Originally Posted by MikeHawk

Good stuff Sleazy!

Originally Posted by Tala

Y'all 'scuse me whilst I get the fuck out of this thread.

Originally Posted by The Adult Broker

wasn't going to post but I am LMAO at this one Tala ... I'll get the fuck out with you cuz I know all parties and I don't like to see this kind of stuff .

Originally Posted by AlienQ

Sleazy the Mailer Expert?

Thats a new one.
LOL.

Originally Posted by MikeHawk

Well Tanker why you posted what you did is amazing to me, but hey you can do what you want. You did not work for us, and all that was discussed was some plain and simple ?fact finding? with some gathering of data to prove many rumors and information that was given to us to be untrue or true.

Never came out and ever called you thieves or that you stole things from us, that is what other people told us, and that is something that hurt Joe and my feelings to tell you the truth.

In Florida when we saw you guys and I said congrats I meant every word I said. Now when I got back I had a bunch of calls and info giving to me in bits and pieces. To tell you the truth I did not want to believe it myself.

The good news is that it has not hurt Smashbucks or our program a single bit, we are still growing and launching some of the best we have to offer soon. We launched almost 4 ½ years ago, we show up to shows talk to people, sponsor some events etc.

If you had this kind of anger or some kind of question I wonder why you just did not pick up the phone and call me as everyone else does. My number has not changed in years.

Both Joe and I are going to sit back and watch this thread in amusement, highly entertaining, good page views for your new program indeed.

I am taking my daughter to Hawaii tomorrow and will be sitting on a beach not thinking about anything else but relaxation!

Everyone else enjoys the post, see you all in Mexico for YP?.us crazy people are paying for the LOBSTER DINNER?..ya see we so crazy?..lol

Originally Posted by MikeHawk

Word of advice, we are watching you very closely, also stay away from our people, find your own webmasters........ i have the icq logs of the entire conversation before you go to say "you dont know what i am talking about"

Dont take Joe and I being nice as "weakness"

Just do your own program stay away from our people, create your own data lists and do good biz and be honest. Hard work pays off ...it does.

Originally Posted by Purple Haze

Ellisa and Tanker are very good friends of ours. We hang out all the time and have never seen Tanker pissed like this before- I didn't know he was capable of it!

They both have integrity and business ethics. I know because when I go visit them, when anything business related pops up on the screen, while on their laptop--their taking it out of my lap, as not for me to see. ---and where great friends! Imagine what they would do if they didn't like me?

Purple Haze

Originally Posted by Anthony

SleazyDream said:

now i'm not a mailer but i know one or two things about the game cause i know a lot of mailers

This is how i'd look at it if that was the case.
#1 - why the fuck were they allowed to get the list? that would be mike's own security problem really in the end and a reason to realize he needs better security in the future.

Simplest way for anyone caught stealing a list is to show an email with the full headers of the seeded email list. If that can't be produced, than stfu.


#2 - it's a one time hit - and sales wouldn't be more then 1-2% of that list cause it's obviouly been used before for other mailings....

You are wrong. Mailing lists are people, some lists do well with teens versus anal sites, and sales correspond to what was mailed for.

#3 - If the mailing WAS done - it would have been done illegially - why not goto spam cops or the like and make it a living hell for that program if you have the proof?


Where do you get your info from? Seriously, someone with a copy of DarK Mailer and 5 day old proxies does not a mailer one make. Explain how it was illegally sent if the list was stolen, and obviously an opt in one. I can't see why anyone would care for a General Interest list.

One reason they can't go to Spam cop is because they dont' have copies of any emails sent. Spamcop works for the person who received the email, not for someone who thinks their email list was stolen.


#4. - What's done is done - it's in the past - i ASSUME it's not like they got all the new members and are mailing them every week is it? clamp up secuity and move on

Good Opt In mailing lists last for a good long time. Espcially opt in members.

----
So the accusation is they stole an email list is it?

Easy enough to prove. Show an email from a seeded opt in email that has full headers that lead to the server from which it was sent.

If that can't be done, shut the fuck up.

Originally Posted by kBizzle

aly i own the trademark on mad views
you will be receiving a letter in the mail from my reps.

lol

Originally Posted by SleazyDream

dude -you're a moron. pure and simple.

Originally Posted by Anthony

Is that right, Mr I'm not a mailer, but I know a thing or two?



Hate it when someone tells you, you are wrong do you fatboy?

Originally Posted by AlienQ

Heads up Cross piss!

Originally Posted by Anthony

I even gave him props for knowing his shit with TGP's!

Goddamn, burgerboy really has a chip on his shoulder.

Originally Posted by kBizzle

aly i own the trademark on mad views
you will be receiving a letter in the mail from my reps.

lol

Originally Posted by Tanker

hahha nice now team up with Juicy he owns the domain I think

Originally Posted by Juicy D. Links

Just to set the RECORD STRAIGHT.........I am not GAy and very into chicks.

Originally Posted by Zebra

Rinaldo tried to rape me in the back of a cab!

Originally Posted by HighOnAcid

I love it when sub drama starts in a drama thread. It's like getting an egg with two yolks!

Originally Posted by Juicy D. Links

Pics? Proof?

Originally Posted by Anthony

Is that right, Mr I'm not a mailer, but I know a thing or two?



Hate it when someone tells you, you are wrong do you fatboy?

Originally Posted by SleazyDream

you're absolutly right - you know everything. who the FUCK was I to think that i might even have a foggy hot cent of a clue about anything. You're the man, you're soo smart you got bigger neck muscles then most cause the weight of your brain is sooo much more than that of the general public.

It must be soo nice to sit there on your multimillion dollar boat using your satillite link telling this stupid little tgp free porn guy just how dumb he is.

someday i wana me smart and rich and a super hero ultra uber spammer elite character like you

till then - i'll have to suffer being poor.

Originally Posted by Tanker

You have to be kidding me you go from saying that we bought MIP and it was funded by you through us stealing and mailing your members to this?

You tell the whole world about how we have stolen somthing from you and now you say why didnt I just call you?

That was what you should have done before making all these accusations
in this thread http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showthread.php?t=502604 sending it to people and telling them its about me and Ellisa


And this morning you bump a thread from 2 months ago about Ellisa leaving smashbucks with this




You should have called me if you thought I wronged you! Not talk all this trash! Its bullshit and you know it

I am sorry you have to rely on fake drama to get your advertising out on boards you are to cheap to even buy a banner on!~



Tanker

Originally Posted by Anthony

and Phillipino Cabana boys!

Originally Posted by SleazyDream

As a life philisophy I believe what comes around goes around. I've had people come up and go on their own and become bigger than me. I'm HAPPY for them, DH is an example. He's fucking smoking me now, and years ago he used to look up to me as one of the ones on the top of the mountain. I'm fucking hugly proud of him and that he once looked up to me and still consider him a GREAT friend. I could have been jealous - but where would that have taken me? He's opened a lot of doors for me cause of it recently.


People OWE you NOTHING in this world. It's easy to forget that. Think about this - when was the last time you send a check off to the teacher that taught you how to read? Cause you wouldn't be here without them.

mike - this is my advise to you. clamp up your security and move on. don't let it happen again. but revenge and slamming someone although it may feel sweet isn't the right path.

if someone fucked you - karma will get em. and karma will get em 100X worse. forgive them and move on - but karma tests you to see if you let karma deal with it or it you felt the need to get involved in the hands of fate. Look forward not backward. You MIGHT save $1 by looking back but you'll loose a $100 opportuniuty cause you were looking back. that's a HARD philosophy to embrace - and i've done it to the tune of several deals now in the 5 figgure range and when i did I made WAY more - things FELL into my lap that made me a killing - litterally a KILLING - why? I have no fucking idea but it happened - every fucking time so much so that I totally embrace that philosophy now and do what I can to live my life by that frame of thought.

everyone take a moment to realize what I said there and embrace it. it will help you in your life and in your business.....



and now back to regular programing.

you'll all a bunch of whinny emotional idiots

Originally Posted by Anthony

Interesting how your post mirrors you so well. It screams volumes on how you hate to be made to look an idiot.

Who's the one getting pissy for giving out wrong information? Not me.

No one called you a dumb TGP guy, obviously that is what you think of yourself, even though you have amassed quite a network.

You shouldn't want to be anyone, just yourself. When you wake up every morning, and look in the mirror, it's you, you have to answer too. Remember that.

May I suggest http://www.mentalhealth.com/ as the first stop to your journey to a better outlook on yourself? Mental Healt professionals are in your town, let your fingers do the dialing.

Originally Posted by SleazyDream

wow - you wooooooed me again. I can't believe the extent of your knowledge base - you've gota be the smartest guy on the face of the planet. If i touch you - would some of your smartness rub off on me? Do psychologists and psycharistists call you every day for your input and ask your advise on their clients? They should - you really have insight beyond that of the mortal man.

Originally Posted by MikeHawk

lol....last time i promise.......lol

Well Tanker why you posted what you did is amazing to me, but hey you can do what you want. You did not work for us, and all that was discussed was some plain and simple ?fact finding? with some gathering of data to prove many rumors and information that was given to us to be untrue or true.

Never came out and ever called you thieves or that you stole things from us, that is what other people told us, and that is something that hurt Joe and my feelings to tell you the truth.

In Florida when we saw you guys and I said congrats I meant every word I said. Now when I got back I had a bunch of calls and info giving to me in bits and pieces. To tell you the truth I did not want to believe it myself.

The good news is that it has not hurt Smashbucks or our program a single bit, we are still growing and launching some of the best we have to offer soon. We launched almost 4 ½ years ago, we show up to shows talk to people, sponsor some events etc.

If you had this kind of anger or some kind of question I wonder why you just did not pick up the phone and call me as everyone else does. My number has not changed in years.

Both Joe and I are going to sit back and watch this thread in amusement, highly entertaining, good page views for your new program indeed.

I am taking my daughter to Hawaii tomorrow and will be sitting on a beach not thinking about anything else but relaxation!

Everyone else enjoys the post, see you all in Mexico for YP?.us crazy people are paying for the LOBSTER DINNER?..ya see we so crazy?..lol

Originally Posted by Lensman

I think that's the issue, unsubstantiated allegations are not allowed around here. I know both Tanker and Ellisa intimately, and making charges against them without proof is just wrong. The crazy thing here is that he didn't mention any names or actions, which makes the whole fucking thing really nuts to figure out.

Originally Posted by Soul_Rebel

You tell the whole world about how they have stolen somthing from you and now you say why didnt you just call them?

Originally Posted by ronaldo

I think I just experienced my first deja vu.

Originally Posted by SixNine

You never stick up for me when people talk shit, some times I think I'm not the number one son anymore, I hate Jimmy now.

Originally Posted by SixNine

You never stick up for me when people talk shit, some times I think I'm not the number one son anymore, I hate Jimmy now.