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RedShoe · 12-17-2001, 09:02 PM

Ok, I have a serious question. A webmasters future lies in the balance of your answers.

How much money could a serious webmaster make in a year, starting at ground zero, with nothing?

Remember, her future depends on your answers, and don't you fuckin' lie to me!

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waste · 12-17-2001, 09:05 PM

i'll let you know in a year

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Wiredoctor · 12-17-2001, 09:06 PM

Redshoe, give us a few more details, like does this friend know the basics on how to build a gallery?? a tgp ?? or what this wil help us a bit for you.

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RedShoe · 12-17-2001, 09:09 PM

Yes she has a good design sense. More so than I've seen on some adult sites.

Rocky · 12-17-2001, 09:19 PM

so many variables

but i would hazard a guess at between 24k and 35k

these numbers should grow yearly with both hard work and more experience in the biz

SleazyDream · 12-17-2001, 09:23 PM

as much or as little as you want.

oscer · 12-17-2001, 09:27 PM

I submit a Shitty Gallery once every 3 days to a handfull of Select TGP sites and i make about 13000 a year off that its not nearly enough but if this person learned the ropes and Does some hard core Submitting they could make more then that im sure

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hottshot · 12-17-2001, 09:38 PM

between 5 and 10 grand the first year

SykkBoy · 12-17-2001, 09:43 PM

There are a lot of factors, but probably in the 18-20K range...now, if she has a "day job" to keep her normal bills paid and takes every dime she makes for the first six months and keeps re-investing in things like paid hosting, automation scripts, etc., she could do better. Her business sense would probably be more of a factor than design sense. Can she run this like a business? Can she keep bills paid while building her empire? These are very serious questions, if she wants to make a decent living in this business.

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^R3K^ · 12-17-2001, 10:13 PM

I would have to agree with most of the posts.. If she busts her ass she can make at in upwards of 45k.. but thats streaching it to far. i would shoot for under 20k a year. get her to set a goal and go for it, if she has someone to teach her the ropes and doesnt want to have a life the first 2 years and works hard she can make it.. but coming in fresh and not networking will leave you in total dissapointment.

titmowse · 12-17-2001, 10:14 PM

bringing more sheep into the dark fold eh shoey?

to put an exact figure on what an adult webmaster can make in their first year is like asking how long is a piece of string. there are so many factors and one formula doesn't work for everyone. if she works hard and has half the brain of these idiots, she'll make money.

BTW give your friend a hearty GFY in advance...

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SilverTab · 12-17-2001, 10:15 PM

I don't know much 'bout the money since I haven't been into this long enough to make any stats...But if you have RedShoe on your side, this is definitly a plus

This guy really gave me some good advices !

RedShoe · 12-17-2001, 10:25 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by titmowse:
if she works hard and has half the brain of these idiots, she'll make money.

BTW give your friend a hearty GFY in advance...

She seems like she'd take to this like a fish takes to water. And she also seems to understand business. And I've talked to her a couple of times... She has twice the brain.

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Exxxotica · 12-17-2001, 10:27 PM

It's really going to depend on a lot of factors.

How much time you have. You going to do gallery posting? Going to build a TGP, Going to build AVS, Free sites? Going to do all of it?

How fast do you catch on? Do you take the advice of others, do you research the ideas presented on the boards?

How much you have to invest in content and server space?

Put a decent amount of time into it, and experiment a lot, and I say that you can make $20-25k your first year depending on how fast you catch on. Then again, most people dont figure it out, quit and go back to their day jobs.

SNOW · 12-17-2001, 10:31 PM

It depends..Some people have huge skills and some never rely on people and vice versa..Skills can be taught though.To me one of the most important things is networking and making sure people like you..Learning how to rapp with people and creating a good repor with people..My sucess has come from people liking me and thats a fact..When I started i didnt even know what a URL was.. I didnt know jack shit..

So Red if she has a good personality and has the skilss i think she can do 40kPLUS for the first year..

When i started thats all i did was talk talk talk to people..

You can have great skills but if your an ass,No one will deal with you..I wish her the best and if she needs to ask me anything ? Shes more then welcome..

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TheFLY · 12-17-2001, 10:32 PM

Redshoe is her shoe-in to the biz...

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Satan · 12-17-2001, 10:34 PM

I think with a good plan, a good attitude and some support, there is no reason a webmaster shouldn't be able to make $50k+ easily in one year...

Best of luck.

Satan

kittykat69 · 12-17-2001, 10:50 PM

I think that there are too many sides to this industry it be able to give any certain figure,
also it can depend on thing like how motivated you are, how you network yourself etc.

personally i wouldn't know about starting from scracth coz I was lucky enough to have soemone hand me their 6 years work .

I think that somewhere between 25 - 50 K sounds reasonable if you are really going to go hard at it.

I'm sure with you, Red Shoe by side - it''ll all be sweet You're a great guy and always really helpful!
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Keev · 12-17-2001, 11:20 PM

25k is pretty easy as long as you stay some what disciplined and 35 - 50 if you bust your ass!

GTS Mark · 12-17-2001, 11:36 PM

Well to be completely honest I didn't start TGping until the 2nd week of October. And by the end of November I had received approximately $2k Canadian in cheques from my sponsors. Minus of course the bandwidth considerations and other associated costs.

And you have to remember here, I am pretty new to the scene as well. I don't honestly think you can live a lavish life the 1st year of this biz. But if you have a decent full time job and you do this on the side (Steady) you can make some really decent $$$.

I hope to anyways!

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BV · 12-17-2001, 11:48 PM

RedShoe,

I'll play devils advocate on that question,
Odds say she probably won't be in the biz in a year.
but if she can beat that hurdle and she does all of the networking and hard work and learns the ropes from friends all as mentioned above, she probably will be making 500 bucks a month clear by the end of her first year. and if she persists the numbers will just get bigger each and every month from there on out.

Peace and send her a welcome from me! :-)
BV

SixNine · 12-18-2001, 12:01 AM

I'll say $20K-$25K if she sticks with it... and uses her brain.

SixNine

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Macklol · 12-18-2001, 12:01 AM

I have been in the biz for about 3 years. First two years I wasted my time and made about 3k per. 2001 I started networking and found the right sponsers and have made about
10 times that and expect it to double or hopefully triple in 2002. If you work hard and don't waste time fucking around like I did the first two years I would say that she could make between 20-40K.

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playa · 12-18-2001, 12:13 AM

all newbie webmasters are 3 years late,,,
but some do get lucky and catch on real quick,,,

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TheFLY · 12-18-2001, 01:47 AM

If you're not in this biz because you love it to begin with -- then I think you're already doomed. Where is she???

I think Redshoe just wants to quit his special effects job :p

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Wiredoctor Confirmed User Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: The Great USA Posts: 1,632	Redshoe, give us a few more details, like does this friend know the basics on how to build a gallery?? a tgp ?? or what this wil help us a bit for you. ------------------ It's All About Clicks

12-17-2001, 09:09 PM	#4
RedShoe 赤い靴 call me 202-456-1111 Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: The Valley Posts: 14,831	Yes she has a good design sense. More so than I've seen on some adult sites.

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Rocky Confirmed User Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Living Off The Grid Posts: 3,022	so many variables but i would hazard a guess at between 24k and 35k these numbers should grow yearly with both hard work and more experience in the biz

12-17-2001, 09:23 PM	#6
SleazyDream I'm here for SPORT Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Phone # (401) 285-0696 Posts: 41,470	as much or as little as you want.

12-17-2001, 09:27 PM	#7
oscer Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Baltimore Posts: 2,834	I submit a Shitty Gallery once every 3 days to a handfull of Select TGP sites and i make about 13000 a year off that its not nearly enough but if this person learned the ropes and Does some hard core Submitting they could make more then that im sure You Gotta Factor in what the bills will be too ------------------ Stynk Adult Freehost FuckHost Freehosting Quik host Quality Affordable hosting Starting at .80 Per Gig ICQ 138476871

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hottshot Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: AZ Posts: 900	between 5 and 10 grand the first year

12-17-2001, 09:43 PM	#9
SykkBoy Jesus loves bacon Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: Sin City, Motherfucker Posts: 19,969	There are a lot of factors, but probably in the 18-20K range...now, if she has a "day job" to keep her normal bills paid and takes every dime she makes for the first six months and keeps re-investing in things like paid hosting, automation scripts, etc., she could do better. Her business sense would probably be more of a factor than design sense. Can she run this like a business? Can she keep bills paid while building her empire? These are very serious questions, if she wants to make a decent living in this business. ------------------ "It's all fun and games until somebody gets their scrotum caught in the door." ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Making Bank $1000 signup bonus, signup for Making Bank, then email me for details on collecting! Evil is as evil does Dark Dollars

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^R3K^ Confirmed User Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: North Carolina Posts: 2,815	I would have to agree with most of the posts.. If she busts her ass she can make at in upwards of 45k.. but thats streaching it to far. i would shoot for under 20k a year. get her to set a goal and go for it, if she has someone to teach her the ropes and doesnt want to have a life the first 2 years and works hard she can make it.. but coming in fresh and not networking will leave you in total dissapointment.

12-17-2001, 10:14 PM	#11
titmowse Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: TEXAS Posts: 5,320	bringing more sheep into the dark fold eh shoey? to put an exact figure on what an adult webmaster can make in their first year is like asking how long is a piece of string. there are so many factors and one formula doesn't work for everyone. if she works hard and has half the brain of these idiots, she'll make money. BTW give your friend a hearty GFY in advance... ------------------ love, tit learn search find

12-17-2001, 10:15 PM	#12
SilverTab Confirmed User Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: MTL Posts: 5,060	I don't know much 'bout the money since I haven't been into this long enough to make any stats...But if you have RedShoe on your side, this is definitly a plus This guy really gave me some good advices !

12-17-2001, 10:27 PM	#14
Exxxotica Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Oregun Posts: 4,396	It's really going to depend on a lot of factors. How much time you have. You going to do gallery posting? Going to build a TGP, Going to build AVS, Free sites? Going to do all of it? How fast do you catch on? Do you take the advice of others, do you research the ideas presented on the boards? How much you have to invest in content and server space? Put a decent amount of time into it, and experiment a lot, and I say that you can make $20-25k your first year depending on how fast you catch on. Then again, most people dont figure it out, quit and go back to their day jobs.

12-17-2001, 10:31 PM	#15
SNOW Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2001 Posts: 3,963	It depends..Some people have huge skills and some never rely on people and vice versa..Skills can be taught though.To me one of the most important things is networking and making sure people like you..Learning how to rapp with people and creating a good repor with people..My sucess has come from people liking me and thats a fact..When I started i didnt even know what a URL was.. I didnt know jack shit.. So Red if she has a good personality and has the skilss i think she can do 40kPLUS for the first year.. When i started thats all i did was talk talk talk to people.. You can have great skills but if your an ass,No one will deal with you..I wish her the best and if she needs to ask me anything ? Shes more then welcome.. Steve ------------------ Mafia of all Mafias.Now go whack yourself. JETDIALER.COM MAFIABUCKS--ComingSoon.. Vice President of Boneprone Familia ------------------

12-17-2001, 10:32 PM	#16
TheFLY So Fucking Banned Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: http://www.thefly.net/ --- Quit your job and live off steady traffic. Posts: 11,856	Redshoe is her shoe-in to the biz... ------------------ ...from the nectar of the Bone flows all that clicks...

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Satan Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Hell Posts: 1,626	I think with a good plan, a good attitude and some support, there is no reason a webmaster shouldn't be able to make $50k+ easily in one year... Best of luck. Satan

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Keev Confirmed User Join Date: May 2001 Posts: 5,335	25k is pretty easy as long as you stay some what disciplined and 35 - 50 if you bust your ass!

12-17-2001, 11:36 PM	#20
GTS Mark Vrume Mark Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Toronto, Canada Posts: 20,912	Well to be completely honest I didn't start TGping until the 2nd week of October. And by the end of November I had received approximately $2k Canadian in cheques from my sponsors. Minus of course the bandwidth considerations and other associated costs. And you have to remember here, I am pretty new to the scene as well. I don't honestly think you can live a lavish life the 1st year of this biz. But if you have a decent full time job and you do this on the side (Steady) you can make some really decent $$$. I hope to anyways! DrinkingHard ------------------ Tired of waiting weeks for your sponsor check to arrive through the slow and unreliable postal system? Check Out OffShore Clicks and get your own ATM card to access your money!!! If You Submit Galleries And Are Not Using Russian Submitter You Are Wasting Your Time. Get It Now!

12-17-2001, 11:48 PM	#21
BV wtf Industry Role: Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Bikini State, FL USA Posts: 10,914	RedShoe, I'll play devils advocate on that question, Odds say she probably won't be in the biz in a year. but if she can beat that hurdle and she does all of the networking and hard work and learns the ropes from friends all as mentioned above, she probably will be making 500 bucks a month clear by the end of her first year. and if she persists the numbers will just get bigger each and every month from there on out. Peace and send her a welcome from me! :-) BV

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SixNine Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: The Sea Town Posts: 1,357	I'll say $20K-$25K if she sticks with it... and uses her brain. SixNine ------------------ <A HREF="http://www.soulcash.com/content.htm" TARGET=_blank> </A>

12-18-2001, 12:01 AM	#23
Macklol Registered User Join Date: Nov 2001 Posts: 17	I have been in the biz for about 3 years. First two years I wasted my time and made about 3k per. 2001 I started networking and found the right sponsers and have made about 10 times that and expect it to double or hopefully triple in 2002. If you work hard and don't waste time fucking around like I did the first two years I would say that she could make between 20-40K. Macklol

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12-18-2001, 01:47 AM	#25
TheFLY So Fucking Banned Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: http://www.thefly.net/ --- Quit your job and live off steady traffic. Posts: 11,856	If you're not in this biz because you love it to begin with -- then I think you're already doomed. Where is she??? I think Redshoe just wants to quit his special effects job :p