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Old 12-26-2005, 05:20 AM   #201
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Cease and Desists are nothing, until they sue you over them... they do that, you know... SG folks are trigger-happy. I was giving a Caveat Emptor myself because I felt bad for the OG poster of this thread, having seen a lot of crap firsthand.

I agree that no one should pose for SG, but they are pretty good at snockering in young girls who think it's not porn. You ever see them argue about if they are even shooting for a porn site or not? I have. It's weird. They used to advertise in Portland newspapers as an "Artistic Modelling Site," back in 2001... it's creepy. So many of their wannabe models are like 15, 16, and don't get it because it's presented so differently. Yeah, it sucks! I agree completely.

Did the two people in this thread who fell for SG's affiliates shit feel a little duped? That's probably a better word to have used than exploited... I'm curious... if they knew what they were getting into, they would not have put up with SG's song and dance, right?
Noone would do business w/ people who work that way if they knew.
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Old 12-26-2005, 11:16 AM   #202
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i will hate SG for life

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Old 12-26-2005, 12:40 PM   #203
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Lol I have been to their site a few times and was not all that impressed (being nice here, I was not impressed at all). I was going to ask if most sites were as demanding as this but then my common sense kicked in and decided that these people just want to hold their site to such a high level that it has gone into the realm of reficulous (just my opinion that seems to be shared with most people here)

I wonder how much sucess they are having with such elitist rules, anyone have anything verified?
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Old 07-12-2006, 09:37 AM   #204
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question for quantum-x

I'm working on a piece for a magazine about S G. I'm just wondering how much money they froze in the account they closed and any other details you think might be valuable. I read the correspondence between you and S G about your site and their behavior was pretty ridiculous...
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As I said - I've not posted before, as until now they have been 'high maintenance' - The instant they closed my account for the second time, WITH FUNDS IN IT - with no mention of being able to do so (terms and conditions are NOT listed on their affiliate page) - that was fraud.
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Old 07-12-2006, 09:55 AM   #205
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can you put me in your magazine please? im scottybuzz!
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Old 07-12-2006, 10:06 AM   #206
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Thanks for the tip... and damn you're one patient fellow!
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Old 07-12-2006, 10:32 AM   #207
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as far as I have read: he had made 1 sale!
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Old 07-12-2006, 10:44 AM   #208
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Old 07-12-2006, 10:47 AM   #209
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Old 07-12-2006, 10:51 AM   #210
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wonkaj, did you read the date of the thread you just bumped?
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Old 07-12-2006, 05:50 PM   #211
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I'm working on a piece for a magazine about S G. I'm just wondering how much money they froze in the account they closed and any other details you think might be valuable. I read the correspondence between you and S G about your site and their behavior was pretty ridiculous...
Email me if you can- [email protected]
You should probably mention what magazine you are with, and possibly how to verify with you editor, because otherwise GFYers will assume a postcount of 1 with a gmail account is not particularly real.
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Old 07-12-2006, 06:56 PM   #212
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Old 07-12-2006, 07:34 PM   #213
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i would like to take a cricket bat to each and everyones head who is involved in the SG website
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Old 05-12-2007, 02:08 AM   #214
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godsgirls loves affiliates and will be very nice to them and keep the schizophrenia at bay as much as possible. swear!
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Old 05-12-2007, 02:15 AM   #215
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Nerves of steel you showed there, bud.
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Old 05-12-2007, 03:10 AM   #217
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i want to meet a kangaroo.

much better than meeting litigious dwarves.
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Old 05-12-2007, 03:23 AM   #218
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Old 05-12-2007, 04:00 AM   #219
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gods girls has an affiliate section now? where?
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Old 05-12-2007, 05:45 AM   #220
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Old 05-12-2007, 05:49 AM   #221
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gods girls has an affiliate section now? where?
it's brand brand brand new and it is mostly intended for our models to use to make extra money but if you like it then you can use it too. www.godsgirls.com/affiliates


it's a nice system i think.

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give me a pass to godsgirls pplease want to jack off im lonely

you've got teens, babes, webcams AND she-males. how lonely could you be?


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Old 05-12-2007, 06:09 AM   #223
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Old 05-12-2007, 06:15 AM   #224
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Is it too late for a sig spot?

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i'm a noob. speak noob. i have no idea what you mean.
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Hi everyone! What's the best thing to do to increase my traffics?
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Hi everyone! What's the best thing to do to increase my traffics?
Are you nuts? Just a new SG affiliate i guess. ah ah

What a stupid thread.
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Missed this thread the first time around.... a pure classic


Did you get an Ipod or anything from GFY for it Quantum-X?
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dude, that surely suxs. thanks for sharing !
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godsgirls loves affiliates and will be very nice to them and keep the schizophrenia at bay as much as possible. swear!
You bump a year old thread just to spam? Pretty desperate.
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You bump a year old thread just to spam? Pretty desperate.

not desperate. curious about the thread since i had never seen it before. got involved with reading. commented. eat me. <3
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You bump a year old thread just to spam? Pretty desperate.
Looks like good marketing to me....
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this thread was particularly interesting to me because i remember hearing about the cute goths site and the trouble with sg. i have more than my fair share of trouble with sg myself.
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I read Antidia's horror stories of SG before...
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this thread was particularly interesting to me because i remember hearing about the cute goths site and the trouble with sg. i have more than my fair share of trouble with sg myself.
Isn't your Sig way to big for a Noob ... Go read the rules and come back .. and jack those Revshare %'s up from 35% to 50% so i can give you a try ..
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i go from time to time in gothic party, but when i think about goth party i think about this:
http://www.sm-club-kult.de/main.html
or this:
http://www.kulturruine.de/frameset.htm

If i understand the difference between bdsm and goth, it is hard to show picture of naked girl without thinking it is porn, or perhap's it is a marketing trick to make think that a girl that shows her ass is more pure "because it is not porn".
how many hits to get this sale ?
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fine fine fine i will change it. =)

the sig i mean.

revshare change later maaaaybe. ;)
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Just make a myspace page like SG did and spam the hell out of your friends list tada sales!
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Simon,

I'm sure Suicide Girls appreciates your notice, however they prefer Affiliate Program to the term Sponsor. Please create a new thread with the title "WARNING - SCAMMING AFFILIATE PROGRAM: Suicide Girls.com" and close this one.

Afterwards, please be aware that they do not like words in all-capital letters, so close the replacement thread and crate a new one entitled "Warning - Scamming affiliate program: Suicide Girls.com."

Once you've done that, note that they are SuicideGirls.com, not Suicide Girls.com. They appreciate your patience but must once again request that you replace the 2nd replacement thread with one which omits the space in the domain name in the thread title.

They'll look forward to giving you further instructions when the above steps are completed.
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btw have you promoted website using myspace pages before ?
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Just make a myspace page like SG did and spam the hell out of your friends list tada sales!
we were using myspace to market before sg was. prior to our popularity on myspace sg's myspace belonged to an affiliate/shooter. i am pretty sure that lots of adult sites of this nature were using myspace on their own before sg was.
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well one i received some advertisments for concerts, but directly from a band, never for porn.
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banners posted on myspace profiles/blogs/comments with affiliate links are generally stripped pretty quickly. repeat "abusers" find their profiles deleted.
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and no problem with SG ???
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fine fine fine i will change it. =)

the sig i mean.

revshare change later maaaaybe. ;)
DO IT ;) You'll thank everyone for saying it later.
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Oh hello, look what got bumped.

You may or may not be interested to know that a few weeks ago I changed some stuff on one of my hosts, and the redirect I had up on cutegoths.com turned off, so the 'site' went back up.

It consisted of about 20 hotlinked images directly to SG, and only linked to SG. Anyhow, low and behold, I got a fake takedown notice from SG.

Here's how the transaction went:
BTW. This is somewhat lengthy. Skip it if you like, but I have tried to keep it entertaining.
Yes, I was being cocky. I'm more than happy to comply w/ legitimate requests, but I'm tired of lawyers sending out crap that isn't even legal.

BTW, you can still own cutegoths.com, drama included. email me / icq me with an offer.

No, No ipod etc btw ;)

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I am an attorney for SG Services, Inc. (?SuicideGirls?). As you know, your affiliate account with SuicideGirls was terminated over a year ago and you were asked to remove all SuicideGirls images and content from your site, http://www.cutegoths.com.

I see that you have yet to remove this content and request that you do so and confirm its removal to me to prevent legal action being taken against you.

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Dear Leslie

Four points, if I may.
#1 - I am not hosting any of the content. Your client is making it freely available to be linked to. Preventing this is facile, and is an action they can take at any time. In fact, I'm willing to provide your clients, directly, or via you, the code to do so. Not only that, as your client has probably failed to mention, they receive all credit and traffic that is sent via that page [minimal as it may be], as a gratuity.
#2 - You have not made it clear to me what, if anything is infringing..
#3 - I only respond to legal inquiries that are sent via registered post. As you are no doubt aware, there are many public cases where the DCMA has been cited inconsistently, much to the embarrassment of the issuing parties.
#4 - Following on from that, I am having troubles finding your name registered with any legal firms. If you could please update me on your credentials, for reasons highlighted above, I would be most appreciative.

I am not raising any of these points to be inflammatory, but merely as a standard response to help me understand the situation at hand, which I am sure you respect.
I am more than happy to further this discussion to the points above.

Yours faithfully,
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Dear Mr. X:

The infringing content on your site consists of SuicideGirls images, of which SuicideGirls is the copyright owner. The following images are posted without our authorization on your site:

http://www.suicidegirls.com/media/gi...viewmedium.jpg

http://www.suicidegirls.com/media/gi...viewmedium.jpg

stack more images hosted on their site listed

Please promptly remove these images.
Sincerely,
Leslie A. Cowan

Attorney for SG Services, Inc.
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Originally Posted by qx
Dear Leslie.
You have not addressed any of the points I have mentioned in my previous email.

Again, I am more than happy to comply, but until you address the points in my email, I cannot take such actions:
Namely, my attorney advises that:
1) You provide details of which state you are licensed in, and
2) A proper DCMA complaint [if that is indeed what you are wishing to lodge]

I am advised that I am able to proceed quite rapidly in compliance with you, but again I must draw attention to point number 1 in my previous email.
I will repeat what I said: I AM NOT HOSTING THIS CONTENT. THIS CONTENT IS ON YOUR SERVERS, FREELY AVAILABLE FOR ALL TO LINK TO.

This practice is called hotlinking, and is ENTIRELY preventable by your 'client', and is also entirely your 'client's' responsibility.
There are established precedents dismissing previous legal cases of 'hotlinking'.

If you are concerned about protecting your IP, please refer to:
http://images.google.com/images?q=su...=1&sa=N&tab=wi [set safe search preferences to off]
Which details just over 669,000 sites that are actively stealing your 'client's' content.

In the meantime, perhaps you can point your 'client's' technical team to the following link:
http://www.besthostratings.com/artic...t-linking.html

Once this is implemented, you will find that the 'infringing content' is no longer on my site.

I would encourage you to read the above points, and the points raised in my previous email.
The power to 'fix' this problem is entirely in your 'client's' hands.

Yours faithfully
And finally:
SG
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Originally Posted by SG
Dear Mr. X:

I am licensed to practice law in the state of California. You are not
authorized to post these images since your affiliate account has been
terminated and you have been repeatedly asked to remove them. If you want a
DMCA format notice, here it is:


I am an attorney for SG Services, Inc. ("SuicideGirls").
I am writing to report copyright infringement on your site.

Copyrighted images owned by SuicideGirls appear on your site
http://www.cutegoths.com at the following links:
http://www.suicidegirls.com/media/gi...ox/previewmedi
um.jpg

more links that.. are on their site [?!]


Acting as an agent on behalf of SuicideGirls, I have a good faith belief
that the use of the photos identified above is not authorized by
SuicideGirls, any agent, or the law. I further declare, under penalty of
perjury, that the above is accurate, that SuicideGirls is the copyright
owner of all of the photos identified above and that I am authorized to act
on behalf of SuicideGirls.

SuicideGirls hereby reserves all rights and remedies it has at law and in
equity and nothing contained herein shall be deemed a waiver of such rights
or an election of remedies. Please let me know if you have any questions
concerning the above.

Sincerely,

Leslie A. Cowan
Attorney for SG Services, Inc.
6121 Santa Monica Blvd. #102
Los Angeles, CA 90038
(323) 667-9000
[email protected]
My Final Reply
Quote:
Originally Posted by qx
Ms Cowan:
As you're well aware:
#1 - I'm Australian. The DMCA doesn't actually exist outside of America. You know this.
#2 - "Repeatedly asked to remove" - the last conversation I had with your offices was the 30/11/2005. There was no takedown demand.
#3 - If I had the time or patience, I'd be filing a counter request. You know exactly how this would end up. But then again, I'm not American, so it wouldn't actually be legal.
#4 - Hotlinking is not copyright infringement. There is no case law. You know this.

For your reference, I've included a picture that might help you.
You can print it out and colour it in, if you like.
Douchebags.
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Old 05-13-2007, 11:31 AM   #246
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hahaha, that's hilarious... i've heard a lot of bad things about suicide girls in the past, but this is just rediculous. They obviously have no idea how to run an affiliate program.
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OMG this is so funny

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Funny! I'd like to shoot for you guys.
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Oh hello, look what got bumped.
Though it be a lovely post of retort & counter-retort, I was sad of the image you posted ( it was funny though ). -- Can we, at least, have a savage "quantum-x" pic for this thread?

Please ?

-- edit: yea, old thread and blah blah blah... Just wanted a cool pic from someone who takes wicked-cool pics. *shrug*
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