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Old 10-28-2005, 12:15 PM   #1
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Paysite 100 Sales A Day... Is it Poss ?

OK weird question... I am about to start a project for a company... it will include launchign them a new cash programme and two new sites...

One I believe has huge potential... and the other not far off ! But I am looking at getting them 100 sales a day for their flag ship site... is that realistic/possible ???

What things do we need to look at doing to achieve this ??? I think this site is going to be huge...
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Old 10-28-2005, 12:16 PM   #2
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Old 10-28-2005, 12:17 PM   #3
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depends on the content and your affiliates. But of course it is possible
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Old 10-28-2005, 12:37 PM   #8
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Old 10-28-2005, 12:38 PM   #9
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I wonder if ANY of those posting that it's possible actually have experience? You know that old saying, "With God, all things are possible" ? Well, God ain't gonna help your brand new porn site, bro.

Is it possible? Sure. I've been in the business for 8 years, have over 1,300 affiliates for my pay sites, and don't do a 100 sales per day average by ANY means.

But I do know people who do MUCH more than 100 sales per day. You know them too. But they're not upstarts with brand new sites. They have numerous sites.

Will YOUR new project get that many? HIGHLY doubtful.
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Old 10-28-2005, 12:44 PM   #10
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of course its possible...why do you think its not?
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Old 10-28-2005, 12:47 PM   #11
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Old 10-28-2005, 12:49 PM   #12
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I wonder if ANY of those posting that it's possible actually have experience? You know that old saying, "With God, all things are possible" ? Well, God ain't gonna help your brand new porn site, bro.

Is it possible? Sure. I've been in the business for 8 years, have over 1,300 affiliates for my pay sites, and don't do a 100 sales per day average by ANY means.

But I do know people who do MUCH more than 100 sales per day. You know them too. But they're not upstarts with brand new sites. They have numerous sites.

Will YOUR new project get that many? HIGHLY doubtful.
Anything is Possible but I agree Highly doubtful.. Its not that easy
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Old 10-28-2005, 12:53 PM   #14
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of course its possible...why do you think its not?
Take a look at review sites. They give great direction in what consumers are looking for... If you get some very good listings in these places you stand to get a lot of very very good traffic.

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Everyone's comments are right on the money.

Yes it is possible, but it will take time.
(and money!)

Most give up or do not market their sites hard enought to make it to 100+ sales a day...

Plus you have to consider the source when people are claiming to do insane sales... don't always believe the hype!

Many programs do more than 100+ sales a day... VERY Few individual paysites do.

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I'm really not trying to be an ass..

But if you have to ask that question then you shouldn't be putting a paysite network/program together for someone.
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Old 10-28-2005, 01:29 PM   #17
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Of course. I think 100 sales to a single paysite would be difficult - but to a affiliate program with 8+ niche sites, extremely do-able and almost expected. Good Luck to you sir!
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Old 10-28-2005, 01:30 PM   #18
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100 sales a day for a new company will be very difficult, it is possible though.

Would be really easy if you allow spam mail.
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Old 10-28-2005, 02:12 PM   #20
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Thanks Guys...

Thanks peeps for the input... Yes we intend to make the money programme as good as we can... we are looking at Nats... I dont think we will offer a PPS, well certainly not till the site is established... I want to get the maths right on the PPS stuff...

The sites are very good... one is called CandyCrib... not hardcore just good tease site, 8 uk glamour girls living in a flat, all web cammed up... 24/7... exclusive content... High Quality video and stills... live webcam all day round... webcam shows, total interaction, reality style site... big brother style...

Anyways any more suggestions on what we need to do... oh and the guy who said I shouldnt be the guy heading it up, I had four years in the industry but still got loads to learn... so aint afraid to ask
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Old 10-28-2005, 03:07 PM   #21
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from this thread it seems affilates don't do much, rely on yourself and not affilates you will get 100% of the sales
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from this thread it seems affilates don't do much, rely on yourself and not affilates you will get 100% of the sales
What took you so long?
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Old 10-29-2005, 12:07 AM   #23
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Do you have a marketing budget?
Its prolly not that hard if you have cash to buy PPC and Gallery spots.

I would book your hun gallery spots now
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Old 10-29-2005, 12:35 AM   #25
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i guess we know who the next person to really lose thier ass in adult will be. keep us posted.
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100 sales from one paysite is not that hard depending on the paysite, with some paysites you should easily be able to to get 30-50 joins daily just from doing galleries without no affilites
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100 sales a day for a single site....Dreaming!! I own www.cheatingxxxwife.com it's been going for over 4 years. It's only one site, has good traffic via 100 or so affiliates and we average 30 to 40 per day.

Sure if you have a suite of 10 sites in your program but a single site would have to be very very special.
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it is quite possible but would take time to generate the traffic to get to that level - and that means shit loads of work!
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It is with the right budget and the right aff base yes. But its all bout planning.

Promissing 100+ sales a day to anyone and no backup plan is hell and back if they find out.
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Thanks...

Thanks guys, most people seem to think its doable... I love the guys who think just cause I am askign advice means it will fail... I think anyone in any kind of business who is afraid to ask question are the ones who fail...

Yes the company is giving me an advertising budget... month 1 will be $10,000.

Resources wise, they have 6 programmers in the office I will be based, and they also have their own design office (not outsourced) in the philippennes... so I think we can make a lot happen in house...

Anyways thanks to those willing to share their ideas/knowledge, and sorry to those that obviously know everythign there is to know, and would never ask a question
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Thanks guys, most people seem to think its doable... I love the guys who think just cause I am askign advice means it will fail... I think anyone in any kind of business who is afraid to ask question are the ones who fail...

Yes the company is giving me an advertising budget... month 1 will be $10,000.

Resources wise, they have 6 programmers in the office I will be based, and they also have their own design office (not outsourced) in the philippennes... so I think we can make a lot happen in house...

Anyways thanks to those willing to share their ideas/knowledge, and sorry to those that obviously know everythign there is to know, and would never ask a question
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10k a month is not gonna bring you 100 signups a day, certainly not with voyeur these days and certainly not without a really really good plan. Like said get a guy who knows the works give him 10k a month and adjust that signup rate.
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OK weird question... I am about to start a project for a company... it will include launchign them a new cash programme and two new sites...

One I believe has huge potential... and the other not far off ! But I am looking at getting them 100 sales a day for their flag ship site... is that realistic/possible ???

What things do we need to look at doing to achieve this ??? I think this site is going to be huge...
Good luck with it mate
Could be doable depending on the site and resources
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are we still talking about porn? someone will say you'd better swap 5 of your coders for one person with solid marketing skills that knows the ropes.

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10k a month is not gonna bring you 100 signups a day, certainly not with voyeur these days and certainly not without a really really good plan. Like said get a guy who knows the works give him 10k a month and adjust that signup rate.
Bob how much would you chuck at it then to get 100 sales... 100 sales is only $90k a month... so to chuck more at it is a gamble... Surely with a solid affilaite base, and $10k worth of well positioned marketing the 100 sign ups is achievable ???

The programmers work for the company on a multitude of projects, so alas they are non transferable As for another person who is a guy with knowledge, well I am sure if such a person is out there he will be busy making the millions himself... So thats why I am heading things up, with my humble knowledge

And no its not porn... but it is good tease reality... a flat with 8 hot girls living in 24/7 with webcams in every room... loads of interaction from the girls, and thats for me what sells... fingers crossed...
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Bob how much would you chuck at it then to get 100 sales... 100 sales is only $90k a month... so to chuck more at it is a gamble... Surely with a solid affilaite base, and $10k worth of well positioned marketing the 100 sign ups is achievable ???
you are soooooo far in over your head that you have no idea how you are embarrassing yourself. 10K is nothing. its not even enough to spend on traffic to learn anything from. you are talking to mostly nobodies who don't run sites or affiliate programs. voyeur sites suck. they dont convert. they dont retain and no one is going to send you traffic. the content sucks. its been done to death and all the sites except Claudias in amsterdam and the ones from Candid and geishahouse.com are gone. well over 100 sites just as the one you are describing have came and went from all over the world since 98. all with hot chicks, great content and "great ideas" .... in the end, no one cares.

people start programs with 100's of thousands of dollars and are gone in 6 months all the time. its not that easy. it has nothing to do with money and how much you have to spend. it has to do with a keen understanding of the biz, a good understanding of traffic and how to convert it and the connections to be able to get that traffic. you continue to show that you have none of those vital elements in place. getting traffic is simple. getting good traffic is extremely difficult.

you want to rely on affiliates? how are you going to get affiliates? 10K... a banner ad on this board will cost a couple k and no one will click on it. 10% of affiliates control 90% of the traffic and that 10% is never going to talk to you. its not me being an asshole... its me talking from experience. do you have any idea how many people come and go with "great ideas" everyday in this biz? how long they last because they dont understand the business. Do you think you have something unique? naked girls and cams? its never been done before?

the best advice that can be given to you is to simply slow down, try to learn about the biz first... and save your money. you are going to lose it all. dont spend anything more than you are ready to lose.

all the people here saying "yeah, its doable" are not running affiliate programs or managing similar sites. i have done both.


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can I see the 8 "hot" girls?

then I'll tell you if 100 signups a day is possible
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I sure don't see why not. At one time, I was making on average 23.5 signups per day with AVS on just one site with no paid advertising. (Of course, that was "in the day", and I don't do anywhere near that now). It only takes 4 affiliates pulling that same number to get close, and I highly doubt I was the top affiliate. Sure AVS and paysites are very different animals, but to me it shows the potential...
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you are soooooo far in over your head that you have no idea how you are embarrassing yourself. 10K is nothing. its not even enough to spend on traffic to learn anything from. you are talking to mostly nobodies who don't run sites or affiliate programs. voyeur sites suck. they dont convert. they dont retain and no one is going to send you traffic. the content sucks. its been done to death and all the sites except Claudias in amsterdam and the ones from Candid and geishahouse.com are gone. well over 100 sites just as the one you are describing have came and went from all over the world since 98. all with hot chicks, great content and "great ideas" .... in the end, no one cares.

people start programs with 100's of thousands of dollars and are gone in 6 months all the time. its not that easy. it has nothing to do with money and how much you have to spend. it has to do with a keen understanding of the biz, a good understanding of traffic and how to convert it and the connections to be able to get that traffic. you continue to show that you have none of those vital elements in place. getting traffic is simple. getting good traffic is extremely difficult.

you want to rely on affiliates? how are you going to get affiliates? 10K... a banner ad on this board will cost a couple k and no one will click on it. 10% of affiliates control 90% of the traffic and that 10% is never going to talk to you. its not me being an asshole... its me talking from experience. do you have any idea how many people come and go with "great ideas" everyday in this biz? how long they last because they dont understand the business. Do you think you have something unique? naked girls and cams? its never been done before?

the best advice that can be given to you is to simply slow down, try to learn about the biz first... and save your money. you are going to lose it all. dont spend anything more than you are ready to lose.

all the people here saying "yeah, its doable" are not running affiliate programs or managing similar sites. i have done both.

Dude what the fuck was that all about, what do you run ??? So no one who as posted in this thread knows what they are talking about, but you do ??? Interesting idea... good to see your full of confidence...

I dont make out to be the be all and end all in this industry... but I am keen to learn... I guess I will have to try and prove you wrong... and hopefully produce a product that will be beneficial to a lot of people...

Thanks for your input...
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Old 10-29-2005, 04:30 AM   #45
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I sure don't see why not. At one time, I was making on average 23.5 signups per day with AVS on just one site with no paid advertising. (Of course, that was "in the day", and I don't do anywhere near that now). It only takes 4 affiliates pulling that same number to get close, and I highly doubt I was the top affiliate. Sure AVS and paysites are very different animals, but to me it shows the potential...
Jimbo I start in the office on Monday... I will be putting some promo images together... so will be sure to post here I eagily await your opinion of the girls...
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no, it's not possible, move on
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LOL Well in my first post I did point out it was a weird question

But I did also ask what I need to do to make it happen... I guess asking people to share their juice is a big ask...
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Old 10-29-2005, 04:55 AM   #48
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Is it possible? Sure. I've been in the business for 8 years, have over 1,300 affiliates for my pay sites, and don't do a 100 sales per day average by ANY means.
than you must be running some pretty shitty pay sites or have some pretty shitty webmasters. :P

I would be a millionare if I was in this industry for 8 years already.

I'll gurantee you our new reality site will be making 100 sales a day within 3 months of launch..

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if you have $ anything is posssssible
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if you have $ anything is posssssible
True but even with paid spots, certain type of sites do well on certain tgps. and looking at his sites i don't think they would do well on a majorty of the large tgps where you can buy spots at
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