DRAMA: Time to Litigate !!! Ifriends better get this turned off ASAP ! - Page 2 - GoFuckYourself.com

cool1 · 09-02-2005, 11:25 AM

damn crooks are everywhere
get em good LArs

TheSenator · 09-02-2005, 11:31 AM

IFriends just farted on Lars.

SmokeyTheBear · 09-02-2005, 11:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Chimmy

Copyright infringement aside, this thread is tacky and totally unprofessional.

Lars, your thread title would imply that iFriends is directly stealing your material, your branding, and so on. A closer look shows that one of iFriends affiliates has taken liberties with your materials...and not iFriends themselves.

So, your attempt at drama to discredit iFriends has worked, but at the same time, iFriends could be equally justified at screaming back at you for this blatant slander.

I'm always amazed at how the industry leaders in this industry don't seem to have 2 bits of business sense to rub together.

This thread is about copyright infringement so it kind of hard to say "copyright infringement aside"

Kind of like saying " aside from the mass killings , hitler was a good guy "

I dont think the thread was intended to slam ifriends , i certainly didn't get that from the thread.

Lars choice of words may not have been the friendliest , but in no way is it "blatant slander"

Demanding something isn't slander, you may not get what you want , but it certainly isn't slander ( besides slander is spoken , libel is written )

He is simply warning them in no uncertain terms that they are now aware of profiting from stolen content and need to stop it.

Chaldoray · 09-02-2005, 11:52 AM

bumpppppp

Chimmy · 09-02-2005, 12:00 PM

First. Coyright aside is a valid comment. This implies that I agree that there is copyright infringement. That is not my point...so I am simply deflecting all of the the flames about how serious copyright infringement is. (But judging from your response, this attempt was a failed one).

And on to the other points. The title does slam iFriends. It doesn't say "Webmaster infringes on our copyright"..it doesn't say " Someone is stealing our material". It does say "iFriends better get this turned off".

Libel, slander..whatever...my point remains. What is accepted as a normal way of doing business in this industry wouldn't fly for a second in the "real" business world.

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Originally Posted by SmokeyTheBear

This thread is about copyright infringement so it kind of hard to say "copyright infringement aside"

Kind of like saying " aside from the mass killings , hitler was a good guy "

I dont think the thread was intended to slam ifriends , i certainly didn't get that from the thread.

Lars choice of words may not have been the friendliest , but in no way is it "blatant slander"

Demanding something isn't slander, you may not get what you want , but it certainly isn't slander ( besides slander is spoken , libel is written )

He is simply warning them in no uncertain terms that they are now aware of profiting from stolen content and need to stop it.

Ecksent · 09-02-2005, 12:02 PM

WOW! That shit is still up??? Thought it would have been down by yesterday. Hmmmm?????

d00t · 09-02-2005, 12:13 PM

my piece in the thread of the day

Doctor Dre · 09-02-2005, 12:22 PM

He should be smart enough to at least send YOU traffic

lesbodojo · 09-02-2005, 01:33 PM

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Originally Posted by LegendaryLars

here comes the love fuckers

Yeah. That line reminds of of a scene in Blue Velvet.

Webcam Guru · 09-02-2005, 02:34 PM

I always wondered how Will76 gets his traffic. Now I know.

JFK · 09-02-2005, 02:42 PM

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Originally Posted by LegendaryLars

These people are soooo bummmed , Slam dunk case and I will take all their ifriends earnings and their lame ass domain.

Go get em Lars

tranza · 09-02-2005, 03:34 PM

The site is still up?

High Plains Drifter · 09-02-2005, 03:36 PM

Looks to me like that guy was "inspired" by cams.com

SmokeyTheBear · 09-02-2005, 04:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chimmy

First. Coyright aside is a valid comment. This implies that I agree that there is copyright infringement. That is not my point...so I am simply deflecting all of the the flames about how serious copyright infringement is. (But judging from your response, this attempt was a failed one)..

This thread is about copyright infringement, if you set it aside there is nothing to discuss..

see example about hitler being a nice guy ( if you put the mass killings aside )

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chimmy

And on to the other points. The title does slam iFriends. It doesn't say "Webmaster infringes on our copyright"..it doesn't say " Someone is stealing our material". It does say "iFriends better get this turned off".

And ifriends better get it turned off or they will be liable as far as i see. I dont see why that is hard to understand or would be "slamming". Its not a threat , its a wise piece of legal advice i would think..

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chimmy

Libel, slander..whatever...my point remains. What is accepted as a normal way of doing business in this industry wouldn't fly for a second in the "real" business world

Actually your exact words were "blatant slander", theres no "point" , he either did do blatant slander ( and its quite obvious merely from the dictionary results , that he did nothing of the sort ) or he didn't . And what he said in the title doesn't qualify as slander or libel.

But you are right this wouldn't be accepted in the "real world" , ifriends would be slapped with a c&d and so would the host and owner of the site in question. ( and possibly you for falsely accusing someone of slander

*but since its written it you would be charged with libel)

Not raining on your parade, he might have gone about it the wrong way because he is pissed , but nothing illegal about that.. might be a bad business decision in your opinion , others might find it a good one.

Chimmy · 09-02-2005, 04:37 PM

Nope...disagree. This is not an iFriends issue. This is an iFriends affiliate issue. Same as if a teenager broke a car window with a hammer he bought at Walmart. It's the teenager that is at fault. Walmart has nothing to do with it. So, for a competitor of Walmart to try and muddy up the name of Walmart by blaming them would be irresponsible and foolish. (ie. Lars vs ifriends)

Have a nice day.

u-Bob · 09-02-2005, 04:39 PM

bump if you love drama.

SmokeyTheBear · 09-02-2005, 05:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chimmy

Nope...disagree. This is not an iFriends issue. This is an iFriends affiliate issue. Same as if a teenager broke a car window with a hammer he bought at Walmart. It's the teenager that is at fault. Walmart has nothing to do with it. So, for a competitor of Walmart to try and muddy up the name of Walmart by blaming them would be irresponsible and foolish. (ie. Lars vs ifriends)

Have a nice day.

Nice example , but not even close..

Ifriends is not culpible until they are notified..

Why make an example so far off base , lets make it more realistic..

If mcdonalds hired a company to make burger flyers to hand out infront of their restaurants and unbeknownst to them , the company that made the flyers simply copied the burger king flyer and crossed out "burger king" and inserted "mcdonalds"

While mcdonalds wouldnt be laible , if they were informed of the thievery and didn't take action ( i.e. stopped handing out the flyers , they would be )

And in such a case i wouldn't find it at all strange for burger king to write an editorial entitled " MCDONALDS BETTER GEt THIS TURNED OFF ASAP" even though mcdonalds didnt make the flyer ,furthermore they wouldn't be out of their legal right to say such a statement..

* I'm having a nice day thanks

PeekHoles · 09-02-2005, 05:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Webcam Guru

I always wondered how Will76 gets his traffic. Now I know.

Are you just being funny I don't belive thats wills site.

Webcam Guru · 09-02-2005, 06:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Forplaz

Are you just being funny I don't belive thats wills site.

I'd be very surprised. I've seen many of his sites and he's much more creative than that.

katiepants · 09-02-2005, 06:15 PM

Looks like Clickcash termed his/her account.

"This link has been disabled due to a TOS and/or spam violation. Traffic is no longer accepted from this domain or address."

Xenophage · 09-02-2005, 06:16 PM

Just a Update webpower/ifriends has taken action and I commend them for their standup and quick action on this matter !

PeekHoles · 09-02-2005, 06:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Webcam Guru

I'd be very surprised. I've seen many of his sites and he's much more creative than that.

hehe I was going to say yeah I have seen alot of his sites aswell.

SmokeyTheBear · 09-02-2005, 08:09 PM

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Originally Posted by LegendaryLars

Just a Update webpower/ifriends has taken action and I commend them for their standup and quick action on this matter !

MikeVega · 09-02-2005, 08:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chimmy

Nope...disagree. This is not an Friends issue. This is an iFriends affiliate issue. Same as if a teenager broke a car window with a hammer he bought at Walmart. It's the teenager that is at fault. Walmart has nothing to do with it. So, for a competitor of Walmart to try and muddy up the name of Walmart by blaming them would be irresponsible and foolish. (ie. Lars vs ifriends)

Have a nice day.

I'm not going to take the time to look it up .... but i believe that walmart was sued by a few people for selling guns that killed family members .... don't recall if any of them won there case ...

MikeHawk · 09-02-2005, 09:57 PM

Lars...kick some ass....

MikeHawk · 09-02-2005, 10:00 PM

T-O-S VIOLATION
This link has been disabled due to a TOS and/or spam violation. Traffic is no longer accepted from this domain or address.

KCat · 09-02-2005, 10:37 PM

I wonder if that guy was is an affiliate of cams.com & built that page to promote your site, then swapped out the links to see if IFriends converts better.

Obviously still not cool using cams.com copyrighted material, but just trying to figure out what he may have been thinking.

Steen2 · 09-02-2005, 10:55 PM

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Originally Posted by SmokeyTheBear

Demanding something isn't slander, you may not get what you want , but it certainly isn't slander ( besides slander is spoken , libel is written )

Smokey, my man.

Slander and defamation are both libellous acts.

Slander is spoken.
Defamation is written.

Libel is causing harm to an entity's reputation.

Now that that's cool- let's continue

Mighty Chin · 09-02-2005, 11:05 PM

Go Get em Lars

emthree · 09-03-2005, 12:38 AM

Damn, straight jacked.
It's too easy to click save. Maybe we should all put unique hidden tags that google picks up on... this way we can find out stolen pages.

SmokeyTheBear · 09-03-2005, 01:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Steen2

Smokey, my man.

Slander and defamation are both libellous acts.

Slander is spoken.
Defamation is written.

Libel is causing harm to an entity's reputation.

Now that that's cool- let's continue

I have read the legal def's in both canada and the united states , AND consulted with lawyers for both, and i'm still uncertain as to the real answer to that.

Heres what dictionary.com says..
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slan·der ( P ) Pronunciation Key (slndr)
n.
Law. Oral communication of false statements injurious to a person's reputation

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li·bel ( P ) Pronunciation Key (lbl)
n.

A false publication, as in writing, print, signs, or pictures, that damages a person's reputation

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Cliff notes slander is spoken , libel is written ( from what they say, i have heard conflicting answers from both )

OzMan · 09-04-2005, 12:06 PM

lol this guy is a couple kangaroos short in the top paddock...

After letting all his traffic go to an Ifriends TOS violation page for a few days he is now sending it to Wegcash, still with all Lars content etc. I guess he doesn't read GFY.

jawanda · 09-04-2005, 12:20 PM

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Originally Posted by OzMan

lol this guy is a couple kangaroos short in the top paddock...

After letting all his traffic go to an Ifriends TOS violation page for a few days he is now sending it to Wegcash, still with all Lars content etc. I guess he doesn't read GFY.

Lars, looks like it's time to make another phone call.

-Phil

Crypt · 09-04-2005, 12:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OzMan

lol this guy is a couple kangaroos short in the top paddock...

After letting all his traffic go to an Ifriends TOS violation page for a few days he is now sending it to Wegcash, still with all Lars content etc. I guess he doesn't read GFY.

This thread is funny ;)

Probably the guy sent traffic to cams.com first for real , ratio sucked , so he modified links and redirected to ifriends, got canned, so moved to the next one.. lol

Edit:

And probably dont read GFY

Realpascal · 09-04-2005, 12:27 PM

Let me grab the popcorn again..

Scootermuze · 09-04-2005, 01:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MikeVega

I'm not going to take the time to look it up .... but i believe that walmart was sued by a few people for selling guns that killed family members .... don't recall if any of them won there case ...

Walmart has a slew of lawyers that do nothing but deal with lawsuits brought against them.. They have suits everyday for one thing or another..

Out Of Order · 09-04-2005, 01:20 PM

Courts have found Affiliated/Sales and Sales Reps are ultimatly responsible.

For the most part it would be Ifriends responsibility to over see there affiliates. To lazy to over see affiliates activities is Ifriends fault and they would lose in court.

baddog · 09-04-2005, 01:32 PM

can't believe the site is still up

DebsDeep · 09-05-2005, 04:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chimmy

Nope...disagree. This is not an iFriends issue. This is an iFriends affiliate issue. Same as if a teenager broke a car window with a hammer he bought at Walmart. It's the teenager that is at fault. Walmart has nothing to do with it. So, for a competitor of Walmart to try and muddy up the name of Walmart by blaming them would be irresponsible and foolish. (ie. Lars vs ifriends)

Have a nice day.

I think was Lars was saying is that ifriends needs to help get rid of this guy, I dont think he was slamming or trying to muddy up their name. Everyone knows your not suppose to do things like that to promote its plain and simply in the rules book. Lars has every right to say this, this person is stealing from him and Ifriends had better shut him down..he is right, they better.

I hope something gets done, Its not right when a webmaster works and builds something and then some loser leeches off it.

ClamSmacker · 09-05-2005, 04:39 AM

Meow, I smell pussy!

Cassie · 09-05-2005, 04:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MikeVega

I'm not going to take the time to look it up .... but i believe that walmart was sued by a few people for selling guns that killed family members .... don't recall if any of them won there case ...

kmart was and the plaintiffs won. kmart no longer sold guns or ammo after the columbine killings.

09-05-2005, 06:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Cassie

kmart was and the plaintiffs won. kmart no longer sold guns or ammo after the columbine killings.

Were they actually sued? I thought the pulling of the guns and ammo was just a voluntary PR move after Moore showed up at corporate headquarters raising a stink with those kids that were shot.

Juicy D. Links · 09-05-2005, 06:53 AM

Lars I can go and bang there wives and such and bukkake them. lmk

Nicky · 09-05-2005, 07:07 AM

bah, you need to call wegcash now Lars

mardigras · 11-12-2006, 09:31 PM

Link is parked at Sedo now...

HighSociety · 11-12-2006, 09:46 PM

this thread is older then me

babymaker · 11-12-2006, 09:55 PM

grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr who keeps bumping these old threads

fuckers!

will76 · 11-12-2006, 09:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LegendaryLars

These people are soooo bummmed , Slam dunk case and I will take all their ifriends earnings and their lame ass domain.

You sueing Zango is a slam dunk case but you think sueing people over copyrights is a waste of time remember.

See Gator cases. Gator was sued for the same thing and lost. But you know that I told you that weeks ago. You said you lawsuits are a waste of time and too expensive.

CaptainHowdy · 11-12-2006, 10:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by will76

You sueing Zango is a slam dunk case but you think sueing people over copyrights is a waste of time remember.

See Gator cases. Gator was sued for the same thing and lost. But you know that I told you that weeks ago. You said you lawsuits are a waste of time and too expensive.

I knew it

!

Amnesic · 11-12-2006, 10:01 PM

All I see is a sedo parking page..?

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