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baycouples · 09-29-2005, 05:07 AM

Anybody's heard anything on the 2257 case status?

baycouples · 09-29-2005, 11:56 AM

C'mon - there's gotta be someone who knows something about the real issues and not just here to talk about big boobs.

Mike D · 09-29-2005, 12:48 PM

Bump

Mike.......

JD · 09-29-2005, 01:51 PM

nobody knows shit.

mrkris · 09-29-2005, 02:26 PM

My girlfriend has big boobs, i feel asleep on them last night because I didn't feel good

Tat2Jr · 09-29-2005, 02:46 PM

I asked a few days ago, and didn't get a real answer, but we've GOT to be coming up on some news fast.... You need to put the word (PIC) in the title if you want a business thread to not drop off the first page in 10 seconds.

baycouples · 09-29-2005, 05:47 PM

Wow, this forum is becoming a freaking Yahoo! Group kind of a hang out

Marshal · 09-29-2005, 06:30 PM

i don't care about 2257... living in europe... :D

billywatson · 09-29-2005, 06:32 PM

I ran into Mr. Dave Cummings at AIM on Tuesday.

He said it's a matter of days, and there's going to be some news...and it might be pretty big.

imageman · 09-29-2005, 06:40 PM

Get your records in order, no matter what the news is!
Even if this bill gets defeated they will re present another modified version and another and another until one gets passed.

nicchick · 09-30-2005, 02:14 PM

At the beginning of the moth there was this item in XBiz.com

"The Free Speech Coalition (FSC) and the Justice Department have agreed to extend of the original stipulation regarding a motion for a temporary restraining order against enforcement of amended 2257 record-keeping regulations. The original stipulation, scheduled to expire Sept. 1, 2005, will now be extended for an additional 30 days, until and including Oct. 1, or until the court rules on plaintiffs? motion for preliminary injunction as requested in Free Speech Coalition et al vs. Alberto Gonzales, whichever occurs first. The case is pending in U.S District Court in Colorado.FSC attorneys said they expect a decision by U.S District Court Judge Walker D. Miller on the Plaintiff?s motion for a preliminary injunction will be rendered well before the extended deadline."

Well the new deadline is tomorrow and still nothing which leads me to believe that the FSC's posturing was a bit over the top. They gave the impression that it was pretty clear cut that the new regs would be enjoined rather quickly. The fact that they initially expected a ruling in August - and it is now a few hours away from October - makes me think that they may be in for an unpleasant surprise. I hope I'm wrong (I usually am).

Tat2Jr · 09-30-2005, 02:17 PM

Any new News? Anyone?

Matt 26z · 09-30-2005, 03:44 PM

I wish I had become a member so I could have been protected under the TRO. All these people who are not protected getting arrested and stuff now...

BoyAlley · 09-30-2005, 04:29 PM

Ok, still no word? The agreement expires tomorrow (which is a Saturday), there has been no ruling, and we've heard NOTHING from the FSC?

The FSC made a big deal about the fact that they hired a communications director, who on earth is he communicating to? Certainly not his members......

After Shock Media · 09-30-2005, 04:32 PM

Shhh no need to worry. It is only a coincidence that any rulings have been delayed while elsewhere in the country during this time the top cop has directed the aurthorties to center in on pornography cases that do not include CP.

High Plains Drifter · 09-30-2005, 04:35 PM

The people that have information about it don't like it being talked about because it affects sales.

gornyhuy · 09-30-2005, 05:10 PM

Yeah, good thing i joined so I can here NOTHING and have NO FUCKING INFORMATION.

hehehe...

my adult activities have ground to a complete halt while I await the outcome.

bigdog · 09-30-2005, 06:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Matt 26z

I wish I had become a member so I could have been protected under the TRO. All these people who are not protected getting arrested and stuff now...

hide under the bed and lock the door

Tat2Jr · 09-30-2005, 07:50 PM

Is there anybody out there?

BeatingSkull · 09-30-2005, 08:09 PM

ok. i can see the relvancy of 2257 issues with paysites, sponsor sites, content producers, etc.

what exactly does 2257 mean to the affiliates, the freesites, tgps, linklists, gallery makers, etc..

are we required to list on our site, for every sigle gallery linked or hosted, a page with 2257 info. that will be a huge project in itself. If a particular site has 1000 freehosted galleries, then the webmaster would have to research the 2257 info for each gallery & make a page listing the info.

I do seriously believe that any webmaster promoting sponsor sites should verify & confirm that all fhg linked to from your sites have a 2257 compliance notice linked from the galleries, if not, remove them, or contact the sponsor to edit it in.

all these issues regarding 2257 changes & the fbi antiporn war can all be very detrimental to any one of our businesses. we need to co-operate & do everything we can to protect ourselves & our businesses.

I just contacted my attorney to find out what he knows about the 2257 changes, but unfortunately he is on a flight to holland, so could not research it for me, but i should know something by monday when i can chat with him.

fitzmulti · 09-30-2005, 08:55 PM

Nothing - but the same shit happenned back in 1995...stir up the kettle, and nothing....
:P

Fitz

slapass · 09-30-2005, 09:10 PM

a bump for an actual thread that effects webmasters. I would hate to drop a "would you hit it" off the board but such is life.

Redrob · 09-30-2005, 10:41 PM

I will call the FSC office on Monday morning and post an update on GFY. I don't think there has been any decision by the Judge that I know of. We are all waiting.

I will send an email to Michelle and ask her or Tom to post any information to GFY as soon as it becomes available.

If you have not received a membership confirmation, please email me and I'll look into it for you. I'd be glad to help.

Again, we are all waiting, and waiting, and waiting.......

Tat2Jr · 10-01-2005, 12:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Redrob

I will call the FSC office on Monday morning and post an update on GFY. I don't think there has been any decision by the Judge that I know of. We are all waiting.

I will send an email to Michelle and ask her or Tom to post any information to GFY as soon as it becomes available.

If you have not received a membership confirmation, please email me and I'll look into it for you. I'd be glad to help.

Again, we are all waiting, and waiting, and waiting.......

Thanks for the update! Glad to hear something. Keep us posted!

Redrob · 10-01-2005, 01:01 PM

2257 Stipulated Agreement Extended for One Month

Denver, Co. ? A motion was filed in the U.S. District Court of Colorado late yesterday that extends for another month the original stipulated agreement between the parties for a temporary restraining order (TRO) in Free Speech Coalition et al v. Alberto Gonzales.

The extension will terminate October 31, 2005, or until the Court rules on Plaintiffs? motion for preliminary injunction, whichever occurs first. During that time period, the Justice Department is restrained from inspecting or enforcing U.S.C. 18 § 2257 against plaintiffs in the case, which includes all members of the Free Speech Coalition.

Terms of the original stipulation are once more maintained intact, and it is still the expectation of the attorneys for the Free Speech Coalition that a decision by U.S District Court Judge Walker D. Miller on the Plaintiff?s motion for a preliminary injunction will be rendered soon.

The Free Speech Coalition would like to thank its members and the adult community for their support during this time period, and also express appreciation to its peerless free speech attorneys, and to the U.S. Justice Department for its cooperation during the process working out the details of the extension of the stipulated agreement.

Free Speech Coalition is the trade organization of the adult entertainment industry. Its mission is to safeguard the industry from oppressive governmental regulation and to promote good business practices within the industry.

Note: I also posted this information to new tread.

2257-Ben · 10-02-2005, 04:32 PM

For those of you who do not have a 2257 record keeping solution in place, there is a new demo up on our web site for 2257 MAVIS and the SCAT (Server Content Analysis Tool) module which will shave months off your 2257 record keeping chores.

You can see the demo by going to http://www.2257ware.com and clicking on the Products link and then clicking on the Spider Edition link.

If you have any questions at all, please be sure to hit me up on ICQ.

Peace · 10-04-2005, 09:08 PM

so what is new now? Any good or bed news....One thing for sure need to have records in order...

Hornydog4cooter · 11-30-2005, 12:44 PM

Any updates Redrob?

JD · 11-30-2005, 12:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hornydog4cooter

Any updates Redrob?

well placed bump

09-29-2005, 05:07 AM	#1
baycouples Confirmed User Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: San Jose, CA Posts: 1,341	Any 2257 updates? Anybody's heard anything on the 2257 case status?

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09-29-2005, 02:46 PM	#6
Tat2Jr Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: Sunny California Posts: 4,882	I asked a few days ago, and didn't get a real answer, but we've GOT to be coming up on some news fast.... You need to put the word (PIC) in the title if you want a business thread to not drop off the first page in 10 seconds. __________________ NICHE MONEY >> Ass Worship • Panties • Solo Teen • Pantyhose Serving up exclusive fetish sites since 1997!

09-29-2005, 06:30 PM	#8
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09-29-2005, 11:56 AM	#2
baycouples Confirmed User Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: San Jose, CA Posts: 1,341	C'mon - there's gotta be someone who knows something about the real issues and not just here to talk about big boobs.

09-29-2005, 01:51 PM	#4
JD Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: Sep 2003 Posts: 22,651	nobody knows shit.

09-29-2005, 05:47 PM	#7
baycouples Confirmed User Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: San Jose, CA Posts: 1,341	Wow, this forum is becoming a freaking Yahoo! Group kind of a hang out

09-29-2005, 06:32 PM	#9
billywatson Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: The Valley o' Smut. Posts: 3,281	I ran into Mr. Dave Cummings at AIM on Tuesday. He said it's a matter of days, and there's going to be some news...and it might be pretty big. __________________ We're Fabulous! PROTECT YOUR CONTENT on Twitter I Shoot Porn.

09-29-2005, 06:40 PM	#10
imageman Confirmed User Join Date: Jun 2003 Posts: 1,938	My advice would be Get your records in order, no matter what the news is! Even if this bill gets defeated they will re present another modified version and another and another until one gets passed.

09-30-2005, 02:14 PM	#11
nicchick Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2003 Posts: 316	At the beginning of the moth there was this item in XBiz.com "The Free Speech Coalition (FSC) and the Justice Department have agreed to extend of the original stipulation regarding a motion for a temporary restraining order against enforcement of amended 2257 record-keeping regulations. The original stipulation, scheduled to expire Sept. 1, 2005, will now be extended for an additional 30 days, until and including Oct. 1, or until the court rules on plaintiffs? motion for preliminary injunction as requested in Free Speech Coalition et al vs. Alberto Gonzales, whichever occurs first. The case is pending in U.S District Court in Colorado.FSC attorneys said they expect a decision by U.S District Court Judge Walker D. Miller on the Plaintiff?s motion for a preliminary injunction will be rendered well before the extended deadline." Well the new deadline is tomorrow and still nothing which leads me to believe that the FSC's posturing was a bit over the top. They gave the impression that it was pretty clear cut that the new regs would be enjoined rather quickly. The fact that they initially expected a ruling in August - and it is now a few hours away from October - makes me think that they may be in for an unpleasant surprise. I hope I'm wrong (I usually am).

09-30-2005, 02:17 PM	#12
Tat2Jr Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: Sunny California Posts: 4,882	Any new News? Anyone? __________________ NICHE MONEY >> Ass Worship • Panties • Solo Teen • Pantyhose Serving up exclusive fetish sites since 1997!

09-30-2005, 03:44 PM	#13
Matt 26z So Fucking Banned Industry Role: Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: ¤ª"˜¨๑۩۞۩๑¨˜"ª¤ Posts: 18,481	I wish I had become a member so I could have been protected under the TRO. All these people who are not protected getting arrested and stuff now...

09-30-2005, 04:29 PM	#14
BoyAlley So Fucking Gay Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 19,714	Ok, still no word? The agreement expires tomorrow (which is a Saturday), there has been no ruling, and we've heard NOTHING from the FSC? The FSC made a big deal about the fact that they hired a communications director, who on earth is he communicating to? Certainly not his members...... Last edited by BoyAlley; 09-30-2005 at 04:31 PM..

09-30-2005, 04:32 PM	#15
After Shock Media It's coming look busy Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: "Ph'nglui mglw'nafh Cthulhu R'lyeh wgah'nagl fhtagn". Posts: 35,299	Shhh no need to worry. It is only a coincidence that any rulings have been delayed while elsewhere in the country during this time the top cop has directed the aurthorties to center in on pornography cases that do not include CP. __________________ [email protected] ICQ:135982156 AIM: Aftershockmed1a MSN: [email protected]

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09-30-2005, 05:10 PM	#17
gornyhuy Chafed. Join Date: May 2002 Location: Face Down in Pussy Posts: 18,041	Yeah, good thing i joined so I can here NOTHING and have NO FUCKING INFORMATION. hehehe... my adult activities have ground to a complete halt while I await the outcome. __________________ icq:159548293

09-30-2005, 07:50 PM	#19
Tat2Jr Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: Sunny California Posts: 4,882	Is there anybody out there? __________________ NICHE MONEY >> Ass Worship • Panties • Solo Teen • Pantyhose Serving up exclusive fetish sites since 1997!

09-30-2005, 08:09 PM	#20
BeatingSkull Confirmed User Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: The Confederate States of America Posts: 713	ok. i can see the relvancy of 2257 issues with paysites, sponsor sites, content producers, etc. what exactly does 2257 mean to the affiliates, the freesites, tgps, linklists, gallery makers, etc.. are we required to list on our site, for every sigle gallery linked or hosted, a page with 2257 info. that will be a huge project in itself. If a particular site has 1000 freehosted galleries, then the webmaster would have to research the 2257 info for each gallery & make a page listing the info. I do seriously believe that any webmaster promoting sponsor sites should verify & confirm that all fhg linked to from your sites have a 2257 compliance notice linked from the galleries, if not, remove them, or contact the sponsor to edit it in. all these issues regarding 2257 changes & the fbi antiporn war can all be very detrimental to any one of our businesses. we need to co-operate & do everything we can to protect ourselves & our businesses. I just contacted my attorney to find out what he knows about the 2257 changes, but unfortunately he is on a flight to holland, so could not research it for me, but i should know something by monday when i can chat with him.

09-30-2005, 08:55 PM	#21
fitzmulti I Like Depth Of Field! Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Las Vegas, NV, USA: 36.12318 N, 115.090219 W Posts: 14,861	Nothing - but the same shit happenned back in 1995...stir up the kettle, and nothing.... :P Fitz __________________ www.SexyGirlsCash.com CONTACT // FITZMULTI AT GMAIL.COM // {Please include a message so I know you are from GFY! I get too many spam "add requests"!}

09-30-2005, 09:10 PM	#22
slapass Too lazy to set a custom title Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Earth Posts: 14,622	a bump for an actual thread that effects webmasters. I would hate to drop a "would you hit it" off the board but such is life.

09-30-2005, 10:41 PM	#23
Redrob Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: In a refrigerator box by the tracks. Posts: 4,791	I will call the FSC office on Monday morning and post an update on GFY. I don't think there has been any decision by the Judge that I know of. We are all waiting. I will send an email to Michelle and ask her or Tom to post any information to GFY as soon as it becomes available. If you have not received a membership confirmation, please email me and I'll look into it for you. I'd be glad to help. Again, we are all waiting, and waiting, and waiting.......

10-01-2005, 01:01 PM	#25
Redrob Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: In a refrigerator box by the tracks. Posts: 4,791	2257 Stipulated Agreement Extended for One Month Denver, Co. ? A motion was filed in the U.S. District Court of Colorado late yesterday that extends for another month the original stipulated agreement between the parties for a temporary restraining order (TRO) in Free Speech Coalition et al v. Alberto Gonzales. The extension will terminate October 31, 2005, or until the Court rules on Plaintiffs? motion for preliminary injunction, whichever occurs first. During that time period, the Justice Department is restrained from inspecting or enforcing U.S.C. 18 § 2257 against plaintiffs in the case, which includes all members of the Free Speech Coalition. Terms of the original stipulation are once more maintained intact, and it is still the expectation of the attorneys for the Free Speech Coalition that a decision by U.S District Court Judge Walker D. Miller on the Plaintiff?s motion for a preliminary injunction will be rendered soon. The Free Speech Coalition would like to thank its members and the adult community for their support during this time period, and also express appreciation to its peerless free speech attorneys, and to the U.S. Justice Department for its cooperation during the process working out the details of the extension of the stipulated agreement. Free Speech Coalition is the trade organization of the adult entertainment industry. Its mission is to safeguard the industry from oppressive governmental regulation and to promote good business practices within the industry. Note: I also posted this information to new tread.

10-02-2005, 04:32 PM	#26
2257-Ben Confirmed User Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Dinuba, CA Posts: 633	For those of you who do not have a 2257 record keeping solution in place, there is a new demo up on our web site for 2257 MAVIS and the SCAT (Server Content Analysis Tool) module which will shave months off your 2257 record keeping chores. You can see the demo by going to http://www.2257ware.com and clicking on the Products link and then clicking on the Spider Edition link. If you have any questions at all, please be sure to hit me up on ICQ. __________________ 2257-Ben www.2257ware.com The BEST, most compliant 2257 record-keeping software available. Period.

10-04-2005, 09:08 PM	#27
Peace Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: NY and Moscow Posts: 5,519	so what is new now? Any good or bed news....One thing for sure need to have records in order... __________________ Need Custom or Licensed Content? Visit PhotoVideoContent.com Email: [email protected] / Telegram: @romatibet / Skype: Peace888

11-30-2005, 12:44 PM	#28
Hornydog4cooter Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 2,859	Any updates Redrob?