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Old 05-04-2005, 10:13 AM   #1
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Pagerank ain't nothing baby

After my recent saddening that my site had dropped off Google's top ten and my pagerank had been reduced to PR1 I am slightly confused.

On MSN my site was always mid 50s, very poor. Suddenly i've shot up to become #2 on all my key terms. Am I doing something right or is MSN just giving google the finger?
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Old 05-04-2005, 10:25 AM   #2
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how you've got this far thinking that pagerank has something to do with MSN, I'll never know
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Old 05-04-2005, 10:27 AM   #3
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I know pagerank has nothing to do with MSN, what i'm saying is it appears very odd that MSN has altered my results so positively when I haven't changed that much and google downgraded me so much
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Old 05-04-2005, 10:33 AM   #4
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Different SE's have different algorithms. THings that can get you penalized in google will help you out somewhere else.
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Old 05-04-2005, 10:38 AM   #5
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Yeah true, I am noticing the MSN traffic converts slightly better than google at the moment. Though I'm pissed because google runs AOL UK's search and that was great for affiliate business and escorts
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Old 05-04-2005, 11:51 AM   #6
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It's just coincidence, google/pr have nothing to do with msn
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Old 05-04-2005, 01:02 PM   #7
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Which gets more traffic, msn or google?
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Old 05-04-2005, 01:04 PM   #8
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its a consporacy against the pornographers!
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Old 05-04-2005, 01:36 PM   #9
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Which gets more traffic, msn or google?
obviously google, but MSNS seems to attract more newbs...fresh meat for affil programs
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Old 05-04-2005, 02:00 PM   #10
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Lalalalala.

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Old 05-04-2005, 02:01 PM   #11
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Well, a couple of days ago, MSN had a major update, that's all.
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Old 05-04-2005, 02:55 PM   #12
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MSN can be a bit bizarre but apparently, what sets off yellow (or red) flags with Google won't necessarily on MSN ... and vice versa. So if you made a change recently, apparently MSN approves and Google doesn't. Sorry if it's a lame response but w/o more details ....
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Old 05-04-2005, 02:57 PM   #13
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Either way, good for you that MSN improved when you needed it to.
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Old 05-04-2005, 04:04 PM   #14
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obviously google, but MSNS seems to attract more newbs...fresh meat for affil programs
msn gets much more traffic then google
just about everyone's IE opens to msn.com by default
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Old 05-04-2005, 04:09 PM   #15
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I get more hits from msn then yahoo and google. Not as productive though
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Old 05-04-2005, 04:39 PM   #16
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Yahoo and MSN have been climbing for me as well.

PR (for G) seems to be less directly (although still related) associated with SE traffic. I have seen PR go down on a site, but the traffic remained steady or increased. PR is just one factor in determining who gets to see you in the SERPs.

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Old 05-04-2005, 04:56 PM   #17
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I had some very awesome keywords coming up in the top 10 on MSN. All of a suddent the traffic fucking stopped. One day it was there. The next there was nothing.

I finally figured out what happened, more than a week later.









...but I'm not tellin'....

MSN is very good traffic but you gotta learn how to play their game.
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Old 05-04-2005, 06:52 PM   #18
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Old 05-04-2005, 08:13 PM   #19
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Dont kid yourself, Google is vastly ahead of the other search engines in terms of popularity and traffic.
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Old 05-04-2005, 08:20 PM   #20
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Well it has hurt my traffic a bit getting knocked down a notch
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Old 05-04-2005, 08:22 PM   #21
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Is there a tool to watch keywords on google?
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Old 05-04-2005, 09:12 PM   #22
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Is there a tool to watch keywords on google?
http://www.digitalpoint.com/tools/keywords/

Better yet, one that manages all 3 (Yahoo, MSN, Google)
The basic setup manages keywords on Google only - in order to track MSN/Yahoo you'll need to add a PHP script to your site. It's harmless and no config is necessary ... all in all, an awesome tool and highly recommended.

Oh, yes and FREE.

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