Do black people sing better than others?

[HarrytheNazi]

as I look through my music collection, I wonder....

[HarrytheNazi]

..hmmmmm

[HarrytheNazi]

...hmmmm

[Jennyfer]

There are more black people that sings well than white ones.

[sickkittens]

Originally Posted by IwantU_Jennyfer

There are more black people that sings well than white ones.

Is that scientific?

[Maxy]

No I don't think that's really true.

[nofx]

yes

[Young]

yes...it mind as well be a scientific fact.

bigger penis'....sing better....run faster.....jump higher.

[smack]

biz markie gives them enough negative points to make them about even with white folk in the singing department.

[Pornwolf]

Black people get more encouragement to make song & music part of growing up so there's a predisposition to being able to do it better than other races.

But people like Christina Aguilara shows what can happen when a non black person gets that same encouragement.

[Young]

Originally Posted by Pornwolf

Black people get more encouragement to make song & music part of growing up so there's a predisposition to being able to do it better than other races.
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You also just explained the higher crime rates for blacks.

[SilkySnatch]

I think it just seems that way because in the past one of the only fields that blacks were accepted was the entertainment industry. the singing and dancing now its sports... all for the entertainment of white people...lol go figure.. plus it has big bucks
Ally

[Pornwolf]

Originally Posted by Young

You also just explained the higher crime rates for blacks.

Why do you think that?

[Young]

Originally Posted by Pornwolf

Why do you think that?

most black people were displaced to areas stricken with poverty. Did they decide to move there ? No....when seperate but equal was struck down by the Supreme Court they had no choice but to stay there......Since seperate but equal was no longer valid....all the white people took their good books, and good teachers, good business' and moved out of the inner city. leaving all of the black people behind...with poor education and jobs.

what do you do when you have no education....and lack of jobs?

wrote a 50 page paper in college on how Seperate but Equal was actually a good thing. Got an A+ and a request to have it published....fearing the backlash i might recieve from something like this i declined.

[sickkittens]

Originally Posted by Pornwolf

Black people get more encouragement to make song & music part of growing up so there's a predisposition to being able to do it better than other races.

Seriously, where do you come up with this?

[Pornwolf]

Umm, I dunno. Umm... took a wild guess? [/sarcasm]

Do you think I'm wrong? Why?

[Pornwolf]

Originally Posted by Young

most black people were displaced to areas stricken with poverty. Did they decide to move there ? No....when seperate but equal was struck down by the Supreme Court they had no choice but to stay there......Since seperate but equal was no longer valid....all the white people took their good books, and good teachers, good business' and moved out of the inner city. leaving all of the black people behind...with poor education and jobs.

what do you do when you have no education....and lack of jobs?

wrote a 50 page paper in college on how Seperate but Equal was actually a good thing. Got an A+ and a request to have it published....fearing the backlash i might recieve from something like this i declined.

I agree that separate but equal is part of it definitely, but by no means is it the base reason.

Good diagnosis though Young.

[Young]

Originally Posted by Pornwolf

I agree that separate but equal is part of it definitely, but by no means is it the base reason.

Good diagnosis though Young.

Thanks when i told my professor what I was planning on doing his head nearly spinned. But I managed to pull it off. Seperate but Equal pushed all of the money and resources out of the inner city. A compromise halfway would have been better for the Supreme Court to rule...but they didn't. Life goes on.

[SilkySnatch]

Originally Posted by Young

Thanks when i told my professor what I was planning on doing his head nearly spinned. But I managed to pull it off. Seperate but Equal pushed all of the money and resources out of the inner city. A compromise halfway would have been better for the Supreme Court to rule...but they didn't. Life goes on.

I agree with you completely.

Also I think the higher crime rates is not based on race but rather economics.. the poorer you are the more likely you will do what ever it takes to survive..... plus black people do not have a strong sense of community that other races tend to have.. ie . hispanics and latinos....... but I will not get into the reason for that in this thread

[L4 libido]

music knows no color, same with other talents. observing that there are more black singers than white is just coincidence.

[PixeLs]

Two of most favoite music artists.

[escorpio]

Originally Posted by SilkySnatch

Also I think the higher crime rates is not based on race but rather economics.. the poorer you are the more likely you will do what ever it takes to survive...

Are there more blacks living below poverty level in the U.S. than whites?

[Doctor Dre]

It's probably cultural ... they sign everywhere when they grow up.... at church, family etc etc

[Doctor Dre]

Originally Posted by SilkySnatch

I agree with you completely.

Also I think the higher crime rates is not based on race but rather economics.. the poorer you are the more likely you will do what ever it takes to survive..... plus black people do not have a strong sense of community that other races tend to have.. ie . hispanics and latinos....... but I will not get into the reason for that in this thread

Obviously ... that's what happens when you make ghettos...

[Young]

Originally Posted by escorpio

Are there more blacks living below poverty level in the U.S. than whites?

it has to do with available oppurtunties. i see where you are trying to go, but you're way off base. didn't expect anything different though.

[escorpio]

Originally Posted by Young

it has to do with available oppurtunties. i see where you are trying to go, but you're way off base. didn't expect anything different though.

So you admit economics is not a factor in disproportionate crime rates? It's "opportunity", is that correct?

[Young]

Originally Posted by escorpio

So you admit economics is not a factor in disproportionate crime rates? It's "opportunity", is that correct?

economics is only part of the equation. Should I explain to you the need for Affirmative Action?

I really don't feel like getting into it. So lets just end it here.

[Spunky]

All the darkies I've seen sure can dance real good

[escorpio]

Originally Posted by Young

I really don't feel like getting into it. So lets just end it here.

You mean I don't get to tell you about my relatives that jump the border to come to this racist land of no opportunity and work their asses off and prosper?

What I'd really like you to explain is the need to place blame and deny that there may be cultural reasons (20 years of gangsta rap) for the skewed crime rates.

[Young]

Originally Posted by escorpio

You mean I don't get to tell you about my relatives that jump the border to come to this racist land of no opportunity and work their asses off and prosper?

What I'd really like you to explain is the need to place blame and deny that there may be cultural reasons (20 years of gangsta rap) for the skewed crime rates.

OK....First whats with the mexican reference ?

Second of all....it sounds like you're getting mad on the internet.... just as funny as number one.

Third is a quesiton...what do you think started the Gangster Rap? It was a backlash against society...

Dude you are not even on my level. Seriously...leave me alone. I will not reply to this thread anymore.

[Young]

and where did I deny it was culture????? But what exactly bread this "culture"?

Is it in black peoples genes? did it come over with them from Africa? NO! The culture comes from inherent discrimination and lack of oppurtunity. Thats what it all boils down too.

damn...are people really this dumb?

[escorpio]

Originally Posted by Young

OK....First whats with the mexican reference ?

I wasn't talking about you, I was talking about me.

Originally Posted by Young

Third is a quesiton...what do you think started the Gangster Rap? It was a backlash against society...

So that makes it a positive influence? It glorifies negative behavior.

Originally Posted by Young

Dude you are not even on my level. Seriously...leave me alone.

Not on your level? What level is that?

[Young]

escopio...listen dude. im done internet arguing. we agree to disagree. maybe you get kicks out of this shit but i don't.

moving right along.

[Young]

Originally Posted by Young

and where did I deny it was culture????? But what exactly bread this "culture"?

Is it in black peoples genes? did it come over with them from Africa? NO! The culture comes from inherent discrimination and lack of oppurtunity. Thats what it all boils down too.

damn...are people really this dumb?

ya im quoting myself...because im sooo fucking right.
Did I say it made it a positive influence? Why are we arguing about gangster rap now??

but anyways....its done and over with

[Scott McD]

Does Michael Jackson count as a black singer still ??

[escorpio]

Originally Posted by Young

escopio...listen dude. im done internet arguing. we agree to disagree. maybe you get kicks out of this shit but i don't.

moving right along.

Does having a discussion with someone who's ideas differ from your own upset you that much?

[BigCashCrew]

this post is stupid. lol

[escorpio]

Originally Posted by Young

ya im quoting myself...because im sooo fucking right.
Did I say it made it a positive influence? Why are we arguing about gangster rap now??

but anyways....its done and over with

We are not arguing about gangster rap, I simply used it as an example of a negative cultural influence.

[HarrytheNazi]

Originally Posted by Scott McD

Does Michael Jackson count as a black singer still ??

[Young]

Originally Posted by escorpio

Does having a discussion with someone who's ideas differ from your own upset you that much?

No its just that I'm rather sick of the subject.

Slavery
Discrimination
Seperate but Equal struck down
Lack of economic stability and education
Breed's Ghettos and ruins inner city's once white people move away
Crime runs rampant in inner city's and ghettos
Affirmative Action attempts to balance the inherent discrimination
Gangster rap takes the crims and glorifies it
Builds a culture of Gangster Rap and Hostility towards society
The disenfranchised accept this culture, and embrace it

there you have it. both of our theories...in one.

[escorpio]

Originally Posted by Scott McD

Does Michael Jackson count as a black singer still ??

The Jackson 5 made some great music. "ABC", "I Want You Back", "Never Can Say Goodbye" are all fantastic pieces of work that will stand as soul classics for all time.

[Hollywood Horwitz]

Originally Posted by HarrytheNazi

..hmmmmm

the drummer of the my band plays in this guys band,lol for realz!

[escorpio]

Originally Posted by Young

No its just that I'm rather sick of the subject.

Slavery
Discrimination
Seperate but Equal struck down
Lack of economic stability and education
Breed's Ghettos and ruins inner city's once white people move away
Crime runs rampant in inner city's and ghettos
Affirmative Action attempts to balance the inherent discrimination
Gangster rap takes the crims and glorifies it
Builds a culture of Gangster Rap and Hostility towards society
The disenfranchised accept this culture, and embrace it

there you have it. both of our theories...in one.

Not bad. But I would question why white people are necessary to make a neighborhood a non-ghetto and why such an obviously negative thing as gangsta rap would be embraced as a statement against white society when it largely encourages black on black violence.

[Young]

Originally Posted by escorpio

Not bad. But I would question why white people are necessary to make a neighborhood a non-ghetto and why such an obviously negative thing as gangsta rap would be embraced as a statement against white society when it largely encourages black on black violence.

All answers I can attempt to provide.

You have to understand that the U.S. of today was alot different from the U.S. of back then. There was really no "suburbs" per se. Everything was seperated...restaurants, schools etc. Communities within the city were seperated by color.......heavily populated black areas and white areas.

At that time there were no blacks in position of power. "Good Jobs" that people made "real money" with were hardly ever given to black people. White people had all the money. They are the one who drove the economy. The law of seperate but equal regulated schools and public faciilities. When seperate but equal was struck down....white people (Money) all moved OUTWARD away from the INNER city....taking the money, businesses and school funds with them. Black people did not have the money (that comes from good jobs) to do this. therefore they remained in the INNER city. Whats an economy with no money? Whats a city with little to no economy...a Ghetto.

OH and the gangster rap...women, gold chains, money.....all appealing things to a disenfranchised society. Ever hear Rock music that just makes you want to drive faster and faster? Kind of the same thing...

[escorpio]

Originally Posted by Young

All answers I can attempt to provide.

You have to understand that the U.S. of today was alot different from the U.S. of back then. There was really no "suburbs" per se. Everything was seperated...restaurants, schools etc. Communities within the city were seperated by color.......heavily populated black areas and white areas.

At that time there were no blacks in position of power. "Good Jobs" that people made "real money" with were hardly ever given to black people. White people had all the money. They are the one who drove the economy. The law of seperate but equal regulated schools and public faciilities. When seperate but equal was struck down....white people (Money) all moved OUTWARD away from the INNER city....taking the money, businesses and school funds with them. Black people did not have the money (that comes from good jobs) to do this. therefore they remained in the INNER city. Whats an economy with no money? Whats a city with little to no economy...a Ghetto.

OH and the gangster rap...women, gold chains, money.....all appealing things to a disenfranchised society. Ever hear Rock music that just makes you want to drive faster and faster? Kind of the same thing...

Yet after years of preferential treatment (affirmative action, minority business loans, etc.) aimed at righting the situation black society is still suffering from the same problems.



You should listen to more Farrakhan and less Jackson.

[Young]

Originally Posted by escorpio

Yet after years of preferential treatment (affirmative action, minority business loans, etc.) aimed at righting the situation black society is still suffering from the same problems.

You should listen to more Farrakhan and less Jackson.

Nothing I said is based on what those guys have to say. It's my own opinion....which i formed after weighing everything. Like I said I wrote a 50 page paper on the subject that was even forwarded to Cornell West...recieved a nice little e-mail from him.

There is no excuse for what is happening. I'm not trying to make one. Just giving my opinion.

I'm starting to sense a little "pot calling the kettle black"....after all the Mexican community has huge problems of their own. But lets leave that for another day.

Time to go booze. Nice chatting with you.

[escorpio]

Originally Posted by Young

Nothing I said is based on what those guys have to say. It's my own opinion....which i formed after weighing everything. Like I said I wrote a 50 page paper on the subject that was even forwarded to Cornell West...recieved a nice little e-mail from him.

There is no excuse for what is happening. I'm not trying to make one. Just giving my opinion.

I'm starting to sense a little "pot calling the kettle black"....after all the Mexican community has huge problems of their own. But lets leave that for another day.

Time to go booze. Nice chatting with you.

I'm 1/4 Mexican, 3/4 British and white in appearance. I live in a predominantly Mexican neighborhood. I am not a "pot" and I'm not calling anyone "black", just engaging ina discussion about race which is hard to do without upsetting people and getting labelled. I have been called everything on this board form "KKK" to "Kunta Kinte(Toby)".

[phonesex]

black people in many things.

[phonesex]

black people are talented in many things.

[SilkySnatch]

Originally Posted by escorpio

Yet after years of preferential treatment (affirmative action, minority business loans, etc.) aimed at righting the situation black society is still suffering from the same problems.



You should listen to more Farrakhan and less Jackson.

Years, thats funny lol it has not even been a whole generation yet..

Also gangsta rap is no worse than a lot of heavy metal( glorifies drug use) and country( glorifies drinking)....

Black people only make up 11% of the use population. do they really cause that many problems for American society?