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Goldmaniacs · 12-14-2005, 07:06 PM

How come there are so many program owners and promoters from Russia? Some of their sites are first class.

BoyAlley · 12-14-2005, 07:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Goldmaniacs

How come there are so many program owners and promoters from Russia? Some of their sites are first class.

Because they can have pictures of 10 year olds on their sites and spam the living fuck out of everybody and install spywear on your computer and get away with it cuz they're in a 2 bit country with shitty law enforcement

Alex · 12-14-2005, 07:08 PM

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Originally Posted by BoyAlley

Because they can have pictures of 10 year olds on their sites and spam the living fuck out of everybody and get away with it cuz they're in a 2 bit country with shitty law enforcement

Yea, but you're gay.

sfera · 12-14-2005, 07:13 PM

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Originally Posted by BoyAlley

Because they can have pictures of 10 year olds on their sites and spam the living fuck out of everybody and install spywear on your computer and get away with it cuz they're in a 2 bit country with shitty law enforcement

lol thats funny

Marshal · 12-14-2005, 07:37 PM

rofl! :D

Dildozer · 12-14-2005, 07:41 PM

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Originally Posted by BoyAlley

Because they can have pictures of 10 year olds on their sites and spam the living fuck out of everybody and install spywear on your computer and get away with it cuz they're in a 2 bit country with shitty law enforcement

EXACTLY!!!

PixeLs · 12-14-2005, 07:45 PM

Any Russians here?

Dildozer · 12-14-2005, 07:57 PM

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Originally Posted by PixeLs

Any Russians here?

They're busy spamming most likely, or participating in vodka riots

Mister B · 12-15-2005, 05:51 PM

who in the biz? :D

After Shock Media · 12-15-2005, 05:58 PM

Ahh stop the damn Russian hate.
There are more scammers, spammers, and cheaters in North America than there is in Russia in this biz. Out of all the deals I have done over the years I have only had one bad experience with a Russian, yet somehow I have been fucked out of thousands by people in North America.

Fact is they are just an easy scape goat for many. Then people also think "oh look he speaks bad english" he must be an idiot and a cheat. Despite the fact that most of "us" only speak english and the typical bad english speaker not only learned our language some they often can speak or write several others.

Fuck all the hate and by the way just because you have a whois in russia, it does not mean that the site owner is either russian or even lives there oddly enough.

smk · 12-15-2005, 06:49 PM

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Originally Posted by After Shock Media

Ahh stop the damn Russian hate.
There are more scammers, spammers, and cheaters in North America than there is in Russia in this biz. Out of all the deals I have done over the years I have only had one bad experience with a Russian, yet somehow I have been fucked out of thousands by people in North America.

Fact is they are just an easy scape goat for many. Then people also think "oh look he speaks bad english" he must be an idiot and a cheat. Despite the fact that most of "us" only speak english and the typical bad english speaker not only learned our language some they often can speak or write several others.

Fuck all the hate and by the way just because you have a whois in russia, it does not mean that the site owner is either russian or even lives there oddly enough.

eh, maybe so.. but most russians i've dealt with in this biz are all schemers
just my

GTS Mark · 12-15-2005, 07:02 PM

Most of our chargebacks and fraud come from Russia... Don't get me wrong I am not a russian hater, but hey man when you continually time after time get fucked by them it leaves a bad taste in your mouth.

DH

Bluewire Ross · 12-15-2005, 07:08 PM

Under Russian law, spamming is not considered illegal, although lawmakers are working on legal projects that could protect Russian Internet users like they do in Europe and the U.S.

SilentKnight · 12-15-2005, 07:09 PM

In six years we've only had one russian-based affiliate, and they failed to pay up for almost a year. After a few lame excuses from them, we finally got our revenues, but we discontinued doing business with them.

s9ann0 · 12-15-2005, 08:11 PM

russians are cool

aico · 12-15-2005, 08:14 PM

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Originally Posted by After Shock Media

Ahh stop the damn Russian hate.
There are more scammers, spammers, and cheaters in North America than there is in Russia in this biz. Out of all the deals I have done over the years I have only had one bad experience with a Russian, yet somehow I have been fucked out of thousands by people in North America.

Fact is they are just an easy scape goat for many. Then people also think "oh look he speaks bad english" he must be an idiot and a cheat. Despite the fact that most of "us" only speak english and the typical bad english speaker not only learned our language some they often can speak or write several others.

Fuck all the hate and by the way just because you have a whois in russia, it does not mean that the site owner is either russian or even lives there oddly enough.

I've never seen sites in English that are dedicated to making fake credit cards... seen a few in Russian... and I found the links at Flashcash where they have a Russian Webmaster only forum...

Morgan · 12-15-2005, 08:17 PM

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Originally Posted by SilentKnight

In six years we've only had one russian-based affiliate, and they failed to pay up for almost a year. After a few lame excuses from them, we finally got our revenues, but we discontinued doing business with them.

you take money from your affiliates????

damn!

Fizzgig · 12-15-2005, 08:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Morgan

you take money from your affiliates????

damn!

If you are an affiliate, you have an affiliate. You and the sponsor are affiliated. See?

miss wild · 12-17-2005, 07:27 PM

Russian rocks

Dirty F · 12-17-2005, 07:34 PM

Basic_man · 12-17-2005, 07:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Franck

Mouhahahaha

PostWhore · 12-17-2005, 07:42 PM

the only people you can not trust in this business are yankees from texas and spics

aico · 12-17-2005, 07:43 PM

Wasn't it also the Russians who fucked over Paypal in the beginning?

Goldmaniacs · 01-02-2006, 04:34 PM

There are no yankees from texas

Theo · 01-02-2006, 05:01 PM

when was the last time you read here about a russian scamming someone? Not saying this doesnt exist, but I can recall like 10-threads for american/european webmasters n' companies just the last few days; add to them the shitload of aff. programs that defraud you without realising it and then we talk.

Violetta · 01-02-2006, 05:05 PM

I know one russian webmaster, and he is a great hardworking guy!

Antonio · 01-02-2006, 05:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Franck

well, lets not forget:

http://www.ifccfbi.gov/strategy/2004_IC3Report.pdf

Fraud statistics

Top Ten Countries - Perpetrator
1. United States ? 78.75%
2. Canada ? 3.03%
3. Nigeria ? 2.87%
4. United Kingdom ? 2.32%
5. Italy ? 2.01%
6. Greece ? 1.04%
7. Romania ? .92%
8. France? .86%
9. Spain ? .6%
10. China ? .58%

jade_dragon · 01-02-2006, 05:22 PM

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Originally Posted by After Shock Media

by the way just because you have a whois in russia, it does not mean that the site owner is either russian or even lives there oddly enough.

he's got 1 point there

as far as arguments about the fact that you see no posts here between people and russian scammers, why is it that people think that the whole industry is on this board?

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After Shock Media It's coming look busy Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: "Ph'nglui mglw'nafh Cthulhu R'lyeh wgah'nagl fhtagn". Posts: 35,299	Ahh stop the damn Russian hate. There are more scammers, spammers, and cheaters in North America than there is in Russia in this biz. Out of all the deals I have done over the years I have only had one bad experience with a Russian, yet somehow I have been fucked out of thousands by people in North America. Fact is they are just an easy scape goat for many. Then people also think "oh look he speaks bad english" he must be an idiot and a cheat. Despite the fact that most of "us" only speak english and the typical bad english speaker not only learned our language some they often can speak or write several others. Fuck all the hate and by the way just because you have a whois in russia, it does not mean that the site owner is either russian or even lives there oddly enough. __________________ [email protected] ICQ:135982156 AIM: Aftershockmed1a MSN: [email protected]

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GTS Mark Vrume Mark Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Toronto, Canada Posts: 20,912	Most of our chargebacks and fraud come from Russia... Don't get me wrong I am not a russian hater, but hey man when you continually time after time get fucked by them it leaves a bad taste in your mouth. DH

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Theo HAL 9000 Industry Role: Join Date: May 2001 Posts: 34,515	when was the last time you read here about a russian scamming someone? Not saying this doesnt exist, but I can recall like 10-threads for american/european webmasters n' companies just the last few days; add to them the shitload of aff. programs that defraud you without realising it and then we talk.

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