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05-04-2005, 07:15 PM

What are the best ways to protect a paysite's "Members Area" from getting stolen and preventing theft?

Videos/Pictures/Passwords/etc...

Other than DRM, what is available?

I look forward to informative replies.

Thanks in advance!

Pimp Dough
[email protected]

European Lee · 05-04-2005, 07:39 PM

Ask the guys at National Net

Regards,

Lee

BV · 05-04-2005, 07:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pimp Dough

What are the best ways to protect a paysite's "Members Area" from getting stolen and preventing theft?

Videos/Pictures/Passwords/etc...

Other than DRM, what is available?

I look forward to informative replies.

Thanks in advance!

Pimp Dough
[email protected]

do you mean as in other webmasters ripping your content? if so watermark your content.

if you mean surfer password sharing, get www.proxypass.com

Jace · 05-04-2005, 07:44 PM

i use IProtect for password trading myself

05-04-2005, 07:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BV

do you mean as in other webmasters ripping your content? if so watermark your content.

if you mean surfer password sharing, get www.proxypass.com

I would rather not have my members downloading my content to their hard drives is what I am trying to say.

AsianDivaGirlsWebDude · 05-04-2005, 07:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Pimp Dough

I would rather not have my members downloading my content to their hard drives is what I am trying to say.

Good luck with that...most Members have the expectation that they can download content. Be prepared for lots of chargebacks if you don't provide ample warning that your content is not downloadable, and be prepared to lose sells if you do inform surfers that your content isn't downloadable.

My

Let us know how it works for you.

ADG Webmaster

BV · 05-04-2005, 07:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pimp Dough

I would rather not have my members downloading my content to their hard drives is what I am trying to say.

ah ok,
I don't suggest doing that
not a good idea

05-04-2005, 07:57 PM

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Originally Posted by BV

ah ok,
I don't suggest doing that
not a good idea

So you think almost 100% of members save the shit to their pc? I didn't know people were so smart.

Sly · 05-04-2005, 07:59 PM

Slap me for saying this, but I think a lot of you paysite owners are too anal about protecting your content. Yes, of course you do need some protection, but not so much that it HURTS your sales and retention. If it were me, I would whore out my content as much as I could without directly killing my sales. Exposure is good!

Of course, my opinion may be different once I actually have a paysite and run the tests...

Playa-Deak · 05-04-2005, 08:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pimp Dough

So you think almost 100% of members save the shit to their pc? I didn't know people were so smart.

Why don't some webmasters allow members to DL their content. Afraid of them sharing eh? Well, thats not a big thing... If I was a surfer and joined your site. I wouldn't stay pass the trial version for not being able to download the vids...

DRM works well for what u want though...

BV · 05-04-2005, 08:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pimp Dough

So you think almost 100% of members save the shit to their pc? I didn't know people were so smart.

can't give you an exact figure but i can say the majority of my complaint emails are dealing with the streaming video feeds i lease and why they can't download and save those movies like the others.

also get a few emails from surfers a week asking if the movies are downloadable, before they sign up

also dialup users totally get fucked if you don't let hem download and then play

TheSaint · 05-04-2005, 08:05 PM

DRM is like th nuclear option - I will not be the first to use it. If all sites were DRM, fine, I am on board.

In the meantime watermark every video, and don't worry about it. Yeah there is some sales loss, nothing you can do about it. Better to have higher sales and some pirates than no theft and low sales.

05-04-2005, 08:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BV

can't give you an exact figure but i can say the majority of my complaint emails are dealing with the streaming video feeds i lease and why they can't download and save those movies like the others.

also get a few emails from surfers a week asking if the movies are downloadable, before they sign up

also dialup users totally get fucked if you don't let hem download and then play

Makes sense, thanks.

The Heron · 05-04-2005, 08:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pimp Dough

So you think almost 100% of members save the shit to their pc? I didn't know people were so smart.

I didn't realize you were so stupid. good luck with not making money

05-04-2005, 08:13 PM

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Originally Posted by The Heron

I didn't realize you were so stupid. good luck with not making money

Good one. Show me the type of money you are making then we can start a keyboard war you silly fuck.

Barefootsies · 05-04-2005, 08:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AsianDivaGirlsWebDude

Good luck with that...most Members have the expectation that they can download content. Be prepared for lots of chargebacks if you don't provide ample warning that your content is not downloadable, and be prepared to lose sells if you do inform surfers that your content isn't downloadable.

My

Let us know how it works for you.

ADG Webmaster

Correct sire.

Members wanna jerk long after they cancelled your site, and post your shit all over the net. So make sure it's watermarked, and in a way hard to remove.

Let us know how your chargebacks work out.

05-04-2005, 08:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Barefootsies

Correct sire.

Members wanna jerk long after they cancelled your site, and post your shit all over the net. So make sure it's watermarked, and in a way hard to remove.

Let us know how your chargebacks work out.

I am open to just watermarking. Makes sense not to over-protect.

Tat2Jr · 05-04-2005, 08:38 PM

Watermarking is the way to go. I even seed kazza with my videos. I somehow get less then 1:100 on my index page traffic.....hmmmmm...... I wonder if it has anything to do with the fact that I've NEVER produced a single picture or video that didn't have my url/logo on it in the last 8 years.

I know that password protection wasn't what you were talking about, but ask around about Strongbox if you're not using it. I'm just a user of it, and have tried the other solutions. I, along with 99% of the other Strongbox users are walking billboards for that awesome software.

FTVGirls · 05-04-2005, 10:19 PM

Another solution... load your site up with so much high quality video that it would be hard to put it all on one hard drive, let alone post it on another site, and if there is trading via kazaa, all the better.

Happy members, and better retention haha

eisbaer · 05-04-2005, 10:25 PM

Have a look at strongbox (www.bettercgi.com) as they have a option in there that protects your content against downloading with automated Site downloaders. So the surfer can download the pictures and videos, with a right click as usual, but if the start to rip your entire site, they will be blocked.
Thats a good compromise I think as the people will download your pics and vids anyway and this is fine with me. But people ripping the whole site is another story.

High Quality · 05-04-2005, 10:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sly

Slap me for saying this, but I think a lot of you paysite owners are too anal about protecting your content. Yes, of course you do need some protection, but not so much that it HURTS your sales and retention. If it were me, I would whore out my content as much as I could without directly killing my sales. Exposure is good!

Of course, my opinion may be different once I actually have a paysite and run the tests...

Yup. Just put an intro/outro on all your videos and shit. Bangbros style with like 4s of intro is what im talkin about. I bet bangbros gets a ton of sales from filesharing even because, eventhough theres a ton of bangbros stuff being traded around, thats some HIGH QUALITY SHIT and some people, even freeloaders, are prolly willing to pay for it when they see the videos.

bigdog · 06-03-2005, 05:04 AM

you can always just stream your videos and offer any downloadable options

05-04-2005, 07:15 PM	#1
Pimp Dough Guest Posts: n/a	Protecting MEMBERS AREA Content What are the best ways to protect a paysite's "Members Area" from getting stolen and preventing theft? Videos/Pictures/Passwords/etc... Other than DRM, what is available? I look forward to informative replies. Thanks in advance! Pimp Dough [email protected]

05-04-2005, 07:39 PM	#2
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05-04-2005, 07:59 PM	#9
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05-04-2005, 08:05 PM	#12
TheSaint Confirmed User Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Everywhere at once Posts: 991	DRM is like th nuclear option - I will not be the first to use it. If all sites were DRM, fine, I am on board. In the meantime watermark every video, and don't worry about it. Yeah there is some sales loss, nothing you can do about it. Better to have higher sales and some pirates than no theft and low sales. __________________ I have no signature

05-04-2005, 08:38 PM	#18
Tat2Jr Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: Sunny California Posts: 4,882	Watermarking is the way to go. I even seed kazza with my videos. I somehow get less then 1:100 on my index page traffic.....hmmmmm...... I wonder if it has anything to do with the fact that I've NEVER produced a single picture or video that didn't have my url/logo on it in the last 8 years. I know that password protection wasn't what you were talking about, but ask around about Strongbox if you're not using it. I'm just a user of it, and have tried the other solutions. I, along with 99% of the other Strongbox users are walking billboards for that awesome software. __________________ NICHE MONEY >> Ass Worship • Panties • Solo Teen • Pantyhose Serving up exclusive fetish sites since 1997!

05-04-2005, 07:44 PM	#4
Jace FBOP Class Of 2013 Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: bumfuck, ky Posts: 35,562	i use IProtect for password trading myself

05-04-2005, 10:19 PM	#19
FTVGirls So Fucking Banned Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Phoenix AZ Posts: 1,052	Another solution... load your site up with so much high quality video that it would be hard to put it all on one hard drive, let alone post it on another site, and if there is trading via kazaa, all the better. Happy members, and better retention haha

05-04-2005, 10:25 PM	#20
eisbaer Confirmed User Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Switzerland, France... Posts: 184	Have a look at strongbox (www.bettercgi.com) as they have a option in there that protects your content against downloading with automated Site downloaders. So the surfer can download the pictures and videos, with a right click as usual, but if the start to rip your entire site, they will be blocked. Thats a good compromise I think as the people will download your pics and vids anyway and this is fine with me. But people ripping the whole site is another story.

06-03-2005, 05:04 AM	#22
bigdog Confirmed User Join Date: Jul 2001 Posts: 6,964	you can always just stream your videos and offer any downloadable options