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baddog · 08-29-2005, 03:38 AM

Who do you promote, and why do you like them over the other guy?

Do you prefer PPS or revshare, and how much do you get?

Yes, I have a reason for asking.

sickbeatz · 08-29-2005, 03:38 AM

gambling is bad news!

The Ghost · 08-29-2005, 03:40 AM

I thought this read 'Gambling Problems.' I was going to recommend G.A.

baddog · 08-29-2005, 10:31 AM

So no one here promotes any gambling sites?

JFK · 08-29-2005, 10:35 AM

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Originally Posted by baddog

So no one here promotes any gambling sites?

I tired it a couple of times in the past but got fucked over ...........so no more

baddog · 08-29-2005, 10:54 AM

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Originally Posted by JFK

I tired it a couple of times in the past but got fucked over ...........so no more

Can I ask what happened?

MikeSmoke · 08-29-2005, 11:29 AM

I send most of my traffic to Casino Coins and Referback - Casino Coins because their casinos aren't as exposed as some of the others, and both of them because I've had good results from them :-)
I use revshare - in the short run pps may do better, but all you need is one whale, I've had single players drop as much as 8-10K in a month, which is very nice money on revshare :-)

xxxice · 08-29-2005, 11:52 AM

I met a guy that says he works for Party Poker at internext. I asked why adult sites could not promote them. He seemed appaled and was like what are you talking about. I explained to him their support had said it was not ok. He then said what are you talking about do you think they would know the answer. Start sending traffic. Finally I look in their terms and see this ...

3.2.1 Place Marketing Materials on any online site or other medium where the content and/or material on such website or medium is libellous, discriminatory, obscene, unlawful, sexually explicit, pornographic or violent or which is, in our sole discretion otherwise unsuitable;

Does not look like adult sites can promte them

xxxice · 08-29-2005, 11:52 AM

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Originally Posted by MikeSmoke

I send most of my traffic to Casino Coins and Referback - Casino Coins because their casinos aren't as exposed as some of the others, and both of them because I've had good results from them :-)
I use revshare - in the short run pps may do better, but all you need is one whale, I've had single players drop as much as 8-10K in a month, which is very nice money on revshare :-)

Do they allow adult ?

JFK · 08-29-2005, 12:01 PM

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Originally Posted by baddog

Can I ask what happened?

didnt get paid, twice by different programs, they were Not large enough amounts to worry about, but left a bad taste in my mouth

baddog · 08-29-2005, 12:23 PM

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Originally Posted by JFK

didnt get paid, twice by different programs, they were Not large enough amounts to worry about, but left a bad taste in my mouth

hmm, I am being approached by a publicly traded, billion dollar company to do some biz with . . . hopefully that would not be an issue

Rankings · 08-29-2005, 12:34 PM

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canplayer · 08-29-2005, 12:52 PM

baddog, you looking to promote? We have 2 Realtime Gaming sites, and we have a revenue share program where you can promote them.

baddog · 08-29-2005, 01:14 PM

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Originally Posted by canplayer

baddog, you looking to promote? We have 2 Realtime Gaming sites, and we have a revenue share program where you can promote them.

Well, not exactly . . . I have a program that approached me to do some work for them. As I am not really into gambling sites and I don't easily associate my name with any program, I am doing some research.

LiLi · 08-29-2005, 01:21 PM

http://affiliates.888.com allows adult and im doing pretty well with them...

Clicked trafficc from my blog, its my first time promoting casinos online then I went for the PPA instead of revshare. I´m thinking about doing revshare next month. It´s not bad 7000$ for 6 days

vicki · 08-29-2005, 01:43 PM

I've not been impressed with the 3 I signed up to promote. 2 never even sent the signup verification emails (I even monitored the spam folder) and the other is constantly changing their sites and where the links I've placed go.

Some of these guys really need to get a clue on how affiliate programs should work imho

canplayer · 08-29-2005, 02:32 PM

well anyone looking to promote with me, hit me up on icq, I can work out individual deals based on volume and we have easy converting sites.

camouflaged123 · 08-29-2005, 02:36 PM

i thought they allow adult sites... i know 2bet.com does.

Lizy · 08-29-2005, 02:39 PM

Anyone interested in selling gaming traffic from adult just email us.

[email protected]

We have around 20 casino's live and we don't care about the source too much as long as it isn't spam.

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WiredGuy · 08-29-2005, 02:47 PM

Based on the advice of my attorney, I'm staying clear of revshare casino sponsors based on recent crackdowns from the DOJ.
WG

baddog · 08-29-2005, 07:12 PM

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Originally Posted by WiredGuy

Based on the advice of my attorney, I'm staying clear of revshare casino sponsors based on recent crackdowns from the DOJ.
WG

This sponsor is based in Europe . . . what did your atty say about the reach of the DOJ there (if you don't mind sharing)?

ricks · 08-29-2005, 07:19 PM

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Originally Posted by WiredGuy

Based on the advice of my attorney, I'm staying clear of revshare casino sponsors based on recent crackdowns from the DOJ.
WG

Is there a difference in your exposure with revshare as opposed to PPA?

Why would the US DOJ concern you as a Canadian?

ricks · 08-29-2005, 07:21 PM

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Originally Posted by canplayer

well anyone looking to promote with me, hit me up on icq, I can work out individual deals based on volume and we have easy converting sites.

Good deal canplayer.

xxxice · 08-29-2005, 07:28 PM

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Originally Posted by LiLi

http://affiliates.888.com allows adult and im doing pretty well with them...

Clicked trafficc from my blog, its my first time promoting casinos online then I went for the PPA instead of revshare. I´m thinking about doing revshare next month. It´s not bad 7000$ for 6 days

1. Affiliate Program Application and Enrollment. To become an Affiliate you will have to submit a completed Affiliate Program Application. We will evaluate your application and, where applicable, notify you of your acceptance. We may reject your application if we determine, in our sole discretion, that Your Site is not suitable for the Affiliate Program for any reason, including, but not limited to, inclusion of content on Your Site that we deem is in any way unlawful, harmful, threatening, defamatory, obscene, harassing, or racially, ethnically or otherwise objectionable, which by way of example only, contains (i) sexually explicit, pornographic or obscene content (whether in text or graphics), (ii) speech or images that are offensive, profane, hateful, threatening, harmful, defamatory, libelous, harassing or discriminatory (whether based on race, ethnicity, creed, religion, gender, sexual orientation, physical disability or otherwise), (iii) graphic violence, (iv) politically sensitive or controversial issues or (v) any unlawful behavior or conduct. Similarly, we shall reject your application if we determine, in our sole discretion, that Your Site is designed to appeal to minors. If we reject your application, you are welcome to reapply to the Affiliate Program at any time.

WiredGuy · 08-29-2005, 07:31 PM

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Originally Posted by ricks

Is there a difference in your exposure with revshare as opposed to PPA?

Why would the US DOJ concern you as a Canadian?

From the way he presented it, revshare based programs can be construed as a partnership with the casino (not of entire earnings but of the portion you referred). Even though the TOS might say you are not entering into a partnership with such a company then it may still potentially be seen as being in partnership with an offshore casino. Just because the US government is cracking down on casinos (and affiliates) doesn't mean I should necessarily worry since I'm in Canada, but its no surprise that Canada follows US laws pretty closely and this is not something that's worth the risk for me.
WG

WiredGuy · 08-29-2005, 07:33 PM

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Originally Posted by baddog

This sponsor is based in Europe . . . what did your atty say about the reach of the DOJ there (if you don't mind sharing)?

It doesn't matter where the casino is located, at least the way he described it. What matters is where you're business is located and if the government could make it seem that you are a partner into an offshore casino.
WG

baddog · 08-29-2005, 07:41 PM

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Originally Posted by WiredGuy

From the way he presented it, revshare based programs can be construed as a partnership with the casino (not of entire earnings but of the portion you referred). Even though the TOS might say you are not entering into a partnership with such a company then it may still potentially be seen as being in partnership with an offshore casino. Just because the US government is cracking down on casinos (and affiliates) doesn't mean I should necessarily worry since I'm in Canada, but its no surprise that Canada follows US laws pretty closely and this is not something that's worth the risk for me.
WG

Does that mean you would be willing to do it on a PPS basis?

ricks · 08-29-2005, 07:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WiredGuy

From the way he presented it, revshare based programs can be construed as a partnership with the casino (not of entire earnings but of the portion you referred). Even though the TOS might say you are not entering into a partnership with such a company then it may still potentially be seen as being in partnership with an offshore casino. Just because the US government is cracking down on casinos (and affiliates) doesn't mean I should necessarily worry since I'm in Canada, but its no surprise that Canada follows US laws pretty closely and this is not something that's worth the risk for me.
WG

Interesting point of view. I don't know of any affiliates in the US that have ever been prosecuted for promoting online gambling, let alone in Canada. I follow the industry closely.

ricks · 08-29-2005, 07:49 PM

To answer baddogs first question, I can tell you from an industry stand point that most veteran affiliates prefer the revshare option although the high PPA that some of the casinos are offering do look tempting. Like porn though, the long term money is in the revshare, especially when dealing with established casinos that retain players.

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WiredGuy · 08-29-2005, 08:29 PM

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Originally Posted by baddog

Does that mean you would be willing to do it on a PPS basis?

Yes, selling traffic on a PPC/PPS basis I see as being fine since those revenues are not directly related to profit/losses of the casino (which could be seen as a partnership).
WG

WiredGuy · 08-29-2005, 08:30 PM

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Originally Posted by ricks

Interesting point of view. I don't know of any affiliates in the US that have ever been prosecuted for promoting online gambling, let alone in Canada. I follow the industry closely.

I don't know of any prosecutions but this guy is a very conservative attorney. Basically, he's giving me worse case scenarios and online gambling is one of those really touchy areas.
WG

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Dalai lama · 09-29-2005, 07:07 AM

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xxxice Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2002 Posts: 5,042	I met a guy that says he works for Party Poker at internext. I asked why adult sites could not promote them. He seemed appaled and was like what are you talking about. I explained to him their support had said it was not ok. He then said what are you talking about do you think they would know the answer. Start sending traffic. Finally I look in their terms and see this ... 3.2.1 Place Marketing Materials on any online site or other medium where the content and/or material on such website or medium is libellous, discriminatory, obscene, unlawful, sexually explicit, pornographic or violent or which is, in our sole discretion otherwise unsuitable; Does not look like adult sites can promte them

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