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Old 06-21-2005, 10:24 PM   #151
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And there are still people who dont believe in Karma?
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Old 06-21-2005, 10:24 PM   #152
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Old 06-21-2005, 10:24 PM   #153
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Hi... wow.. this blew up out of no where.. was feeding my new 3 week old son.. and got the phone call from hell...

thank Fris... for pointing this out.. as I mentioned in Montreal.. we were looking for a security person to do work for us.... as the one person I had contacted was backed up for a few months with other clients... then the 2257 crap hit.. .

from what i understand.... our original apache set up on our personal servers allows pl files to be readable..something that our guys should have caught and fixed.. but didn't... this is not a software wide issue ... as much as it is a server security issue... and we are now currently working on correcting it...

as Fris mentioned every system has its weaknesses.. and they will all be found at some point.. unfortunately ours happened to be tonight...

lastly.. as for our ESclients... I do not know how our clients build their webservers. in most cases we do not have access to the client's web servers. If their severs are secured properly... (unlike ours.. as we found out) they should not have similar issues....

I'll post more info as I find out more... thank you to those who are supporting us and who took the time to contact us...
I don't think I've ever seen a more professional response, given the situation.
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Old 06-21-2005, 10:25 PM   #154
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so did anyone else see all their stats?
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Old 06-21-2005, 10:25 PM   #155
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Hi... wow.. this blew up out of no where.. was feeding my new 3 week old son.. and got the phone call from hell...

thank Fris... for pointing this out.. as I mentioned in Montreal.. we were looking for a security person to do work for us.... as the one person I had contacted was backed up for a few months with other clients... then the 2257 crap hit.. .

from what i understand.... our original apache set up on our personal servers allows pl files to be readable..something that our guys should have caught and fixed.. but didn't... this is not a software wide issue ... as much as it is a server security issue... and we are now currently working on correcting it...

as Fris mentioned every system has its weaknesses.. and they will all be found at some point.. unfortunately ours happened to be tonight...

lastly.. as for our ESclients... I do not know how our clients build their webservers. in most cases we do not have access to the client's web servers. If their severs are secured properly... (unlike ours.. as we found out) they should not have similar issues....

I'll post more info as I find out more... thank you to those who are supporting us and who took the time to contact us...
Translation: "Brad told me to buy time while he plots his revenge!"
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Old 06-21-2005, 10:25 PM   #156
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And there are still people who dont believe in Karma?

Well Brad is a beleiver now I bet and so is Danza!. haha!


You can never excape Karma. When you wrong someone it always comes back on you in triple. I guess its payday.

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Old 06-21-2005, 10:26 PM   #157
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Old 06-21-2005, 10:26 PM   #158
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I predict this thread alone will be responsible for a 50% loss in sig impressions as people rush to turn theirs off. lol
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Old 06-21-2005, 10:27 PM   #159
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fris next time you make a thread like this icq me....

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from what i understand.... our original apache set up on our personal servers allows pl files to be readable..something that our guys should have caught and fixed.. but didn't... this is not a software wide issue ... as much as it is a server security issue... and we are now currently working on correcting it...
When it comes to all those unencrypted text files... Man.. Whoever designed that needs to have their head examined...

BAD!!!! - /home/domain.com/htdocs/admin/../../../../text files.

GOOD - /home/essecured/admin/../../../../text files.

You NEVER put files in a path that "could" be accessable for exactly this reason...
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Old 06-21-2005, 10:28 PM   #161
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All scripts are Vulnerable, I do not see what the big deal is.

Shit, 40 Million cards were recently compromised via a processor, why ya folks think this kinda thing is "incredible"?
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I don't think I've ever seen a more professional response, given the situation.

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Old 06-21-2005, 10:31 PM   #164
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Sorry to see this happen

Unfortunately, this is the nature of the software business. We've had our problems in the past also as have many many (if not all) software packages. It's simply how the software business is.

Glad to see it was easily fixable for the ES guys.
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Old 06-21-2005, 10:31 PM   #165
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Fris, does this mean all systems running on this software are this vulnerable? I'am wondering if we are having another Nats style thread here.. I'am not a member of any exec stats programs, so i dont know.
Who even uses executive stats besides Brad's company?
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Old 06-21-2005, 10:35 PM   #166
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Old 06-21-2005, 10:36 PM   #167
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Sorry to see this happen

Unfortunately, this is the nature of the software business. We've had our problems in the past also as have many many (if not all) software packages. It's simply how the software business is.

Glad to see it was easily fixable for the ES guys.
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Who even uses executive stats besides Brad's company?
Possibly the companies listed here?

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Hi... wow.. this blew up out of no where.. was feeding my new 3 week old son.. and got the phone call from hell...

thank Fris... for pointing this out.. as I mentioned in Montreal.. we were looking for a security person to do work for us.... as the one person I had contacted was backed up for a few months with other clients... then the 2257 crap hit.. .

from what i understand.... our original apache set up on our personal servers allows pl files to be readable..something that our guys should have caught and fixed.. but didn't... this is not a software wide issue ... as much as it is a server security issue... and we are now currently working on correcting it...

as Fris mentioned every system has its weaknesses.. and they will all be found at some point.. unfortunately ours happened to be tonight...

lastly.. as for our ESclients... I do not know how our clients build their webservers. in most cases we do not have access to the client's web servers. If their severs are secured properly... (unlike ours.. as we found out) they should not have similar issues....

I'll post more info as I find out more... thank you to those who are supporting us and who took the time to contact us...

I watched this thread from the first page, not sure what to expect.

Greg. You are worth your weight in gold. I hope Brad knows that.

You are ever, the consumate professional.

My hat off to you, bro.
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Old 06-21-2005, 10:37 PM   #170
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Impressive.

My stance on Executive Stance is a clear yes.

I reccomend ES strongly over any other affiliates script out there these days.
ialien has built and helped build several affiliates programs with Executive Stats.
Thats the core of my business.
Not just building tours. I build the whole fucking thing so I am speaking with experience when it comes to support issues, contact and customizations.

Just two cents, ALL SCRIPTS ARE VULNERABLE TO HAX.
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There are many reasons not to like competing scripts.

Nats was funded in a bad way. Tis true, ask around and when ya get the dirt ya would be shocked.
MPA. Nuff said of the bad press over the years though it is good and definatly better than NATS.
RiverStyx. Its just old.

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Shit happens. It is inexcusable for our server not to be secured properly. This has nothing to do with ES, it has to do with our personal server set up and it not being done correctly by our former server admin. As most of you know, I do not even know HTML, so do not blame me;-) It is a server admin issue, not an ES issue.

With that said, every script, software, etc has holes. Be it NATS, MPA, ES, etc...
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Can I hold the video camera when these two meet?
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Sorry to see this happen

Unfortunately, this is the nature of the software business. We've had our problems in the past also as have many many (if not all) software packages. It's simply how the software business is.

Glad to see it was easily fixable for the ES guys.

Taking the high road in regards to the competitions mistake?



This is truly a night of firsts.
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Old 06-21-2005, 10:42 PM   #174
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Taking the high road in regards to the competitions mistake?

This is truly a night of firsts.
Not trying to start shit here, but we do take the high road. I can only think of one thing where we haven't "taken the high road" which you might be referring to (and I don't want to bring up in this thread). However, that was NOT a mistake on a competitors part, it was a direct, and in my opinion, completely wrong and immoral thing to do. There's a big difference between that and a mistake.
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Can I hold the video camera when these two meet?
newbreed.. as fris's brother i get first dibs at video footage etc... if u want you can take stills
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Greg is top notch in my books.... i couldn't have said it better! And YES shit happens!
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I reccomend ES strongly over any other affiliates script out there these days.
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Not just building tours. I build the whole fucking thing so I am speaking with experience when it comes to support issues, contact and customizations.

Just two cents, ALL SCRIPTS ARE VULNERABLE TO HAX.
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There are many reasons not to like com peting scripts.

Nats was funded in a bad way. Tis true, ask around and when ya get the dirt ya would be shocked.
MPA. Nuff said of the bad press over the years though it is good and definatly better than NATS.
RiverStyx. Its just old.

Anyways nice drama

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newbreed.. as fris's brother i get first dibs at video footage etc... if u want you can take stills
That's horse shit man, I asked first... It's like calling shotgun...
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newbreed.. as fris's brother i get first dibs at video footage etc... if u want you can take stills
im loading click.exe now...
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That's horse shit man, I asked first... It's like calling shotgun...
yeah but if its ur car and ur letting ur brother drive it.. u should get shotgun anyways right?

ok how bout this.. we both film? but i get the helmet cam exclusive...
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i miss our conversations bout ansi porn already

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*installs renegade bbs on 486 dx 66*

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my dx is anchoring my boat currently(turbo button is pressed!)
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and for the record.. greg has always been a top notch 150% good guy in my books.. always good to talk to and always has something insightful to say..

greg if u want give me a shout (# is in sig) and sorry bout the late night drama..
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ok *back to being a newb*

i will hit ya up 2morrow.. im off for the night bud
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ok how bout this.. we both film? but i get the helmet cam exclusive...
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Old 06-21-2005, 10:57 PM   #194
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k now i feel bad.. u can have one of the helmet cams.. we both split the goodyear blimp cam and we both can swap footage from corners..

on that note im off
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Old 06-21-2005, 10:58 PM   #195
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fphoeonix.irc was the best when the internet was all terminal for that :P
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Old 06-21-2005, 11:02 PM   #196
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fphoeonix.irc was the best when the internet was all terminal for that :P
Fuck Telix....and fuck Renegade.

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Old 06-21-2005, 11:02 PM   #197
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Was wondering when a post like this would show up...
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Old 06-21-2005, 11:02 PM   #198
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Silly thread hijack
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Old 06-21-2005, 11:04 PM   #199
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Possibly the companies listed here?

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Who'da thunkit? I thought MFM was under NATS
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You should be proactive with security not reactive.

The first thing I did when we got nats installed is hire a top rep security guy to go over everything with a toothcomb. Sure it costs money, and some people don't like to spend money, but its gotta be done.

I hear good things about executivestats and what it does, but for the price they are charging you would think that they could have spared $10k for a decent 3rd party security audit before releasing it.
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