Video Content Producers.. advice needed please - GoFuckYourself.com

OzMan · 04-14-2005, 12:48 PM

I need to shoot video in MPEG4 format for some mainstream stuff I'm playing with.

Would you recommend shooting in MPEG4 or regular miniDV and encoding to MPEG4 later?

I am looking to buy a prosumer type camcorder (recommendations? it will be outdoor stuff) with MPEG4 capability but thinking I will have to carry a stack of memory sticks if I shoot in MPEG4?

Thanks

AaronM · 04-14-2005, 01:03 PM

Why would you limit yourself by shooting anything in MPEG4?

Shoot it on MiniDV then you have raw/high end footage for your current needs or any future ones.

As for camera suggestions....Do you have a price range in mind?

ProjectNaked · 04-14-2005, 01:11 PM

shoot it straight m/dv and then encode to what you want. If you want good low-light go sony vx2100 - If you need a little better zoom, go Cannon GL2. I use both and both are A+ - you can get them new for $2500+/- or ebay used for $1800+/- -- there are also lots of accessories available for both.

OzMan · 04-14-2005, 01:29 PM

I thought it would save encoding time later recording in MPEG4 but yeah I wouldn't want to limit myself since preferred formats seem to change.

Price around $2000. Checking out the 2100 and the GL2 now

PhotoGreggXXX · 04-14-2005, 01:49 PM

always shoot in the minidv full res. Next year mpeg4 might be old news and windows 10, 11 and 12 will come out, you'll need the avi format to re-encode

AaronM · 04-14-2005, 01:51 PM

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Originally Posted by OzMan

I thought it would save encoding time later recording in MPEG4 but yeah I wouldn't want to limit myself since preferred formats seem to change.

Price around $2000. Checking out the 2100 and the GL2 now

Then grab a Sony VX2100 while you still can. The zoom factor is not a big enough difference to justify the quality loss of going with the GL2. We are shooting up close porn and not wildlife videos afterall.

OzMan · 04-14-2005, 02:07 PM

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Originally Posted by AaronM

Then grab a Sony VX2100 while you still can. The zoom factor is not a big enough difference to justify the quality loss of going with the GL2. We are shooting up close porn and not wildlife videos afterall.

Actually mine will be mostly outdoor nature and sports stuff so the zoom will be a factor. Would you go with the Sony and add a better zoom(if that's possible) or the Canon?

tony286 · 04-14-2005, 02:14 PM

dvx100a all the way

AaronM · 04-14-2005, 02:18 PM

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Originally Posted by OzMan

Actually mine will be mostly outdoor nature and sports stuff so the zoom will be a factor. Would you go with the Sony and add a better zoom(if that's possible) or the Canon?

That's up to you. The Sony has a 12x optical zoom and the Canon has 20. The Sony has larger CCD's and does better in low light. These two factors impact quality.

My personal opinion is that the GL2 is a peice of shit and there is a reason that more Adult companies go with the Sony.

Most people who own a GL2 and like it have never owned the Sony or worked with it much so it's not a fair comparison for them to make. I have used both quite a bit.

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EROTEEK · 04-14-2005, 02:20 PM

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Originally Posted by tony404

dvx100a all the way

..listen to da man...he knows what he sez...

OzMan · 04-14-2005, 02:24 PM

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Originally Posted by AlienQ

Ozman I know what your onto hit me up on ICQ I been thinking the same thing.

ICQ: 78943384

UMD.

get out of my head dammit.

hitting you up now

AaronM · 04-14-2005, 02:24 PM

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Originally Posted by tony404

dvx100a all the way

Shitty in lower light and only 10x optical zoom.

OzMan · 04-14-2005, 02:24 PM

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Originally Posted by AaronM

That's up to you. The Sony has a 12x optical zoom and the Canon has 20. The Sony has larger CCD's and does better in low light. These two factors impact quality.

My personal opinion is that the GL2 is a peice of shit and there is a reason that more Adult companies go with the Sony.

Most people who own a GL2 and like it have never owned the Sony or worked with it much so it's not a fair comparison for them to make. I have used both quite a bit.

gotcha thanks

EROTEEK · 04-14-2005, 02:32 PM

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Originally Posted by AaronM

Shitty in lower light and only 10x optical zoom.

yep..sure..we shot porn all day long in lower light, and also, the well known safary-porn, where we need to hide in da bush and shoot those bitches strolling on top of that hill over there... well, i would give that anytime for image quality, real life colours, CineGama, oh, and i forgot what progressive means... musta be something also...

AaronM · 04-14-2005, 02:38 PM

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Originally Posted by EROTEEK

yep..sure..we shot porn all day long in lower light, and also, the well known safary-porn, where we need to hide in da bush and shoot those bitches strolling on top of that hill over there... well, i would give that anytime for image quality, real life colours, CineGama, oh, and i forgot what progressive means... musta be something also...

Perhaps if you read the entire thread then you would know his needs are for larger zoom and outdoor use....Not well lit porn studio use.

Try paying attention instead of kissing Tony's ass.

EROTEEK · 04-14-2005, 02:43 PM

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Originally Posted by AaronM

Perhaps if you read the entire thread then you would know his needs are for larger zoom and outdoor use....Not well lit porn studio use.

Try paying attention instead of kissing Tony's ass.

upps, sorry, my bad...but...who's Tony ?

AaronM · 04-14-2005, 02:59 PM

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Originally Posted by tony404

dvx100a all the way

Originally Posted by EROTEEK
..listen to da man...he knows what he sez...

Who's Tony?

EROTEEK · 04-14-2005, 03:10 PM

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Originally Posted by AaronM

Who's Tony?

OH, well, i don't know Tony, never spoke with Tony, not even paid attention that post was from a "Tony", i just think the Pana kicks Sony's ass anytime, at least for the VX2100 for sure, but even for PD150, PD170... that's just my opinion... as for ass kissing... i usually kiss only those asses i really like, and the owner must do something real good to me to deserve that...

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OzMan Confirmed User Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Los Begas Posts: 9,162	Video Content Producers.. advice needed please I need to shoot video in MPEG4 format for some mainstream stuff I'm playing with. Would you recommend shooting in MPEG4 or regular miniDV and encoding to MPEG4 later? I am looking to buy a prosumer type camcorder (recommendations? it will be outdoor stuff) with MPEG4 capability but thinking I will have to carry a stack of memory sticks if I shoot in MPEG4? Thanks

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AaronM Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: ┌∩┐ ◣_◢ ┌∩┐ Posts: 46,909	Why would you limit yourself by shooting anything in MPEG4? Shoot it on MiniDV then you have raw/high end footage for your current needs or any future ones. As for camera suggestions....Do you have a price range in mind?

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ProjectNaked Confirmed User Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Detroit Areola Posts: 4,309	shoot it straight m/dv and then encode to what you want. If you want good low-light go sony vx2100 - If you need a little better zoom, go Cannon GL2. I use both and both are A+ - you can get them new for $2500+/- or ebay used for $1800+/- -- there are also lots of accessories available for both.

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OzMan Confirmed User Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Los Begas Posts: 9,162	I thought it would save encoding time later recording in MPEG4 but yeah I wouldn't want to limit myself since preferred formats seem to change. Price around $2000. Checking out the 2100 and the GL2 now

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