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a1ka1ine · 10-23-2005, 01:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Mutt

HA! In January after Ashley pulled an act of incredible ingratitude and irresponsibility that involved both my partner and friend Marco Pallotti - Marco said those very words to me.

and i still cant believe you continued after then, you have way too much patience!

effer · 10-23-2005, 01:42 PM

Something to blog about.

Mutt · 10-23-2005, 01:42 PM

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Originally Posted by GetNaughty

WTF?

Mutt didnt get 50% or a % of the site? You made a big mistake Ash. And yes, he needs to be repaid. If he wasnt such a great guy he would launch a site with his content I bet and then he could make his money back.

this isn't about money - never was, never will be. this is about CHARACTER.
i told Ashley a year ago I would never make a dime off her naked butt and that's the way it will remain.

tapatio · 10-23-2005, 01:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Sly

Can anyone tell me where "Teen Kelly" is right now?

Silvercash?

xlogger · 10-23-2005, 01:42 PM

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Originally Posted by justsexxx

is 18333 per month /30 days a month is 600USD a day...like 20 joins a day?

How old is this little girl? Cant be older than me.

She makes $600/day? Wtfffffffff, thats more than what i make.

But after all this bullshit, i bet the $ will go way down. Which means i will be making more than her.

Young · 10-23-2005, 01:42 PM

By the way both sides are responding to this. It almost seems like it goes deeper than just business issues. hope you guys get it figured out.

Mutt · 10-23-2005, 01:45 PM

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Originally Posted by effer

Something to blog about.

there is a full account of this saga ready to be published - i won't do that to Ashley - unless I am given another moment of stress from her over this entire affair.

bigdog · 10-23-2005, 01:47 PM

mutt have you offered ashley to buy the pics from you?

tapatio · 10-23-2005, 01:47 PM

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Originally Posted by justsexxx

110.000USD in let's say 6 months?

is 18333 per month /30 days a month is 600USD a day...like 20 joins a day?

That is not good, or did I miss something?

Affiliate payouts of 50%

Anna_O · 10-23-2005, 01:49 PM

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Originally Posted by tapatio

Affiliate payouts of 50%

He said it was Net.

sonofsam · 10-23-2005, 01:49 PM

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Originally Posted by justsexxx

110.000USD in let's say 6 months?

is 18333 per month /30 days a month is 600USD a day...like 20 joins a day?

That is not good, or did I miss something?

justsexxxx: i run a solo site and i know of other solo site owners... and i can tell you 20 joins a day is not only good, but its great....

Drake · 10-23-2005, 01:49 PM

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Originally Posted by justsexxx

110.000USD in let's say 6 months?

is 18333 per month /30 days a month is 600USD a day...like 20 joins a day?

That is not good, or did I miss something?

But he said NET, so I assume that's after 50% affiliate payout, hosting, etc.

Drake · 10-23-2005, 01:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Mutt

this isn't about money - never was, never will be. this is about CHARACTER.
i told Ashley a year ago I would never make a dime off her naked butt and that's the way it will remain.

I didn't know people like you existed.... especially in this industry.

LexiLexxx · 10-23-2005, 01:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Young

By the way both sides are responding to this. It almost seems like it goes deeper than just business issues. hope you guys get it figured out.

Bingo!!!!!

Get your girls under contracts....both parties.

Shoot'em and let them go, if you choose, both parties.

Don't mix business with pleasure....both parties.

Don't get to greedy about the $$...both parties.

I have even seen this from a Female webmasters/with single solo girl sites, as well.

Whoa...tough business!

tapatio · 10-23-2005, 01:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Anna_O

He said it was Net.

yes that is why it would be more than 20 sales a day

Sly · 10-23-2005, 01:55 PM

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Originally Posted by justsexxx

110.000USD in let's say 6 months?

is 18333 per month /30 days a month is 600USD a day...like 20 joins a day?

That is not good, or did I miss something?

How is $110k in 6 months "not good"? Ok, so she isn't the CEO of IBM earning many millions of dollars a year... but how can someone ever consider $110k in 6 months "not good"?

justsexxx · 10-23-2005, 01:55 PM

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Originally Posted by sonofsam

justsexxxx: i run a solo site and i know of other solo site owners... and i can tell you 20 joins a day is not only good, but its great....

Uhm okay. Then it's great

I know we won't be happy when we would do 20 a day with our solo sites...

Shoehorn! · 10-23-2005, 01:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Mutt

this isn't about money - never was, never will be. this is about CHARACTER.
i told Ashley a year ago I would never make a dime off her naked butt and that's the way it will remain.

That's definately a VERY rare quality in a person. It's too bad you got fucked over, but at least GFY now sees each person for who they are.

sonofsam · 10-23-2005, 01:58 PM

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Originally Posted by justsexxx

Uhm okay. Then it's great

I know we won't be happy when we would do 20 a day with our solo sites...

i love your sites... they are amazing, so its no suprise you do so well with them

but i can personally say i would be happy as hell to have 20signups/day on julia blue

Mutt · 10-23-2005, 01:59 PM

i know the single girl niche - more than I did a year ago that's for sure - her site did GREAT. And with the proper attention and responsibility the sky was the limit for Ashley. A $300,000 a year income for herself for 2-3 years, possibly more but I realize that Ashley isn't a 30 or 40 year male, so I told her I don't expect her to live the life many of us do - 6 hours a day 5 days a week of concentrated work is all i would ever ask of her - and she'd be smilin' - because as models go - she is 'special'.

I watched with an ever growing sick feeling in my stomach watch her begin to just let it all go down the drain. And I never gave up - http://www.ashcash.net/the_new_ashcash - this was completed after 4 days work from me, just a few weeks ago, the programmer was ready to get going on it - i woke up the next morning to find an email in my inbox from a concerned member/friend of Ashley's - he wanted to let me know that Ashley once again had promised to do something and it apparently hadn't been done - it was the first time i had been in her members area in awhile so i took a look around - there I found on her messageboard a nice little note that Ashley had decided to cancel YET ANOTHER camshow - she does one camshow a week - she was too busy with other things for the camshow. I had had enough. I realized at that moment nothing would ever change with Ashley this time around.

AshleyBrookes · 10-23-2005, 02:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Mutt

there is a full account of this saga ready to be published - i won't do that to Ashley - unless I am given another moment of stress from her over this entire affair.

Mutt, I'm not trying to cause you any more stress. I would like to work things out. I'm talking to your programmer about payment right now.

AshleyBrookes · 10-23-2005, 02:04 PM

Mutt - how much do you want for the content of me that you own?

justsexxx · 10-23-2005, 02:05 PM

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Originally Posted by AshleyBrookes

Mutt - how much do you want for the content of me that you own?

DOn't you have his phone/email? Jeez how sad

MaDalton · 10-23-2005, 02:07 PM

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Originally Posted by AshleyBrookes

Yes Mutt, you guys were great in a business sense. I don't know where I would be without you - but it was not the business side of things that broke this up. I can't ever repay you for the time and effort you put into my site, but I will try...
After finally making the decision to go my own way, which was a very hard decision - I have had to look back at all the things you really did on the business side and I'm very greatful...but I need to be on my own and really learn and understand what it takes to make a site workable. I have talked to a lot of people and have recieved a lot of great advice from all of you - and thank you guys so much!
When all this started, I didn't really see how much work was really going on.
Mutt, I would love to find some way to repay you for all your hard work. Maybe I can send you all my exit traffic or something - but I really need to start looking at this as a business and taking care of it myself.
Yes, Mutt, you built a great foundation, but we know that's not the issue. I would be happy to discuss ways I can help you as a repayment in strictly a business manner.
AshCash and AshleyBrookes are now strictly under my control. Something like this will never happen again. I am really excited to work with those of you that stay with me and look forward to having fun coming up with new things to help you guys make more money!
My ICQ will be open to all affiliates, I'd love to hear your ideas on what you need to make more money.

with this bullshit you are a perfect example why people like you shoudn't be involved in the business and just get their ass in front of the camera. you just ruined your life, your career and did a huge damage to the single girl niche in general. it would be the best you switch off your computer and apply for a job at McDonalds. thank you

and Mutt: sorry to read that, man. i feel for you

LiveDose · 10-23-2005, 02:08 PM

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Originally Posted by justsexxx

Some things have come up and I'm asking all of my affiliates to please remove all links to my site. I'm sorting a copyright situation with some of my content. I'm also taking this opportunity to switch to NATS.
Hang in there! The site will be bigger and better once it's back up within the week and I'll also be offering a higher percentage for a while, so take advantage of it! You'll also have brand new promotional material to work with. I also plan on taking requests for fan signs (video and/or pictures)from all my active affiliates. I'll be sending out an email once everything is up and running. Stay tuned!

Jeez, no way I ever gonna promote a site again, that is asking to remove ALL links. What a joke

Just read that email too. Fuckin' so casual about it. Annoying as hell.

Dirty Dane · 10-23-2005, 02:08 PM

I dont get this. There are no copyright on links, is it? If new site is up soon, it will be easier for some of us to just change the links then... and redirect the 10k SE traffic until then

AshleyBrookes · 10-23-2005, 02:09 PM

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Originally Posted by justsexxx

DOn't you have his phone/email? Jeez how sad

I know that would be the best way - but I want it perfectly clear that I'm trying to resolve this issue.

sltr · 10-23-2005, 02:09 PM

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Originally Posted by justsexxx

Uhm okay. Then it's great

I know we won't be happy when we would do 20 a day with our solo sites...

Zing!

Mutt · 10-23-2005, 02:11 PM

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Originally Posted by AshleyBrookes

Mutt - how much do you want for the content of me that you own?

Ashley Ashley Ashley - you more than ANYBODY know this was not about money. you were not built a site and a program to make you as much money as possible - that was PART of it - but only a part of it. I don't work for ANYBODY - i have offers all the time to design, build, create for others - they are all turned down.

you go home and you begin the process of growing up finally.

MadCat · 10-23-2005, 02:11 PM

links removed, you fucking cunt

Fletch XXX · 10-23-2005, 02:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Mutt

Ashley Ashley Ashley - you more than ANYBODY know this was not about money. you were not built a site and a program to make you as much money as possible - that was PART of it - but only a part of it. I don't work for ANYBODY - i have offers all the time to design, build, create for others - they are all turned down.

you go home and you begin the process of growing up finally.

dude just sell her the content so us affiliates can move the fuck on and leave this personal bullshit out???

justsexxx · 10-23-2005, 02:16 PM

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Originally Posted by sltr

Zing!

What you mean sir? You agree on me? Or?

Sly · 10-23-2005, 02:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Fletch XXX

dude just sell her the content so us affiliates can move the fuck on and leave this personal bullshit out???

I agree. I don't see why Ashley can't buy the content, design, programming, or whatever. It may be a pride issue, a lesson to be taught, whatever... people ARE getting fucked on this deal. It would be nice if Ashley could just keep the site up.

AshleyBrookes · 10-23-2005, 02:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Mutt

Ashley Ashley Ashley - you more than ANYBODY know this was not about money. you were not built a site and a program to make you as much money as possible - that was PART of it - but only a part of it.

I know Mutt - it's the other part that I don't agree with and never did.
Sorry guys - I guess I take the site down for a week.

bigdog · 10-23-2005, 02:20 PM

Mutt were most of her signups from affilates, or inhouse? If they are mostly from affilates she is going to have a hard time coming back

Fletch XXX · 10-23-2005, 02:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Sly

I agree. I don't see why Ashley can't buy the content, design, programming, or whatever. It may be a pride issue, a lesson to be taught, whatever... people ARE getting fucked on this deal. It would be nice if Ashley could just keep the site up.

Precisely and its how this is handled now that will count.

She offered to buy and I think we would all rather just not have this personal issues shit cost us money.

Whomever chooses to fuck all of us affiliates over, will not be forgotten. SOmeone needs to set this shit right.

And fuck pride, and leave your personal bullshit at the door.

sltr · 10-23-2005, 02:22 PM

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Originally Posted by justsexxx

What you mean sir? You agree on me? Or?

yup, totally agree

Easton · 10-23-2005, 02:23 PM

wow, this is pretty surreal

justsexxx · 10-23-2005, 02:24 PM

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Originally Posted by sltr

yup, totally agree

Okay :-) Well it's funny to see how many joins certain so called "big" sponsors do anyway

sltr · 10-23-2005, 02:25 PM

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Originally Posted by justsexxx

Okay :-) Well it's funny to see how many joins certain so called "big" sponsors do anyway

exactly

webgurl · 10-23-2005, 02:25 PM

mutt- question , what are you going to do with ashley's content anyways
if you don't offer it back to her ?
Hope you are not keeping it for cruel intentions

Mutt · 10-23-2005, 02:29 PM

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Originally Posted by AshleyBrookes

I know Mutt - it's the other part that I don't agree with and never did.
Sorry guys - I guess I take the site down for a week.

i know you never agreed with the other part - and that's why you are where you are right now. you are 22 years old and haven't done an honest day's work in years - maybe ever. you use people, you discard people, you are a spoiled brat. i told you that these people called 'affiliates' are YOUR partners - they put a TON of work into what they do and they expect YOU to do the same for them. Now you tell everybody on GFY or send out an affiliate mailing and tell them what you did for the past year - and more importantly for the past 7 months while you took their traffic. Tell them where you were when they came to me on ICQ asking 'Did Ashley put me on ignore?' 'Where's Ashley? I dont see her around anymore" "I emailed Ashley six times but I get no replies" Tell AmateurIndex where their tshirt fan pics are, tell Spunky where his thong pics are, tell FreeOnes where there logo photoset is .................. and it goes on and on and on ........

tragedy · 10-23-2005, 02:29 PM

Hmmm. Is Ashley just another flaky model or is she making a powerplay?

2Pac · 10-23-2005, 02:39 PM

there will be no happy ending in this movie

Kard63 · 10-23-2005, 02:40 PM

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Originally Posted by AshleyBrookes

I know Mutt - it's the other part that I don't agree with and never did.

But she temporarily agreed to use yoru ass? Is that what this means?

mn · 10-23-2005, 02:41 PM

The few links I had = removed. Site added to blacklist on my TGP:s (because I care for my submitters).

LexiLexxx · 10-23-2005, 02:43 PM

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Originally Posted by MadCat

links removed, you fucking cunt

That was uncalled for man...that should be a stike 1, some of your stuff is really borderline :-(

Juicy D. Links · 10-23-2005, 02:43 PM

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Pleasurepays · 10-23-2005, 02:46 PM

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Originally Posted by LexiLexxx

If it wasn't for Models, where would most of you be working? Mainstream?

thats a typically female perspective. There are ALWAYS models and NO MODEL is special. You're just a commodity that is bought, sold and traded... end of story. What makes a girl special is when she realizes this, she is mature, she is easy to work with, she shows up on time and she realizes that she needs everyone around her to make it work. Its not like there is a shortage of girls who will get naked on a site.

justsexxx · 10-23-2005, 02:51 PM

I agree, it's not only the "model" that matters, even so important is the marketing...

10-23-2005, 01:42 PM	#102
effer Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 135	Something to blog about. __________________ www.RapidTeens.com

10-23-2005, 01:42 PM	#106
Young Bland for life Industry Role: Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 10,468	By the way both sides are responding to this. It almost seems like it goes deeper than just business issues. hope you guys get it figured out. __________________ ★★★

10-23-2005, 01:59 PM	#120
Mutt Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: Sep 2002 Posts: 34,431	i know the single girl niche - more than I did a year ago that's for sure - her site did GREAT. And with the proper attention and responsibility the sky was the limit for Ashley. A $300,000 a year income for herself for 2-3 years, possibly more but I realize that Ashley isn't a 30 or 40 year male, so I told her I don't expect her to live the life many of us do - 6 hours a day 5 days a week of concentrated work is all i would ever ask of her - and she'd be smilin' - because as models go - she is 'special'. I watched with an ever growing sick feeling in my stomach watch her begin to just let it all go down the drain. And I never gave up - http://www.ashcash.net/the_new_ashcash - this was completed after 4 days work from me, just a few weeks ago, the programmer was ready to get going on it - i woke up the next morning to find an email in my inbox from a concerned member/friend of Ashley's - he wanted to let me know that Ashley once again had promised to do something and it apparently hadn't been done - it was the first time i had been in her members area in awhile so i took a look around - there I found on her messageboard a nice little note that Ashley had decided to cancel YET ANOTHER camshow - she does one camshow a week - she was too busy with other things for the camshow. I had had enough. I realized at that moment nothing would ever change with Ashley this time around. __________________ I moved my sites to Vacares Hosting. I've saved money, my hair is thicker, lost some weight too! Thanks Sly! Last edited by Mutt; 10-23-2005 at 02:02 PM..

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Dirty Dane Sick Fuck Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: www Posts: 9,491	I dont get this. There are no copyright on links, is it? If new site is up soon, it will be easier for some of us to just change the links then... and redirect the 10k SE traffic until then

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MadCat So Fucking Banned Join Date: Aug 2002 Posts: 696	links removed, you fucking cunt

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bigdog Confirmed User Join Date: Jul 2001 Posts: 6,964	Mutt were most of her signups from affilates, or inhouse? If they are mostly from affilates she is going to have a hard time coming back

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mn Confirmed User Join Date: Oct 2001 Posts: 1,505	The few links I had = removed. Site added to blacklist on my TGP:s (because I care for my submitters).

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10-23-2005, 02:51 PM	#150
justsexxx Too lazy to set a custom title Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: The Netherlands Posts: 13,724	I agree, it's not only the "model" that matters, even so important is the marketing... __________________ Questions? ICQ: 125184542