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Old 06-22-2005, 05:08 PM   #101
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So lens, how many FSC webmasters refferals you have?

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Old 06-22-2005, 05:09 PM   #102
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Old 06-22-2005, 05:10 PM   #103
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Were you laughing in Hawaii when your model hitch hiked to the airport and caught a plane to get away from you?

BTW....You still owe Bailey $400 for shoots she did before she walked out on you too.

Don't laugh too hard when you cut her that check or it may not be legible.
Hmmm.... this sounds interesting...
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Old 06-22-2005, 05:10 PM   #104
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Old 06-22-2005, 05:10 PM   #105
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did no one read the thread title?
"I am predicting that 2257 to be postponed, no enforcement or inspections for 2-3 mos. "
I do believe that title was changed.....
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Old 06-22-2005, 05:10 PM   #106
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oh snap son! Join the FSC immediately!!!

because they're only going to protect their members! They've never even considered protecting folks outside of their network because they love the extra legal challenge of challenging a law that's already been enforced in the court down the street! Nothing like the workout you get by fighting precedence!
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Old 06-22-2005, 05:11 PM   #107
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Wait until tomorrow.

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Old 06-22-2005, 05:12 PM   #109
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Yes, I changed the thread so you could hear it from the horses mouth instead when my 'prediction' comes true.
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"Breaking News: 2257 postponed, no enforcement or inspections for 2-3 months.


I liked that title better - good job covering you tush lens LOL
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Old 06-22-2005, 05:15 PM   #111
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Yes, I changed the thread so you could hear it from the horses mouth instead when my 'prediction' comes true.
Is that a Sexual Innuendo?


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Old 06-22-2005, 05:17 PM   #113
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oh snap son! Join the FSC immediately!!!

because they're only going to protect their members! They've never even considered protecting folks outside of their network because they love the extra legal challenge of challenging a law that's already been enforced in the court down the street! Nothing like the workout you get by fighting precedence!
Here ya go!

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For everyone asking why a certain group is protected and commenting that it's a scare tactic, think outside of the box. Being a member helps them help you, if you are not going to fight for yourselves so be it, but don't twist the shit around. Yes, this 2-3 months is meant for everyone, not just FSC, however, it is with the help of the FSC that you have that window, I think that is a good enough reason for support don't you? Or are some of you, the type of people that don't do any real work and just ride off the sweat of others? Or just coast and don't take this industry seriously? These are big issues people...Nobody is out to get your money, just your support so what if there is a monthly due? Are you going to be able to find a lawyer for $30 a month, no, you would rather have everyone else fight the fight for you instead!
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What benefit is it for the DOJ to postpone anything? It makes no sense.
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Old 06-22-2005, 05:19 PM   #115
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do you ever have a serious thought lol
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Old 06-22-2005, 05:20 PM   #116
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Were you laughing in Hawaii when your model hitch hiked to the airport and caught a plane to get away from you?

BTW....You still owe Bailey $400 for shoots she did before she walked out on you too.

Don't laugh too hard when you cut her that check or it may not be legible.
That part about owing Bailey for her shoots brings back bad memories. Isn't the girl I sent down there to shoot with Roy (Mia) still owed $1,000? Or was that voided when she was dropped off on the streets instead of given the return plane ticket? I can't remember. My memory is getting so damned bad lately.
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Old 06-22-2005, 05:20 PM   #117
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Also they are going to court pst right so what to stop them from stepping on people on est or before 1:30pm?
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Old 06-22-2005, 05:23 PM   #119
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For everyone asking why a certain group is protected and commenting that it's a scare tactic, think outside of the box. Being a member helps them help you, if you are not going to fight for yourselves so be it, but don't twist the shit around. Yes, this 2-3 months is meant for everyone, not just FSC, however, it is with the help of the FSC that you have that window, I think that is a good enough reason for support don't you? Or are some of you, the type of people that don't do any real work and just ride off the sweat of others? Or just coast and don't take this industry seriously? These are big issues people...Nobody is out to get your money, just your support so what if there is a monthly due? Are you going to be able to find a lawyer for $30 a month, no, you would rather have everyone else fight the fight for you instead!
Now if that's what lensman had posted, had that been what I've heard all along. (Join the FSC because they want to protect you, not join the FSC because if you dont you're fucked).

Pretty WIDE FUCKING LINE between those two things. One is a scare tactic and the other is the truth. Sherie speaks truth... all this other shit about the injunction ONLY COVERING MEMBERS and other such is horse shit and only the stupidiest fucking person doesnt see it...

of course there are plenty of fucking stupid people in this world....
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I think he needs to not put himself in any position of responsibility. Sort of like a wink wink
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Old 06-22-2005, 05:24 PM   #121
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You people need to calm down. I stand behind ALL of my posts, even before they are edited. You guys just need to stop reposting the info until we get the official word. Just be fucking happy, and quit crying.
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That part about owing Bailey for her shoots brings back bad memories. Isn't the girl I sent down there to shoot with Roy (Mia) still owed $1,000? Or was that voided when she was dropped off on the streets instead of given the return plane ticket? I can't remember. My memory is getting so damned bad lately.

My memory is not dead on about this issue either but as I recall...He promised her 2k but only paid her $1,200 so if my memory stands correct, he still owes her $800.

$800 Mia
$400 Bailey

Plus, I had to run him down to get the $200 finders fee he promised an associate of mine a year or two ago....And he bitched about paying it even though he shot the girl multiple times and even brought her to LA.

I wonder if he owes any of the "big players" money as well.
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The DOJ did not propose these new laws to make your life easier. FSC will not get a TRO and the laws will go into effect at midnight. Make sure you are compliant. Don't believe these stupid rumors, don't put your life on the line because of "something someone said on GFY".

If you guys spent as much time complying as you spend trying NOT to comply, you would have been done a month ago.
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read this and check back @ 1:30 tommorrow
http://xbiz.com/news_piece.php?id=9236

1/2 truths is the operative word
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Old 06-22-2005, 05:26 PM   #126
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If it is not true

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Apparently I wish I would have been more skeptical of this post before it was editied. It looks as though that this wasn't a set in stone thing and now appears to be someone's opinion and not fact... damn and i got all exicted for nothing. oh well leason learned ... wait to see it in print before you believe it.
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You people need to calm down. I stand behind ALL of my posts, even before they are edited. You guys just need to stop reposting the info until we get the official word. Just be fucking happy, and quit crying.

Does POV Porn Guy still shoot for you?
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You people need to calm down. I stand behind ALL of my posts, even before they are edited. You guys just need to stop reposting the info until we get the official word. Just be fucking happy, and quit crying.
Ok well that makes more sense. Keep us posted
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Sort of like a wink wink
Exactly, get the point?
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Going bold cause it needs to be seen.
If you doubting Lensman in this thread you are going a looooooong way in showing your relationship with your attny. Some people with really informed attny's received a phone call prior to this post and were aware of the "prediction" that Lensman made.


don't hate on Lensman , call your attny and find out why you didn't get a call.
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Court docs from yesterday

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My memory is not dead on about this issue either but as I recall...He promised her 2k but only paid her $1,200 so if my memory stands correct, he still owes her $800.

$800 Mia
$400 Bailey

Plus, I had to run him down to get the $200 finders fee he promised an associate of mine a year or two ago....And he bitched about paying it even though he shot the girl multiple times and even brought her to LA.

I wonder if he owes any of the "big players" money as well.

Nice little mini-drama developing inside this thread. Why is Roy silent?
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For the record.

I never doubted lensman or his prediction. What I doubt is that the FSC is going to sit and watch other people get prosecuted so they have just that much more mounted against them in front of a judge.
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Nice little mini-drama developing inside this thread. Why is Roy silent?
You know... in case you haven't been paying attention, this is pretty big/important news. Maybe you and Aaron can take your potential drama to a new thread? Actually I urge you to, it will make for more interesting reading anyway.
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Now you heard it from someone else. http://xbiz.com/news_piece.php?id=9236

Just remember I said it first babay.
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For the record.

I never doubted lensman or his prediction. What I doubt is that the FSC is going to sit and watch other people get prosecuted so they have just that much more mounted against them in front of a judge.

Listen it's real simple, It is LEGAL talk.

If there was an agreement made between the FSC and the US Govt. it is just that and agreement between the FSC and the GOVT. Are you a part of the FSC? if not you are technically NOT part of the agreement. Will they come after you??? who f'n knows. And no one with an ounce of sense will tell you otherwise. Things have to be worded properly to NOT make people liable.

As far as the FSC goes. You don't want to be a member? that is your choice. But people in this industry didn't have the "predicted" TRO without the FSC. Did anyone else file for an injunction on their own?? who was it??

And if your the type of business person who has been on the tit of the adult industry and feel the freebies offered by programs are something your entitled to, your not going to be around long enough to matter.

The FSC membership structure is VERY fair 50 bucks a YEAR for the individual webmaster. That gets you about 20 minutes with a decent lawyer.
Strength in Numbers it is really that simple.

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Thanks to Lens for the information, though linking the stay of investigations to "FSC members" only is irresponsible.

I know we want as many people as possible to join the coalition, totally agree with that, but being misleading and using scare tactics is not the way to do it. Preying on the small time webmaster's fears by saying that only FSC members will benefit from this particular litigation attempt is not only 100% dead wrong, but also as manipulative as the very forces the FSC are up against.

When Ashcroft, or Gonzales, or Bush, or anyone, used these sorts of tactics and blanket statements to induce a fear-related response from the populace, dozens of GFY threads popped up calling them out.

Don't stoop to their level.

I'm an FSC member, not as big time as I'd like to be, but still someone in it for the long haul, and I'm disappointed that both FSC personel, and you yourself Lens, are lowering yourselves to a near-propaganda level in order to drive memberships.
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ok so let me play dumb for a moment lol

If this is 100% legit news why such a dramatic title and post change? and why all the edits?

If it was me I would be the first to be saying "See I was right look here" and get my glory. That at least is what has me baffeled about this thread, is it true or is it not??

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Thanks to Lens for the information, though linking the stay of investigations to "FSC members" only is irresponsible.

I know we want as many people as possible to join the coalition, totally agree with that, but being misleading and using scare tactics is not the way to do it. Preying on the small time webmaster's fears by saying that only FSC members will benefit from this particular litigation attempt is not only 100% dead wrong, but also as manipulative as the very forces the FSC are up against.

When Ashcroft, or Gonzales, or Bush, or anyone, used these sorts of tactics and blanket statements to induce a fear-related response from the populace, dozens of GFY threads popped up calling them out.

Don't stoop to their level.

I'm an FSC member, not as big time as I'd like to be, but still someone in it for the long haul, and I'm disappointed that both FSC personel, and you yourself Lens, are lowering yourselves to a near-propaganda level in order to drive memberships.

MAKO, keep in mind the deal was struck between the FSC and the DOJ. I think the words are being chosen very carefully. Not as a scare tatic but for legal reasons. we'll see it all play out.
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Old 06-22-2005, 05:50 PM   #145
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ok so let me play dumb for a moment lol

If this is 100% legit news why such a dramatic title and post change? and why all the edits?

If it was me I would be the first to be saying "See I was right look here" and get my glory. That at least is what has me baffeled about this thread, is it true or is it not??

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MAKO, keep in mind the deal was struck between the FSC and the DOJ. I think the words are being chosen very carefully. Not as a scare tatic but for legal reasons. we'll see it all play out.
Let's hope so, I'd like that to be the case rather than some of the previous statements over the past months that official FSC spokespeople have gone on record saying regarding protection in "any" legal event "only" covering members.

Lens isn't guilty of that, I'm referring to FSC reps who started the PR campaign using mis-truths originally. Lens is simply unknowingly trying to help FSC, but doing it in a misguided way by perpetuating the statements already made.
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Thanks for that link but it does not answer my question, right now (as of like under 5 mins of this thread being posted) something like that is everywhere lol

No dissrespect to Xbiz or any others but I use the word "Official" and last I knew the court case was to be at 1:30pm now as boards tell it it's an announcement at 1:30pm

I pray that this is all correct, As I have said the whole time this can't stick, it won't stick, it violates too many grandfathered laws put forth by the SC but it's gonna be a storm before it is over.

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Can somebody please explain to me how members of a lobby group are outside of the law, and can be protected, while others can not?
they are not outside of the law, they, as a group , can file for injunction.
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You know... in case you haven't been paying attention, this is pretty big/important news. Maybe you and Aaron can take your potential drama to a new thread? Actually I urge you to, it will make for more interesting reading anyway.


Actually.....My presence in this thread was requested by 2 other people who are not at liberty to discuss any specifics.....And Donovan is not one of them.
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Actually.....My presence in this thread was requested by 2 other people who are not at liberty to discuss any specifics.....And Donovan is not one of them.
...and there you have it.
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