AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE

They literally abuse people who surf porn with unwanted ad's. Sex and its subject may be no big deal to us but to ordinary people it's a big deal.

Spammers literally take money from a real working webmasters, as we all know most people when they want porn will look for it. They do not need an email to do it. Thus the result is you lose serious volumes of sales and traffic.

Spammers give our industry a bad name. Publicly and demonised by mainstream media, bringing in unwanted law's and unwanted enforcements making life harder for us all.

Spammers abuse children whom recieve an explicit email in thier email. This is single handedly the most under acknowledged crime. This crime to the underaged is to sick to address...

Spammers that host with a company you host with endanger you're own business with that host provider. For example SPAM complaints can actually shut down you're datacenter since they might be located in a box right next to you.

It comes down to honestly making money in this business and working for it. Spammers generally have no skills, they just hit the send button.

The sadest thing is that many sponsors relie on Spammers and generally treat spammers like kings. All it really does is empower a complete fucking moron that is breaking the law and rewarding them for it.

So you people out there that think "so and so" is a cool guy, or "so and so" is brilliant... Wrong! Sorry! the truth is he is an idiot, a law breaker and a child molester. The spammer is no hero to our industry looking up to loosers like this only makes you become one.

Lastly Spammers are not "Industry", they like to pretend they might be but remember all they are doing is hitting a submit button, they do not give a fuck about this industry, a fuck about a niche, a fuck about laws or children.

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The Demon

This may be so, but I don't consider "webmastering" a career either..

chadglni

Oh so every spammer is slinging porn? More ignorance from iAlien.

chadglni

And spam is illegal in every country? You are one sharp motherfucker, has anyone ever told you that?

The Demon

I couldn't have put it better myself.

AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE

yeah now they sling epharm shit so thats OK?

Idiot.

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chadglni

Next time you're sitting around crying about how this industry shits on you and thinking about how broke you are read this thread. Your ignorance is on an entirely different level.

OY

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AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE

I been here for 12 years.
Ya know why? I earn my money honestly

It may not be the easiest route but obviously I can sleep well knowing most every penny I have made is an honest penny.

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chadglni

Yeah because contacting people with product offers is sooooo dishonest. I mean the government and offline businesses would NEVER do that.

I need some design work done on my site that nets 5 figures. If I throw a few bills your way will you hook it up?

MontrealPimp

holy shit, did we just hit all your inboxes?

psili

What about the billions cost in wasted time spent deleting spam, configuring spam filters, buying spam filters, lost emails because they were deleted amongst a group of spam emails, phishing spam, preying on computer users whose VCR clocks are still blinking "12:00", overloaded email servers and internet pipelines..... etc. etc. etc.

You just touched on a tiny percentage of why spammers should be put in the grave.

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AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE

If the reciever is not opted in, there is no gray area about spam. It is illegal ( in the states ), now I realise most you spammers out there think that Americans are a bunch of scumbags but hey it's our people you target to make a buck from. Thats such an irony.

Move along spammer.
You do not belong here.

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chadglni

Damn this reply just changed my entire opinion. I think the USA and Canada should lock up every spammer within their borders so some people in third world countries can take up the slack! Who gives a shit if billions of dollars in revenue leave the economy.

<Antis are the dumbest group of fucking people in the entire world. You stand there right next to PETA and the people that blow up abortion clinics because they don't like murder.>

The Demon

You make your money honestly? Holy jesus, you're a porn webmaster! Your career is to promote PORNOGRAPHY. Honest living blah blah, can we say hypocrite?

chadglni

Not a spammer, I just have enough braincells to understand how retarded you and your stance on the subject are. Here's one for you, quit designing for scumbag companies that deal in shady shit like spam, spyware, and prechecked crosssales. Stand by your convictions, or are you a pussy?

AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE

LOL!

Big difference.

I can code, I can design, I shoot my own content and have a nice little collection of AVS free sites. My piss that flows in the toilet bowl has more skills than a spammer.

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The Demon

Yea, and a spammer can hit the go button, make twice as you, and continue with a real education and a career, while you spend your days designing porn, shooting porn, and surrounding yourself with porn 24/7. I wonder if you even have a family..

AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE

Well as a matter a fact.

I never designed for spyware, I never designed Mail ad's, only 1 or two clients did pre check cross sales on designs I have done. How many times have I said that I pick people I do business with first? I always have and always will.

Like I said...

Move along spammer you do not belong here, you know nothing about my business, you know nothing about me. It is clear who the fucken retard is here.

Its you kiddo.

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The Demon

Yes, by the illiteracy and simplistic vocabulary it is clear that the majority of webmasters are social outcasts who didn't have the intelligence nor the social skills to make it in the real world, which is why they hide behind their computers and their porn living out their days in pathetic fashion.. You've made a brilliant point here poindexter.. Quit while you're behind.

chadglni

More skills or more money. More skills or more money. More skills or more money. More skills or more money.

We know your choice. I can barely code html, no programming, no design skills, nothing. Just enough sense to pay to get that done and still take a profit.

nofx

paperless coupons are good for the economy

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The Demon

Is there someone more intelligent than AlienQ that can make their point across in reference to the webmasters of this industry, because this kid is making you guys look bad..

chadglni

I don't spam for the second time and I don't even sell porn. Blow it out your ass and swallow it again idiot. You will always be the shit on someone elses shoe. You think you don't design for spammers in this biz? ahahahahhaa

HAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE

I wonder if I even have a family myself, but again you have no idea about my family. I do surround myself with porn, I work with it on a daily basis, I involve myself in the industry rather than HIDE what I am or deny it. Is that some sort of problem? Am I "Addicted"? LOL!

Are you ashamed at what you wish ya could be?

Sounds like it.
How a real pornographer lives his life is not a shameful one. Infact I must say since I made the decision when I was 18 or 19 I have never looked back, there is nothing else I would rather do for a living.

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psili

Yes, maybe the whole "in the grave" thing was a bit over the top.

I really think spammers should send me money because of the time they waste me. Really. I want what I'd charge for freelance work for every second they take of my time.

Fuck them. Fuck their spam.

Make an argument for them, well, I won't say "fuck you", but hey... how can you argue for them?

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AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE

So you are not a spammer. You do not know how to code, no programming ability, no design ability, no photography skills...

So you are a waist here and probably about everywhere else, a non factor.
I got it.

Sucks to be you. Now i understand why ya do not like me

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The Demon

Yea alien you got me, I wish I could surround myself with low class people in a low class industry. I sure envy you...

The Demon

Btw, learn how to use the proper words in the proper contexts, damn illiterate "webmasters"...

AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE

And you are on GFY for what?
Business?

Fucken retard.

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AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE

Someone said it about right.

Spammers oughtah be dragged from thier homes and shot in the street.

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chadglni

Since you aren't talking like AlienQ I'll answer seriously.

Point 1) There is not a damn thing that can be done about spammers in other countries. They don't give a shit what anyone thinks and there will ALWAYS be someone to take the traffic. The "billions" of dollars in cost will be here if there wasn't one person on the continent sending spam. Therefore, I would have to say I'd rather see that money put back into the economy.

Point 2) Everyone gets junk mail, phone calls, and the government sells your info when you get incorporated. They sell this info to companies that send you junk mail or call you to sell you something. If we wanted to add up every second wasted talking to telemarketers or sorting through bullshit mail it would eclipse the costs you come up with for spam tenfold. The ONLY difference in those forms of advertising is the government gets a cut either by selling your info outright or postage on the mail. The government does not care if someone tries to sell you something, it's free enterprise and just and everyday cost of doing business. The only reason spam has gotten a bad rap is politicians using it as a rallying point to get support. They have done the same with telemarketing but if you look into it you will see that it's just a con to make more money. The government CHARGES YOU to get access to the do not call list so you can scrub your numbers and avoid fines or jail time.

Point 3) Almost everyone involved in this industry deals with a company that deals with spam, spyware, and other shady shit on a regular basis. This industry was built, and is still heavily financed through these practices. To say you 100% don't agree with them and stand by what you say you would have to cut off all ties to others. That means you open your own site, shoot your own content, and generate your own traffic. But don't use the traffic from any TGPs that might deal with spam or spyware behind the scenes. Anything else makes you a hypocrite.

G-Rotica

WTF? Since when is porn dishonest?

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Quickdraw

Fighting, complaining about SPAM makes me no money, and usually makes things harder as when they find out who did the complaining the SPAM goes up.(I wouldn't suggest forwarding SPAM email to any sponsor that asks for it on this board)

If I know a company is allowing SPAM, I will not promote them as the time will come when I wonder why my check has not come only to find out their assets have been frozen.

The best thing I have done to stop SPAM is install BOXTrapper Spam trap on my accounts.(Yes there has been a company doing this type service for a long time, but I like direct control) Before that I downloaded all email and filtered it through more software. Only around 200k SPAM email this year before BoxTrapper was installed. Life will now be much easier.

The Demon

I won't even reply to that.. And no, I'm on GFY because I like to study low class humans in their natural habitat..

chadglni

Tell that to the people I pay for services and those that, with my help, make more money than you after one month in the industry. I almost want to feel sorry for you but then you open your trap and spew some more garbage and the feeling passes. If anyone is a non factor it is you my friend.

G-Rotica

You won't even reply to it because you can't. You're a fucking moron. Go away.

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The Demon

Yes I'm a fucking moron because I can't reply to why porn is dishonest. You must be one of the typical Webmasters I'm talking about. Quit embarassing yourself and go back to making your gay porn galleries.

AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE

Yeah Chadglni is a high roller now!

LOL!

Move on troll...
Face it, I prolly make more money than you, and I do not make alot! But i make a living! If ya had any integrety you would have a sig, a sponsorship an ad a website a work of somthing that you would be proud of showing. Instead you just hide and pretend...

YOU ARE A NOBODY.

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The Demon

I'd rather make 7 figures in a law career than 5-6 in a low life career..

AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE

Yes you are a total fucking retard.
Move along.

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chadglni

Why do you have gallery designs in your portfolio? I mean gosh dude, they are putting these on TGP's where millions of underage surfers visit daily. You are the scum of the earth for being associated with such trashy tactics as making porn available to children. Shame on you.

AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE

Ahhh so you are a High roller as well or somthing?
Dude get out of here fuckin idiot.

God damn the posers come out when the spam hits the fan.

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The Demon

Says the one with the IQ of dry paint. Social outcasts shouldn't argue with people that are superior to them in every aspect of life.

G-Rotica

Gay porn galleries? You say that like it's a bad thing. Homophobe much? Does gay porn secretly excite you and you just can't handle it? And no, there is nothing typical about me assmunch.

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The Demon

Like its a bad thing? Thanks for proving yourself as a low class failure...

AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE

Where are my gallery designs?

God damn tards. UNREAL!

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chadglni

My mistake, you only have paysite designs that are active on unprotected urls and still have millions of kids surfing them daily. Same thing captain stupid. Why on earth would you include hardcore porn in your designs knowing full well kids will see them?



It's a damn shame.

psili

Look man, I shouldn't have joined this thread because 1. I hate spam, 2. It's there and there's little to stop it.

For example: I hate those stupid AOL cds I get in the mail every week. I hate them because the packaging kills trees, the CDs make shitty coasters and they are the cause of more people on the internet that shouldn't be on the internet. However, those people who shouldn't be on the internet from AOL are making a bunch of people money who can sell to those people.

I see. I understand how it is.

Regardless, I was just voicing my opinions of those who spam my email accounts:

I dislike them.
I wish it would stop.
I think they should pay me money.
And companies making money off it have a shitty, shady business model. Those should be outed, ostracized and banned from being sponsored.

Then again, I could just be grumpy right now and, again, shouldn't have posted in this thread.

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G-Rotica

Ok dumbass, how did I prove myself as a low class failure? Gay porn is not a bad thing. Porn is not a bad thing. And promoting porn does not make a person bad. It's only sex, get over it.

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