need i remind you that matrix content gave its webamster list to Acacia? - GoFuckYourself.com

brand0n · 10-25-2005, 12:37 PM

you people are so fuckin funny.

you bump heads with this guy over his fuckin camera.. his fucking camera? and yet no one mentions a word to him about the fact that him and his company, to save there own ass sold ALOT of us out.

get your fucking prioritys straight.

fuck that camera, he can stick that up his fucking ass and take pov tonsil pics as far as im conserned.

why not back him into a corner and have him address a reall issue. the fact that his company handed alot of us over on a silver platter to save there own fucking skin.

anyways, get back to the would you hit it threads.....

TheMob · 10-25-2005, 12:38 PM

what did they do?

brand0n · 10-25-2005, 12:42 PM

they handed over there buyers list in some sort of deal to save there selfs.

in other words 100s of webmasters got letters from acacia directly due to them.

SilentKnight · 10-25-2005, 12:42 PM

I was never aware of his past history. I don't tune in for all the episodes of the soap opera.

SilentKnight

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www.fetishopolis.com
www.chamberofchains.com

Monique Niccole · 10-25-2005, 12:45 PM

I think it was mentioned a couple of times in that thread. People remember. That's why they got beat up so badly in that thread. Otherwise everyone would have brused it off as just another shitty photographer.

brand0n · 10-25-2005, 12:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SilentKnight

I was never aware of his past history. I don't tune in for all the episodes of the soap opera.

SilentKnight

always best to close your eyes and hope it dont happen to you.

Far-L · 10-25-2005, 12:49 PM

Matrix wasn't the only ones to hand over lists...

Cybererotica, Porndollar, and quite a few others did too...

Hope they are all enjoying the audits and the license fees... the benefits of their "business decisions".

SilentKnight · 10-25-2005, 12:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by brand0n

always best to close your eyes and hope it dont happen to you.

From what I gather...this little drama took place before I signed aboard here at GFY.

Besides that, Acacia doesn't concern us. We don't produce streaming video.

SilentKnight

www.kastlearchives.com
www.fetishopolis.com
www.chamberofchains.com

directfiesta · 10-25-2005, 12:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SilentKnight

From what I gather...this little drama took place before I signed aboard here at GFY.

Besides that, Acacia doesn't concern us. We don't produce streaming video.

SilentKnight

www.kastlearchives.com
www.fetishopolis.com
www.chamberofchains.com

lol...LOL .....LOL

Far-L · 10-25-2005, 12:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SilentKnight

From what I gather...this little drama took place before I signed aboard here at GFY.

Besides that, Acacia doesn't concern us. We don't produce streaming video.

SilentKnight

www.kastlearchives.com
www.fetishopolis.com
www.chamberofchains.com

That doesn't matter to Acacia... they want you to pay if you so much as link to a sponsor that has streams. And that does include you by the looks of it...

Peaches · 10-25-2005, 01:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Far-L

Matrix wasn't the only ones to hand over lists...

Cybererotica, Porndollar, and quite a few others did too...

Hope they are all enjoying the audits and the license fees... the benefits of their "business decisions".

I had a Cybererotica account - can't remember if I had one with Porndollar or not (I don't THINK I did) and I didn't have one with Matrix. I never got any Acacia letters. Wouldn't I have if CE handed their list over?

Dirty F · 10-25-2005, 01:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SilentKnight

I was never aware of his past history. I don't tune in for all the episodes of the soap opera.

SilentKnight

www.kastlearchives.com
www.fetishopolis.com
www.chamberofchains.com

Dude, i have sigs turned off for a reason.
I dont want to see your sig.

sextoyking · 10-25-2005, 01:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Peaches

I had a Cybererotica account - can't remember if I had one with Porndollar or not (I don't THINK I did) and I didn't have one with Matrix. I never got any Acacia letters. Wouldn't I have if CE handed their list over?

So true Peaches

CE still rocking after what 8-9 years!

SilentKnight · 10-25-2005, 01:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Franck

Dude, i have sigs turned off for a reason.
I dont want to see your sig.

Try this - avert eyes.

But just for you...I'll leave it out in this reply, and spare your retinas.

SilentKnight

AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE · 10-25-2005, 01:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by brand0n

the fact that his company handed alot of us over on a silver platter to save there own fucking skin.

Really? I think you should maybe post some proof to that statement or be banned.

Dirty F · 10-25-2005, 01:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SilentKnight

Try this - avert eyes.

But just for you...I'll leave it out in this reply, and spare your retinas.

SilentKnight

Dude, just get a normal sig in your user cp and you can leave it on in every post. I wont see it that way. Its not magic you know.

AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE · 10-25-2005, 01:17 PM

And look at Far L going into Slander again.

Pathetic.

Double L · 10-25-2005, 01:22 PM

Yeah, they weren't the only sellouts, but never again will I buy Matrix content.

jimthefiend · 10-25-2005, 01:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by brand0n

you people are so fuckin funny.

you bump heads with this guy over his fuckin camera.. his fucking camera? and yet no one mentions a word to him about the fact that him and his company, to save there own ass sold ALOT of us out.

get your fucking prioritys straight.

fuck that camera, he can stick that up his fucking ass and take pov tonsil pics as far as im conserned.

why not back him into a corner and have him address a reall issue. the fact that his company handed alot of us over on a silver platter to save there own fucking skin.

anyways, get back to the would you hit it threads.....

I was waiting for someone to point that out. I'd have done it myself, but you know me, Im afraid of confrontation.

brand0n · 10-25-2005, 01:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AlienQ

Really? I think you should maybe post some proof to that statement or be banned.

really, and i dont give 2 shakes of a dogs cock what you think.

news flash for ya bozo, you can step off your fucking high horse and remember you are JUST a fucking designer here. an avg designer at that.

when your name hits supermod list, then you can come up with who gets banned for when and when, but ive got dollars to donuts that will never happen.

AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE · 10-25-2005, 01:27 PM

But where is the proof Brand0n?

Alot of you folks just assumed when that went down and in the hysteria it as driven that Matrix did it, and even more chose to hate on Matrix for thier success.

You're call here is unsubstantiated without proof.
You know something I do not or other do not?
Cuz I got alot of info pal.

Far-L · 10-25-2005, 01:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AlienQ

And look at Far L going into Slander again.

Pathetic.

I wouldn't be posting that if I did not know it for a fact.

Fool.

Far-L · 10-25-2005, 01:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AlienQ

And look at Far L going into Slander again.

Pathetic.

Moron... go back to school... you don't even know the difference between slander and libel.

brand0n · 10-25-2005, 01:41 PM

slander is spoken, libel is the word you are looking for

and you want proof.

well as for me its this simple. i misspelled my last name with matrix when i signed up for them. a very very uncommon misspell, done in a drunken state.

low and behold, right on my paper work, same misspelling.

and im not the only one by far. why not do some research seeing you got all this info. see that search tab up there? works like a fucking charm (currently)

type in "acacia", "acacia matrix", "matrix acacia" or any combo you can come up with and watch the responses roll in

but ofcourse like every thread YOU know more then anyone else. YOU have the inside track and are clued in with play by plays by all the major players in this game. You know more then me on this.

question "pal" did you even get a letter?

Far-L · 10-25-2005, 01:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Peaches

I had a Cybererotica account - can't remember if I had one with Porndollar or not (I don't THINK I did) and I didn't have one with Matrix. I never got any Acacia letters. Wouldn't I have if CE handed their list over?

Ask Ron or Jason. I am still under a confidentiality order.

NLB · 10-25-2005, 01:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AlienQ

And look at Far L going into Slander again.

Pathetic.

Far L is involved with the group to fight Acacia and he should no better than to post this bullshit. Didn't Matrix fund that? Thanks for your bold statement it will be passes on to our attorneys and since we never were protected like promised and they cashed our $25,000 check. Anyone can believe what they want I really don't care anymore. Matrix has been responsible for making millions of dollars for it's webmasters and will continue to do so. Have a nice day!

NLB · 10-25-2005, 01:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Far-L

Ask Ron or Jason. I am still under a confidentiality order.

Don't get pissy because you lost your bullshit case. Loser!

FreeHugeMovies · 10-25-2005, 02:00 PM

All I know is, is that my webmaster friends who purchased content from Matrix received letters. Those who did not receive any.

NickPapageorgio · 10-25-2005, 02:07 PM

I know this is off topic...but I haven't misspelled my last name since kintergarden...no matter how drunk I was...but that's just me.

brand0n · 10-25-2005, 02:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FreeHugeMovies

All I know is, is that my webmaster friends who purchased content from Matrix received letters. Those who did not receive any.

amazing coincidence eh?

same goes with the misspelling of my last name.

so NLB you are saying that it didnt happen, we are all fools, and due to the fact youve made millions of dollars that we are all sheep, blind and stupid?

just trying to keep everything clear here.

and old man once told me, if you see smoke, smell smoke, and feel a large amount of heat, odds are something is on fire.

NLB · 10-25-2005, 02:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FreeHugeMovies

All I know is, is that my webmaster friends who purchased content from Matrix received letters. Those who did not receive any.

As I said before. If our list got out it was done by a former hating employee. Of all people that came to me with the info, they signed up before the departure of this person. I'm quite sure that a couple of people on this board know the facts. What I'm arguing here is that we gave it over. DID NOT HAPPEN! Matrix is now run by family and we protect our information. If you can't trust family, who can you trust. This whole thing is boring and old.

Thank you and come again.

NickPapageorgio · 10-25-2005, 02:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by brand0n

amazing coincidence eh?

same goes with the misspelling of my last name.

so NLB you are saying that it didnt happen, we are all fools, and due to the fact youve made millions of dollars that we are all sheep, blind and stupid?

just trying to keep everything clear here.

and old man once told me, if you see smoke, smell smoke, and feel a large amount of heat, odds are something is on fire.

I am not going to get involved as it's not really my arguement here, but if the misspelling of your last name is so common...couldn't whoever did send you the letter have misspelled it? Just saying...

beemk · 10-25-2005, 02:12 PM

for those of you living under a rock:

http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showth...=matrix+acacia

NickPapageorgio · 10-25-2005, 02:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by beemk

for those of you living under a rock:

http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showth...=matrix+acacia

Thanks for that thread.

And just because some joined this board late or were too young in the business to really understand what was going on...it doesn't mean we're under a rock lmao

Interesting reading though. I had no idea all that went down...

WWC-Jon · 10-25-2005, 02:15 PM

Quote:

As I said before. If our list got out it was done by a former hating employee. Of all people that came to me with the info, they signed up before the departure of this person. I'm quite sure that a couple of people on this board know the facts. What I'm arguing here is that we gave it over. DID NOT HAPPEN! Matrix is now run by family and we protect our information. If you can't trust family, who can you trust.

So what are you trying to say?

NLB · 10-25-2005, 02:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jon Azure

So what are you trying to say?

LOL. Before you left my friend. You know the guy that tried to steal all our model's contact information too!

Holly · 10-25-2005, 02:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NLB

Far L is involved with the group to fight Acacia and he should no better than to post this bullshit.

And if you're going to post on an industry message board and represent that pathetic company of yours, you should at least know how to spell 'know'.

Idiot.

jayeff · 10-25-2005, 02:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by brand0n

...yet no one mentions a word to him about the fact that him and his company, to save there own ass sold ALOT of us out.

I never heard a peep from Acacia, despite being a long-term customer of Matrix, so I am not convinced they did what they are accused of.
A bunch of other companies made similar deals with Acacia (which even if it did not involve handing over webmaster info was still a self-interested sellout) so why do Matrix so often get singled out and rarely a word is spoken against the others?
It would be wonderful if we started to treat good business ethics seriously. But the first step would be consistency and it seems some in our industry are teflon coated while others are never allowed to live anything down.

NLB · 10-25-2005, 02:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jayeff

I never heard a peep from Acacia, despite being a long-term customer of Matrix, so I am not convinced they did what they are accused of.
A bunch of other companies made similar deals with Acacia (which even if it did not involve handing over webmaster info was still a self-interested sellout) so why do Matrix so often get singled out and rarely a word is spoken against the others?
It would be wonderful if we started to treat good business ethics seriously. But the first step would be consistency and it seems some in our industry are teflon coated while others are never allowed to live anything down.

Thank you!

NLB · 10-25-2005, 02:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Holly

And if you're going to post on an industry message board and represent that pathetic company of yours, you should at least know how to spell 'know'.

Idiot.

ouch! I'm so hurt! Sorry I work for a living! You can spend all day on your post and reread them over and over. FU!

tapatio · 10-25-2005, 02:26 PM

MattO · 10-25-2005, 02:30 PM

When I got a letter from Acacia, there was a typo in my address.

I didn't realize the connection till threads sprang up, so I logged into Matrix, which I hadn't done in a while, and saw the same typo.

I haven't seen a duplicate typo in any other accounts I'm signed up for, and haven't recieved anything from Acacia without it.

Interpret that as you will.

baddog · 10-25-2005, 02:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by brand0n

slander is spoken, libel is the word you are looking for

and you want proof.

well as for me its this simple. i misspelled my last name with matrix when i signed up for them. a very very uncommon misspell, done in a drunken state.

low and behold, right on my paper work, same misspelling.

and im not the only one by far. why not do some research seeing you got all this info. see that search tab up there? works like a fucking charm (currently)

type in "acacia", "acacia matrix", "matrix acacia" or any combo you can come up with and watch the responses roll in

but ofcourse like every thread YOU know more then anyone else. YOU have the inside track and are clued in with play by plays by all the major players in this game. You know more then me on this.

question "pal" did you even get a letter?

Sorry, but you spell everything wrong . . . that hardly proves anything except that you are a sloppy speller/typist.

WiredGuy · 10-25-2005, 02:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NLB

As I said before. If our list got out it was done by a former hating employee. Of all people that came to me with the info, they signed up before the departure of this person. I'm quite sure that a couple of people on this board know the facts. What I'm arguing here is that we gave it over. DID NOT HAPPEN! Matrix is now run by family and we protect our information. If you can't trust family, who can you trust. This whole thing is boring and old.

Thank you and come again.

I seriously hope you did something against this former employee of yours as it certainly has tainted your company image and aggrevated many webmasters who needed legal counsel because of information that was either leaked or volunteered from your company, myself included.

WG

Holly · 10-25-2005, 02:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NLB

ouch! I'm so hurt! Sorry I work for a living! You can spend all day on your post and reread them over and over. FU!

You're probably right. I'm sure it's hard work to sit around all day and copy your customer data base and hand it over. That totally explains why you can't spell on a second grade level. My apologies.

Far-L · 10-25-2005, 03:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NLB

Don't get pissy because you lost your bullshit case. Loser!

Case is not over numbnut. Who told you CE won... your Daddy-O ron?

Let's talk after the audit. By the way... we didn't ask for a confidentiality order and would be happy if it were lifted... can ron say the same? If he is so honest then he should have nothing to hide....

Until then... Keep your nose in the pile of cocaine and out of my business. Aren't there some trannies around to keep you occupied?

Far-L · 10-25-2005, 03:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WiredGuy

I seriously hope you did something against this former employee of yours as it certainly has tainted your company image and aggrevated many webmasters who needed legal counsel because of information that was either leaked or volunteered from your company, myself included.

WG

The whole disgruntled former employee thing is a pile of sheep turd. He knows good and well how it really got out.

BigasMoe · 10-25-2005, 03:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NLB

ouch! I'm so hurt! Sorry I work for a living! You can spend all day on your post and reread them over and over. FU!

Hey Norm if I were you I wouldn't even waste my time addressing the BullShit in this thread. There's always someone in a thread or people on the board that like to care around their own spoons. That way they can Stir the Shit everywhere they go. Funny how you never see the spoon carriers never seem tomake it to the shows.

WiredGuy · 10-25-2005, 03:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Far-L

The whole disgruntled former employee thing is a pile of sheep turd. He knows good and well how it really got out.

I don't really buy it either, but I'm just saying I hope they got something worth it in the end, as the frustration caused to webmasters cannot possibly have helped business.

WG

Far-L · 10-25-2005, 04:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BigasMoe

Hey Norm if I were you I wouldn't even waste my time addressing the BullShit in this thread. There's always someone in a thread or people on the board that like to care around their own spoons. That way they can Stir the Shit everywhere they go. Funny how you never see the spoon carriers never seem tomake it to the shows.

I go to shows. Here is my real name, Farrell Timlake.

I am not stirring anything... If anything I was doing Matrix a favor by pointing out they were not the only ones to settle with Acacia and turn over their customer lists per the Acacia license requirements.

Norman came in to attack me personally. No reason I should not be able to defend myself accordingly.

10-25-2005, 12:37 PM	#1
brand0n been very busy Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: the queen city Posts: 26,983	need i remind you that matrix content gave its webamster list to Acacia? you people are so fuckin funny. you bump heads with this guy over his fuckin camera.. his fucking camera? and yet no one mentions a word to him about the fact that him and his company, to save there own ass sold ALOT of us out. get your fucking prioritys straight. fuck that camera, he can stick that up his fucking ass and take pov tonsil pics as far as im conserned. why not back him into a corner and have him address a reall issue. the fact that his company handed alot of us over on a silver platter to save there own fucking skin. anyways, get back to the would you hit it threads..... __________________ want to buy this spot for cheap? it is of course for sale. long term deals are always the best bet. brand0n/ at/ a o l dot commies.

10-25-2005, 12:42 PM	#3
brand0n been very busy Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: the queen city Posts: 26,983	they handed over there buyers list in some sort of deal to save there selfs. in other words 100s of webmasters got letters from acacia directly due to them. __________________ want to buy this spot for cheap? it is of course for sale. long term deals are always the best bet. brand0n/ at/ a o l dot commies.

10-25-2005, 12:49 PM	#7
Far-L Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Seattle Posts: 6,065	Matrix wasn't the only ones to hand over lists... Cybererotica, Porndollar, and quite a few others did too... Hope they are all enjoying the audits and the license fees... the benefits of their "business decisions". __________________ HomegrownCash.com, the affiliate program of Homegrown Video - The Largest Collection of Amateur XXX - Est. 1982. Contact - Email: farrell AT homegrownvideo D com Skype: hgfarl Newsweek Magazine - "Homegrown Video, the longest running series in the history of porn."

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AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE best designer on GFY Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: IALIEN.COM - High Definition Video and Photographic Productions -ICQ 78943384 Posts: 30,307	And look at Far L going into Slander again. Pathetic. __________________ NAKED HOSTING FTW!11 I'm On The INSANE PLAN $9.95/mo! \| The Alien Blog Adult News Worth Reading Updated Daily \| Content For Sale! 641 PICS 216 MINUTES OF VIDEO $350.00 \|ICQ: 78943384 \|

10-25-2005, 01:27 PM	#21
AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE best designer on GFY Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: IALIEN.COM - High Definition Video and Photographic Productions -ICQ 78943384 Posts: 30,307	But where is the proof Brand0n? Alot of you folks just assumed when that went down and in the hysteria it as driven that Matrix did it, and even more chose to hate on Matrix for thier success. You're call here is unsubstantiated without proof. You know something I do not or other do not? Cuz I got alot of info pal. __________________ NAKED HOSTING FTW!11 I'm On The INSANE PLAN $9.95/mo! \| The Alien Blog Adult News Worth Reading Updated Daily \| Content For Sale! 641 PICS 216 MINUTES OF VIDEO $350.00 \|ICQ: 78943384 \| Last edited by AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE; 10-25-2005 at 01:28 PM..

10-25-2005, 12:38 PM	#2
TheMob Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: 2006 Posts: 8,584	what did they do?

10-25-2005, 12:42 PM	#4
SilentKnight Megan Fox's fluffer Industry Role: Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: shooting pool in Elysium Posts: 24,818	I was never aware of his past history. I don't tune in for all the episodes of the soap opera. SilentKnight www.kastlearchives.com www.fetishopolis.com www.chamberofchains.com

10-25-2005, 12:45 PM	#5
Monique Niccole Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: San Francisco Posts: 5,653	I think it was mentioned a couple of times in that thread. People remember. That's why they got beat up so badly in that thread. Otherwise everyone would have brused it off as just another shitty photographer.

10-25-2005, 01:22 PM	#18
Double L Confirmed User Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: US Posts: 349	Yeah, they weren't the only sellouts, but never again will I buy Matrix content.

10-25-2005, 01:41 PM	#24
brand0n been very busy Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: the queen city Posts: 26,983	slander is spoken, libel is the word you are looking for and you want proof. well as for me its this simple. i misspelled my last name with matrix when i signed up for them. a very very uncommon misspell, done in a drunken state. low and behold, right on my paper work, same misspelling. and im not the only one by far. why not do some research seeing you got all this info. see that search tab up there? works like a fucking charm (currently) type in "acacia", "acacia matrix", "matrix acacia" or any combo you can come up with and watch the responses roll in but ofcourse like every thread YOU know more then anyone else. YOU have the inside track and are clued in with play by plays by all the major players in this game. You know more then me on this. question "pal" did you even get a letter? __________________ want to buy this spot for cheap? it is of course for sale. long term deals are always the best bet. brand0n/ at/ a o l dot commies.

10-25-2005, 02:00 PM	#28
FreeHugeMovies Too lazy to set a custom title Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Charlotte, NC Posts: 14,137	All I know is, is that my webmaster friends who purchased content from Matrix received letters. Those who did not receive any.

10-25-2005, 02:07 PM	#29
NickPapageorgio Confirmed User Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: NC Posts: 8,323	I know this is off topic...but I haven't misspelled my last name since kintergarden...no matter how drunk I was...but that's just me. __________________

10-25-2005, 02:12 PM	#33
beemk CLICK HERE Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2002 Posts: 20,829	for those of you living under a rock: http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showth...=matrix+acacia __________________ I host with Vacares

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10-25-2005, 02:30 PM	#42
MattO The O is for Oohhh Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: AUSTIN TEJAS Posts: 10,861	When I got a letter from Acacia, there was a typo in my address. I didn't realize the connection till threads sprang up, so I logged into Matrix, which I hadn't done in a while, and saw the same typo. I haven't seen a duplicate typo in any other accounts I'm signed up for, and haven't recieved anything from Acacia without it. Interpret that as you will. Last edited by MattO; 10-25-2005 at 02:32 PM..