bucks to that scam artist. and yes, ive made it an issue here once i seen everyone else bitching about the $ hes scammed from them

i belive if you total it all up its still under a grand hes got outta everyone.
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Let's say I ripped you off for $100.00. Would you just grin and walk away?

To make it worse, let's say I lied about it in public, and told everyone you were caused the problem, and you fucked yourself over, and weren't getting paid. Would you just grin and walk away?
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Old 12-19-2004, 12:38 AM   #12
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oh my fucking God - it's over $50?

this can't be true - you attackers CAN'T be THIS pathetic can you? CAN YOU?
If the guy scams you for 50 $ imagine what he can do when you will give him 1000 ? :P
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Old 12-19-2004, 12:38 AM   #13
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If I took a 50$ bill from your wallet, would you trust me with your ATM card?

He also owes cayne 1000$ - and fusion over 100$, and brand0n 10k hits.
i dropped a $50 in the sally ann bin today actually and refused the sticker
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yes sleazy. i lost 50 bucks to that scam artist. and yes, ive made it an issue here once i seen everyone else bitching about the $ hes scammed from them

i belive if you total it all up its still under a grand hes got outta everyone.
nah it's 900 $ from one guy alone ... but still a pathetic sum of money . At least grimshaw got like 15k ! lol
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i dropped a $50 in the sally ann bin today actually and refused the sticker
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yes sleazy. i lost 50 bucks to that scam artist. and yes, ive made it an issue here once i seen everyone else bitching about the $ hes scammed from them

i belive if you total it all up its still under a grand hes got outta everyone.
$50?

you are one of the most patheric LOOSERS I've ever met.
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oh my fucking God - it's over $50?

this can't be true - you attackers CAN'T be THIS pathetic can you? CAN YOU?
a scammer is a scammer, matter how much money is invovled

Sleazy you know this isn't right
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So if I rip you off, as long as its only for a few bucks is that cool with you?

I am not involved in this shit in any way -- but you mess with my money then that is a problem, be it $5 or $5,000.
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nah it's 900 $ from one guy alone ... but still a pathetic sum of money . At least grimshaw got like 15k ! lol
no fucking kidding!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Actually if I sent $50 to some1 and didn't get the product, I wouldn't spread it all over the board unless some1 really piss me off ...

a sponsor program in here made a mistake once ... and would owe me couple g's . I didn't make a big deal out of it

But the guy is a scumbag and needed to get more shit ... I can't beleive he's still arround !
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Doctor Dre isn't very happy that I did not give him the traffic he won in a recent contest.

After I checked and saw that he was just another one of the little lynch mob posters, I told him that he wasn't going to get any traffic from me. He didnt like that, at all.
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i dropped a $50 in the sally ann bin today actually and refused the sticker
and the 1000$ to cayne? How about the fact that Turbo lied for the entire day over 50$. Brand0n may have complained cuz he was out 50$, but Turbo was even more pathetic and couldn't refund it, instead lied for the entire day.

He hasn't even put his response on the Cayne thread - I'm sure there's reasons why.
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I will give them both 50 each to LEAVE us alone and stop SPAMMIN the board.................



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he's just a dick too.

i bought some sample traffic off him a while back. 50 bucks worth, if it did ok i was gonna byu alot more. but i only recieved about 10% of the hits.

i checked this with the counter on my page, and my stats script on my server.

i emailed him and he basically told me to fuck off.

so i'm not really surprised to hear that i'm not the only one.
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Doctor Dre isn't very happy that I did not give him the traffic he won in a recent contest.

After I checked and saw that he was just another one of the little lynch mob posters, I told him that he wasn't going to get any traffic from me. He didnt like that, at all.


You think I care about your traffic now ?

I just exposed the fact that you were a unprofetional, unetehical asshole and expected me to lick your ass like a little doggy for your 10k hits . It didn't went as you wanted and it turned agaisn't you . STFU and leave this business please . Go sell dog poo
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If the guy scams you for 50 $ imagine what he can do when you will give him 1000 ? :P
I just paypaled him $150.

we'll see if he sends me traffic

i'm curious as to how much that gets me and what kind of traffic it is.
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I just paypaled him $150.

we'll see if he sends me traffic


Let's see if he have the balls to rip you off
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STFU and leave this business please.
I am not like the countless fly-by-night traffic broker wannabes, that just drop out and come back with a new name and a new site.

I'm not going anywhere.

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It's not the price, it's the principle. Which is reason enough for him to get some shit about it.
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I am not like the countless fly-by-night traffic broker wannabes, that just drop out and come back with a new name and a new site.

I'm not going anywhere.



You leave and come back every few months, and get exposed again and again
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Aren't you the same guy that has a thread on page 1 about the PRINCIPLE of posting your children pictures, or bringing your children to events.....yet you can't accept the principle of him cheating Brand0n for 50$...and cayne for 1000$?
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Amybe I missed something here- but is all this 'scammer' stuff abotu turboface about $50 in traffic purchased?


if it is that is soooooo fucking sad i think I might want to puke and the people involved in the attack on him should be shot and pissed on and don't deserve to be in this game...

please tell me it's over more than $50 - please.... and dont' hand me this principle BULLSHIT.
Sleazy, you're here all the time, are you telling me you've missed the over dozen threads started the last three months that had people coming forward claiming they had not received the services they paid for from Turboface? I've also talked to many of his unsatisfied customers who don't even post on this board. Sure the amounts are small on some and not so on others, it all adds up.

I don't think he intentionally tried defrauding them, but he obviously has a cash flow problem and paying his own bills seems its taken priority over fulfilling his customers orders in the last six months. Its taken only a short time to ruin any reputation he had built up over the last couple of years. He continues to take new orders even though he has outstanding orders over 6 months that aren't even 10% fulfilled.

It would be like ordering a project from a web designer and giving him a three week deadline only to find out he had only made one graphic after three weeks because he had multiple excuses for the delay. He won't refund you, and continues to work at a snails pace with more excuses to the point where eventually his work becomes worthless to you and you have to write off your payment to him as a loss. Technically the designer would say he never scammed you because he was continuing to work on the order, even though his services are now worthless to you. When you order 100k in traffic you obviously have a specific purpose and campaign, when only a 100 hits a week come in your marketing plan for the traffic essentially becomes worthless.
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The real question is.. How pathetic are you for even careing. Its not your money, it doesn't involve you, so why do you care?
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Let's see if he have the balls to rip you off
doubt it
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Sleazy, you're here all the time, are you telling me you've missed the over dozen threads started the last three months that had people coming forward claiming they had not received the services they paid for from Turboface? I've also talked to many of his unsatisfied customers who don't even post on this board. Sure the amounts are small on some and not so on others, it all adds up.

I don't think he intentionally tried defrauding them, but he obviously has a cash flow problem and paying his own bills seems its taken priority over fulfilling his customers orders in the last six months. Its taken only a short time to ruin any reputation he had built up over the last couple of years. He continues to take new orders even though he has outstanding orders over 6 months that aren't even 10% fulfilled.

It would be like ordering a project from a web designer and giving him a three week deadline only to find out he had only made one graphic after three weeks because he had multiple excuses for the delay. He won't refund you, and continues to work at a snails pace with more excuses to the point where eventually his work becomes worthless to you and you have to write off your payment to him as a loss. Technically the designer would say he never scammed you because he was continuing to work on the order, even though his services are now worthless to you. When you order 100k in traffic you obviously have a specific purpose and campaign, when only a 100 hits a week come in your marketing plan for the traffic essentially becomes worthless.
people extend deadlines with me all the time, esp content producers. it's the adult biz and models flake out so i'm used to it and understand - traffic brokers have similar pressures. I don't pay for any more till they fulfill their contract. And I don't rely on just one person EVER for anything. I always have about 5-10 backup plans. it's just called smart business
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my god you people are complete and total patheric loosers - the more you post the worse you make yourselves look.


sooo sad. sooo fucking sad
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I don't understand why Dre would be mad over 10k hits, when he sent 42k to one of his sponsors by midday. This happened like last week or so. Correct me if i am wrong dre.

Its funny to me. 10k hits.


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one time i bought filtered UK traffic from turboface and sent it all to a dialer program. i actually felt bad for him because i made so much off it. he was honest with me at least.
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people extend deadlines with me all the time, esp content producers. it's the adult biz and models flake out so i'm used to it and understand - traffic brokers have similar pressures. I don't pay for any more till they fulfill their contract. And I don't rely on just one person EVER for anything. I always have about 5-10 backup plans. it's just called smart business
I'm well aware of the flaky side of the adult industry, but the analogy I posted above was a comparison with the full amount paid up front just as those did who paid for traffic. The option to pay as you go wasn't an option for those who bought traffic back in April from him and still haven't had their order filled. We all have back up plans, but we aren't talking about back up plans here, we're talking about not having the original plan's services fulfilled.
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Old 12-19-2004, 01:13 AM   #41
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I'm well aware of the flaky side of the adult industry, but the analogy I posted above was a comparison with the full amount paid up front just as those did who paid for traffic. The option to pay as you go wasn't an option for those who bought traffic back in April from him and still haven't had their order filled. We all have back up plans, but we aren't talking about back up plans here, we're talking about not having the original plan's services fulfilled.
i say again - $50 fucking dollars?? are you insane?
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i say again - $50 fucking dollars?? are you insane?
Are you blind? He ripped Cayne off for 1000$
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Old 12-19-2004, 01:15 AM   #43
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one time i bought filtered UK traffic from turboface and sent it all to a dialer program. i actually felt bad for him because i made so much off it. he was honest with me at least.
Again, how long ago was this? The issues people are having with him are fairly recent. There was a time when everyone talked about their positive experiences with Perfection Jeff and that all the complaints against him must not be legit, until it became obvious that he was no longer conducting business in the manner he used to when the amount of people that came forward became overwhelming.
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Again, how long ago was this? The issues people are having with him are fairly recent. There was a time when everyone talked about their positive experiences with Perfection Jeff and that all the complaints against him must not be legit, until it became obvious that he was no longer conducting business in the manner he used to when the amount of people that came forward became overwhelming.
yea this was about a year back...he was honest when his sources slowed up at least.
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i didn't really recognise any of the whinners - so i just sent him $150 and want to see for myself what happens, if he sends traffic - if he does what he says he does.
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i say again - $50 fucking dollars?? are you insane?
Sleazy, why in the fuck are you saying $50 fucking dollars? You must be insane not to have seen any of the more than dozen threads in the last three months with multiple people coming forward who got ripped off by turbo. Do your due diligence Sleazy before you mock those that say that they have been victimized, I'm sure this isn't the only board you read.
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i say again - $50 fucking dollars?? are you insane?
you think its ok to scam people if its just $50 bucks

thats really fucked up
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i didn't really recognise any of the whinners - so i just sent him $150 and want to see for myself what happens, if he sends traffic - if he does what he says he does.
If you had half a brain, you'd have not mentioned your order and bought under another name, Turbo isn't dumb, he'll put your order top priority.
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I wish Brand0n would have taken the time to maybe hit me up on ICQ or even email me, before he attacked me on here earlier on today. He did have a traffic campaign going, which he won from me in one of my traffic contests, from a while ago. My traffic has been slow in recent months, but I've got a whole bunch of it now.

If I indeed received a payment for traffic from him, and he requested a refund (which he never did), I would have given him whatever he would have been entitled to, which would have been not even $26.

With the suspicious, new nicks all attacking in unison today, it really makes you wonder..
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If you had half a brain, you'd have not mentioned your order and bought under another name, Turbo isn't dumb, he'll put your order top priority.
yup
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