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Nicky · 05-03-2005, 04:29 AM

100 sell outs

Nicky · 05-03-2005, 04:45 AM

where is Mike/webair in this thread??

Taboo · 05-03-2005, 04:48 AM

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Originally Posted by slavdogg

>> totally opposite
Thats my exact point, however i dont think anything is opposite here.
If the domain stays in its present form or if WebAir starts selling VOIP or computer parts or dial up service or gay midgets there are no Unfair biz practices here or any form of common law TM infringement. All these isssues will arise however once webair.com is linked from nationalnet.com

>> they could get on the supplemental registry and then move it over to the principal registry.
I dont think they would quality for a supplemental registry, they would go str8 to the principal registry.

2 Companies with an indentical name CAN conexist as long as they're both not selling the same product. Simple as that IMO

just my

I see the point you are trying to make... and I know where you stand when it comes to UDRP

but webair didn't think this through... if they were trying to be sly they should have made a stealth-play for the domain and created a new ID at Afternic. they had plenty of time to do that if you look at the offer history:
http://www.afternic.com/bidhist.php?id=523916

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nationalnet.com Offer History

Amount Time Username Status Expires

5,000.00 04/27/2005 05:13 pm EDT webair Accepted 05/04/2005 05:13 pm EDT
1,200.00 04/20/2005 04:31 pm EDT webair Expired 04/27/2005 04:31 pm EDT

A week passes by between their bids and they don't create a new ID to avoid all this mess? WTF were they thinking? They didn't even attempt to play it smart. Perhaps they were looking at this from another angle... maybe they wanted the world to know that they bought the domain.

And most importantly Slav, even if webair finds someway to keep the domain, they will feel the backlash one way or another... the longer they keep it, the worse they look in potential/current customers eyes. I for one would never use their services now, especially for registering domains... perhaps that's just me or maybe I'm the only one that's publically saying it... how many others are out there thinking this was ethically-underhanded and will switch away from webair in disgust?

Either way, it will be very interesting to see how this plays out... so pass the popcorn.

pradaboy · 05-03-2005, 04:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nicky

where is Mike/webair in this thread??

he isn't... probably still figuring out what he can do to keep the damage minimal

Lee · 05-03-2005, 05:51 AM

Must be about time for a Natnet promo for existing webair clients ;)

European Lee · 05-03-2005, 10:20 AM

It has to be said that we're real happy with how the transition from Webair > NatNet is being handled so far by NatNets tech guys

Regards,

Lee

Gator · 05-03-2005, 10:34 AM

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Originally Posted by slavdogg

from where i'm sitting and no Trademark for NationalNet
there are a lot of things WebAir can do with the domain name and not have a UDRP dispute.
well pretty much everything under the sun except selling webhosting in adult industry.

Yeah, but they'd be doing it just to be pricks and screw Tony. Stupid move IMO.

pradaboy · 05-03-2005, 10:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by European Lee

It has to be said that we're real happy with how the transition from Webair > NatNet is being handled so far by NatNets tech guys

Regards,

Lee

I'd be allover NN too if I had the BW usage for it... my business isn't about BW anymore so I spread my stuff over different virtual accounts.

If I ever go dedicated again it will be with NN or ISPrime.

kmanrox · 05-03-2005, 11:01 AM

hehe it's obvious that Lee gets discounted hosting from Natnet, aint it?

the ONE thread that there's a chance to finally find a fault with the #1 host, undisputed on the adult web, of course you're going to take advantage.. i dont fault you, but i do want to make certain everyone knows you have a hidden agenda.

European Lee · 05-03-2005, 11:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Hedonistic

hehe it's obvious that Lee gets discounted hosting from Natnet, aint it?

the ONE thread that there's a chance to finally find a fault with the #1 host, undisputed on the adult web, of course you're going to take advantage.. i dont fault you, but i do want to make certain everyone knows you have a hidden agenda.

We've hosted with Net Net for 2 years happily.

We've hosted at Webair for 5 years happily.

Mike was obviously snorting coke last night when he made those threats to Gary and myself, we dont take threats to likely so re-evaluated our business decision as to which companies we spend money on hosting with.

Nat Net is costing us more than we had (at a discounted rate) at Webair, sometimes, when the owner of a company acts like a complete crack head, things must be acted upon.

If Mike wanted to keep our business, he shouldnt have given us a veiled ultimatum.

SweetT IS a standup guy who we have known much longer than Mike, we simply stated this on a public forum and Mikes (apparent) drug enduced state got the better of him, his loss, not mine.

There is nothing more to it than that.

We'd rather host with a stable company who's owner isnt prone to mood swings comparable to that of a junkie.

Regards,

Lee

pradaboy · 05-03-2005, 12:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hedonistic

hehe it's obvious that Lee gets discounted hosting from Natnet, aint it?

the ONE thread that there's a chance to finally find a fault with the #1 host, undisputed on the adult web, of course you're going to take advantage.. i dont fault you, but i do want to make certain everyone knows you have a hidden agenda.

common Kman, do you believe any of the shit you're spouting off here?

first of all on what fact do you make your declaration that webair is the #1 host in adult? Second of all "to finally find a fault"... dude seriously, the countless webair sucks and webair = down threads do not weigh up to the one or two "what happened to NN" threads or what about the *ZERO* threads about ISPrime? Webair #1 my ass. Mike talked me into reviewing WA and I'm doing so, but that doesn't mean you can make baseless and false posts

European Lee · 05-03-2005, 12:58 PM

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Originally Posted by pradaboy

common Kman, do you believe any of the shit you're spouting off here?

You know, i would like to think he is doing this as a satisfied customer of theirs and, if thats the case then fine i hae no problems with that whatsoever, we supported Webair when we were with them too.

Ill not be supporting them anymore, as far as i am concerned right now, as a host, as friends and as business collegues, they are dead to me.

Regards,

Lee

Rui · 05-03-2005, 01:32 PM

Webair #1 Adult Host = joke of the year...

sextoyking · 05-03-2005, 02:53 PM

There is only '1' WORD to describe Tony - That word is:

CLASS

Plain and simple - take that to the bank and cash it...

Forget the best host, etc, etc, etc.

Sweet T is classy and Hugely respected in our industry..

Enough said, there can be no more to say....

Brad Mitchell · 05-03-2005, 03:49 PM

I feel like such a chump.

I was looking for new domain names not too long ago and saw that NationalNet.com was for sale. I figured it was just some prick speculator that owned it and out of principle Tony wasn't interested because he didn't need to be. Didn't cross my mind they might have been unaware of the domain's status.

In retrospect, I'm thinking I should have bought it as a gift or at least taken a few minutes to call them and let them know it was for sale. I think NatNet's shown me at least that much hospitality over the last few years.. and I'm a competitor. Now that's class!

Tony, Matt, Kathi and Andrew are some of the finest people I've ever had the pleasure of spending time with in the industry. I don't think there is a single legitimate reason why Webair purchased the domain. That being said, I would look forward to seeing them trying to use it in commerce. Tony's lawyers would eat this guy for breakfast, out of principle.

If nothing else, karma has it's own special way of dealing with bad people.

lol

Brad

European Lee · 05-03-2005, 06:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brad Mitchell

I feel like such a chump.

Well you at the perfect place to find one

Oh, that isnt what you meant, my bad

Regards,

Lee

Peaches · 05-03-2005, 06:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sextoyking

There is only '1' WORD to describe Tony - That word is:

CLASS

Plain and simple - take that to the bank and cash it...

Forget the best host, etc, etc, etc.

Sweet T is classy and Hugely respected in our industry..

Enough said, there can be no more to say....

Ditto, ditto and ditto!!

European Lee · 05-03-2005, 08:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Peaches

Ditto, ditto and ditto!!

What Peaches said

Regards,

Lee

Tat2Jr · 05-03-2005, 09:19 PM

I've been with National Net for so long that when i give my account number to whoever's on the phone they usually will comment on how low it is. Top notch from day one. Through good times and bad - they were the solid constent. I have virtual accounts spread out for class c's, but for the stuff that matters it's National Net.

Steen2 · 05-03-2005, 09:29 PM

National Net needs to obtain the domain from Webair as it looks like trademark infringement.

simple simon · 05-03-2005, 09:41 PM

webair the #1 undisputed host in adult?

thats some funny shit right there, they cant hold a fucking candle to the likes of ISPrime or NatNet.

EviLGuY · 05-03-2005, 10:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nicky

where is Mike/webair in this thread??

He is mysteriously absent. I'm not sure what they were thinking.. not a very classy move, imho.

European Lee · 05-03-2005, 10:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by EviLGuY

He is mysteriously absent. I'm not sure what they were thinking.. not a very classy move, imho.

Theres nothing mysterious about it IMHO.

He knows he fucked up big time, in more ways than one, theres nothing he can really do to change that so there is no point in him replying

Regards,

Lee

basschick · 05-04-2005, 01:33 AM

i can't believe they'd be this stupid - we all know ya can't buy a domain with an existing business' name and expect to run the same kind of business. at least, not for long...

what were they thinking?!??!??!?!

Taboo · 05-04-2005, 03:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by European Lee

Theres nothing mysterious about it IMHO.

He knows he fucked up big time, in more ways than one, theres nothing he can really do to change that so there is no point in him replying

Regards,

Lee

Perhaps they're trying to figure out how to flip this domain to someone else... I'd be real suspect if WebAir came to me trying to flip NationalNet.com - I'd wonder why the hell they owned it and what was compelling them to sell it so fast... I wouldn't want to be part of any potential lawsuits...

...so basically webair is screwed. the damage is done, even if WebAir gets rid of the domain and NN never gets it's hands on it... we all see how WebAir conducts business and this thread lives on forever.

Perhaps, an apology from Webair would smooth things out or blaming some intern for buying the name without management approval... hard to believe, but better than remaining silent (which is probably what their lawyers are advising them to do after yelling at them for such a stupid move)

pradaboy · 05-04-2005, 12:40 PM

this deserves a bump

European Lee · 05-04-2005, 01:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pradaboy

this deserves a bump

Regards,

Lee

European Lee · 05-06-2005, 03:44 PM

Here's another bump for Webscum.

Regards,

Lee

makefuckingmoney · 05-06-2005, 04:05 PM

If I had seen nationalnet.com for sale anywhere..I would have just purchased the domain and given it to tony as a gift.

National net has sponsored more industry events than probably any other company I can think of..CCbill and National Net probably take care of more webmasters at conventions than the rest of the companies combined.

I really cant believe this thread even exists.. its mind boggling.

Theo · 05-06-2005, 04:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fris

http://www.passwordsearch.org/ hosted by national-net.com

i can give you more

webair hosted and still hosts the largest traffic hijacking that took place in industry

isearch.com

pxxx · 05-06-2005, 04:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DrinkingHard

Are your referring to the buyout National Net made of another webhosting company last year? If that is what you're talking about, I call that smart business and retention...

It's alot easier sometime to ask for forgiveness than ask for permission ;)

DH

Sometimes DH? Shit, it is alot easier EVERYtime to ask for forgiveness than permission. This is in a good way too. When you ask for permission, people immediately think you owe them something.

pradaboy · 05-07-2005, 09:27 AM

gideongallery · 05-10-2005, 12:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SweetT

Hey Guys....

I think this is hilarious...but so that there are no misunderstandings, we checked on buying the nationalnet.com domain years and years ago but it was not for sale and it was used by a Canadian guy to talk about his Marching Band so it was not a big deal. If I find that a webhost has bought it and is linking it to a web hosting site well that is a whole different issue that I guess I would need to discuss with my Intellectual Property Attorney's.

But...needless to say we are not going anywhere and in fact we have some very cool announcements coming up when we see everyone is Montreal!!!

--T

can't seem to find a national net trademark

CreepyMusic · 05-16-2005, 04:43 AM

Any news on this?

William-Xfactor · 05-16-2005, 06:06 AM

Why do people find this surprising webair host pibcash after all

Donny · 05-19-2005, 11:34 PM

Does Nat Net have this domain yet, or are the webair peeps still being morons?

SweetT · 05-20-2005, 06:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DonovanPhillips

Does Nat Net have this domain yet, or are the webair peeps still being morons?

Actually Mike and I had a nice conversation this week and it looks like things are going to work out very nicely. Now I know why so many people on this board think so highly of him.

Normally once a domain transfer's you have to wait 60 days to transfer it again so it may take a few weeks before you hear a resolution, but I am confident that it will all be worked out and that everyone will be smiling and one big happy family.

--T

Rick Latona · 05-20-2005, 06:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SweetT

Actually Mike and I had a nice conversation this week and it looks like things are going to work out very nicely. Now I know why so many people on this board think so highly of him.

Normally once a domain transfer's you have to wait 60 days to transfer it again so it may take a few weeks before you hear a resolution, but I am confident that it will all be worked out and that everyone will be smiling and one big happy family.

--T

That's good news, Tony.

CDSmith · 05-20-2005, 06:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SweetT

Hey Guys....

I think this is hilarious...but so that there are no misunderstandings, we checked on buying the nationalnet.com domain years and years ago but it was not for sale and it was used by a Canadian guy to talk about his Marching Band so it was not a big deal. If I find that a webhost has bought it and is linking it to a web hosting site well that is a whole different issue that I guess I would need to discuss with my Intellectual Property Attorney's.

But...needless to say we are not going anywhere and in fact we have some very cool announcements coming up when we see everyone is Montreal!!!

--T

I stopped reading this thread at this post. Can't imagine what else needed to be said here.

Odie · 05-20-2005, 07:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SweetT

Actually Mike and I had a nice conversation this week and it looks like things are going to work out very nicely. Now I know why so many people on this board think so highly of him.

Normally once a domain transfer's you have to wait 60 days to transfer it again so it may take a few weeks before you hear a resolution, but I am confident that it will all be worked out and that everyone will be smiling and one big happy family.

--T

yayayayay!!!!!!! I'm so happy to hear!! glad that everything is working itself out!

There's no need to make things more complicated than they already are or need to be..

WiredGuy · 05-20-2005, 09:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SweetT

Actually Mike and I had a nice conversation this week and it looks like things are going to work out very nicely. Now I know why so many people on this board think so highly of him.

Normally once a domain transfer's you have to wait 60 days to transfer it again so it may take a few weeks before you hear a resolution, but I am confident that it will all be worked out and that everyone will be smiling and one big happy family.

--T

Congrats on a resolution Tony

Celebrate with some cake, hehe.
WG

DomBuyer · 05-20-2005, 09:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SweetT

Actually Mike and I had a nice conversation this week and it looks like things are going to work out very nicely. Now I know why so many people on this board think so highly of him.

Normally once a domain transfer's you have to wait 60 days to transfer it again so it may take a few weeks before you hear a resolution, but I am confident that it will all be worked out and that everyone will be smiling and one big happy family.

--T

Good news

CDSmith · 05-20-2005, 10:02 AM

Looking forward to this year's NFL pool, that's all I know.

And that's all that really matters here. :D

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Brad Mitchell Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Southfield, MI Posts: 9,812	I feel like such a chump. I was looking for new domain names not too long ago and saw that NationalNet.com was for sale. I figured it was just some prick speculator that owned it and out of principle Tony wasn't interested because he didn't need to be. Didn't cross my mind they might have been unaware of the domain's status. In retrospect, I'm thinking I should have bought it as a gift or at least taken a few minutes to call them and let them know it was for sale. I think NatNet's shown me at least that much hospitality over the last few years.. and I'm a competitor. Now that's class! Tony, Matt, Kathi and Andrew are some of the finest people I've ever had the pleasure of spending time with in the industry. I don't think there is a single legitimate reason why Webair purchased the domain. That being said, I would look forward to seeing them trying to use it in commerce. Tony's lawyers would eat this guy for breakfast, out of principle. If nothing else, karma has it's own special way of dealing with bad people. lol Brad __________________ President at MojoHost \| brad at mojohost dot com \| Skype MojoHostBrad 71 industry awards for hosting and professional excellence since 1999

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