GREG From SICCASH Falsely Accused Me Of Fraud!! - Page 3 - GoFuckYourself.com

Huggles · 05-04-2005, 07:02 PM

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SureFire · 05-04-2005, 07:39 PM

Sic Cash give him the money, he needs to go to the gym. It appears that he doesn't have to money to do so.

Help out the out shape no muscle male content.

tical · 05-04-2005, 08:19 PM

I don't follow, how is he responsible for a signup someone else clicks through his website to see?

People cancel trials all of the time, just because you have a little "more info" (he's banged her) on why she bought a trial in the first place doesn't mean there is some elaborate scheme going on.

The girl wanted to see 1 video, she tried the site out, she cancelled. Happens all the time. What is the problem? How is it fraud? Are word of mouth sales no longer allowed in this industry?

5 or 10 joins, sure possible fraudulent activity / scheme. 1 fucking join at a low ratio and your flags go off? Its instantly fraud because he knew the person? C'mon guys, its a small world... you should have let it pan out just a little longer to find out what was really going on.

Automated software can't be right all of the time.

Barefootsies · 05-04-2005, 08:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Headless

drama????????

popcorn?

Pipecrew · 05-04-2005, 08:44 PM

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Originally Posted by SmokeyTheBear

When i mentioned that all sponsors should allow test signups ( without prior notification ) i didn't mention , that if an affilaite does do this it's under the affiliates obligation to contact the sponsor and let them know within 48 hours that they did a "test" signup , because lets be realistic , a test signup is worthless with "notification".

That being said this wasn't a "test signup" or a fraud , but more of a misunderstanding

You wouldnt believe how many people I bust days after for signing up under their own account, then they scream "TEST SALE!!!!!!!!!!!" I think i might of only ever got two emails from people telling me they did a test sale, and I already knew about it, and that was fine.

BradShaw · 05-04-2005, 08:44 PM

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Originally Posted by PR_Tom

Not being a webmaster, you obviously didn't realise that one hit + one sale + one cancellation = flagged for fraud investigation.

Now you do.

The End.

Shhhh, do not give away all the PPS programs high end fraud procedures;-)

Kimmykim · 05-04-2005, 09:30 PM

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Originally Posted by tical

I don't follow, how is he responsible for a signup someone else clicks through his website to see?

People cancel trials all of the time, just because you have a little "more info" (he's banged her) on why she bought a trial in the first place doesn't mean there is some elaborate scheme going on.

The girl wanted to see 1 video, she tried the site out, she cancelled. Happens all the time. What is the problem? How is it fraud? Are word of mouth sales no longer allowed in this industry?

5 or 10 joins, sure possible fraudulent activity / scheme. 1 fucking join at a low ratio and your flags go off? Its instantly fraud because he knew the person? C'mon guys, its a small world... you should have let it pan out just a little longer to find out what was really going on.

Automated software can't be right all of the time.

One hit, one sale, one cancellation, one guy in the video, one girl in the video.

What part of that doesn't scream fraud to you?

LittleMack · 05-04-2005, 09:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Lenny2

Holy crap that is old school....been a year since I saw this.

tical · 05-04-2005, 10:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Kimmykim

One hit, one sale, one cancellation, one guy in the video, one girl in the video.

What part of that doesn't scream fraud to you?

If the scenario was as he says it:

Girl: Had fun working with you a while back, can I see your first video?
Zane: Yea go to my website and signup for a trial to "whateversite", its on there.
Girl: Ok

1 visit, 1 signup, 1 trial cancellation

How is that fraud? I understand the fraud FLAG, but to just jack the guy for his comission and say it screams fraud for refering someone to the site seems a little shitty. Just because she knew to cancel her trial (she does do porn afterall) doesn't mean he TOLD her to do so.

Ah well whatever, it doesn't matter anymore either way... i'm sure the TOS covers this.

pussyluver · 05-04-2005, 10:07 PM

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pussyluver · 05-04-2005, 10:09 PM

Sorry didn't see delete post fast enough....

seeric · 05-04-2005, 10:10 PM

so all this is really over about 1.95 cents?

if they even pay out on the trial, i don't know or want to spend the time reading the whole thing.

SmokeyTheBear · 05-04-2005, 10:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Pipecrew

You wouldnt believe how many people I bust days after for signing up under their own account, then they scream "TEST SALE!!!!!!!!!!!" I think i might of only ever got two emails from people telling me they did a test sale, and I already knew about it, and that was fine.

Well there will always be scammers i suppose , but if a webmaster has sent sales it just wouldn't make sense to try to slip a "self" sale in with them.. but i dont doubt it happens.. You would be suprised how many webmasters think this is acceptable without telling the sponsor after.. In theory i suppose they think it's not going to hurt the sponsor , but your right if every affiliate did this it would..

The moral of the story...

Send so many sales to your sponsors , one "test" signup wouldnt even phase them..

sonofsam · 05-04-2005, 11:44 PM

Kimmykim · 05-04-2005, 11:47 PM

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Originally Posted by tical

If the scenario was as he says it:

Girl: Had fun working with you a while back, can I see your first video?
Zane: Yea go to my website and signup for a trial to "whateversite", its on there.
Girl: Ok

1 visit, 1 signup, 1 trial cancellation

How is that fraud? I understand the fraud FLAG, but to just jack the guy for his comission and say it screams fraud for refering someone to the site seems a little shitty. Just because she knew to cancel her trial (she does do porn afterall) doesn't mean he TOLD her to do so.

Ah well whatever, it doesn't matter anymore either way... i'm sure the TOS covers this.

If I recall anywhere near correctly from the beginning of the thread, zane said he already had user passes to the site. If the girl wanted to see the scene, why wouldn't he have just given it to her so she could see it?

Makes no sense to me at all.

I don't think zane was deliberately trying to scam SIC, which is probably why Greg was more inquisitive than threatening in his email. But the whole thing just doesn't make sense.

CybermedAndy · 05-05-2005, 12:00 AM

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Originally Posted by sonofsam

3 pages and no monkey pics yet?

schiz · 05-05-2005, 12:22 AM

a friend of mine got his account shut off for "fraud." didn't make any sense though. he just cut his losses and moved on.

Mighty Chin · 05-05-2005, 10:03 AM

You people are being way too nasty to our little Hobbit friend! Just remember that he's got a gang to back him up. Huggles beware!

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tical Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Las Vegas Posts: 6,504	I don't follow, how is he responsible for a signup someone else clicks through his website to see? People cancel trials all of the time, just because you have a little "more info" (he's banged her) on why she bought a trial in the first place doesn't mean there is some elaborate scheme going on. The girl wanted to see 1 video, she tried the site out, she cancelled. Happens all the time. What is the problem? How is it fraud? Are word of mouth sales no longer allowed in this industry? 5 or 10 joins, sure possible fraudulent activity / scheme. 1 fucking join at a low ratio and your flags go off? Its instantly fraud because he knew the person? C'mon guys, its a small world... you should have let it pan out just a little longer to find out what was really going on. Automated software can't be right all of the time. __________________ 112.020.756

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