asdfqwer

Here is my list,in fact each host is different and there is no such a thing as "ideal host",those that are simply perfect has negative point as well,the price,however when i have contacted them i was inquirying for one server,since you are getting tens of servers they shoul dbe able to make you discount

Top hosts

http://www.isprime.com/ probably the only host that is connected at 60 Gbps
http://www.jupiterhosting.com/
http://www.cyberwurx.com/
http://www.natnet.com
http://www.rackspace.com
http://datapipe.com/
http://www.flyingcroc.net/hosting/
http://www.swiftwill.com/

Although they are all in the same list,they are all different,for example by response time to email tickets and DDoS policy
DDoS should be an issue with you,either you are hosting many small websites or one big you should has faced an attack in past

I know that ISPrime.com and Natnet.com has reached some decent success in fighting against DDoS

Other hosts that i would also consider are below,they are cheaper than above ones but are still very good


http://www.cavecreek.com/ owned by ccbill,the same company,same network
http://www.realitychecknetwork.com/
http://www.webair.com/ i have seen a very few negative posts about them and a lot of positive responses
http://www.techiemedia.net/ i heard nothing but good things about them

That one is unmanaged but has a good network and offering private racks,you could find a good management company and get servers there,the price (ev1servers+management) should be the same as going with a managed company
http://www.ev1servers.net/

90% your choice is depends on your budget

There is a known webhosting dedicated forum where you may want to research as well but you wont find anything new there,simply because top hosts list is small and known

Hopefully you will make a right decision,hosting is a critical factor for any website

Good luck

FiberNexus

Jay what?s your ICQ if you don?t mind me asking? I?d really like to hear more about your ISPrime chronicles .

Yeah I?ve actually hosted with cyberwurx before and they?re pretty good (pretty CHEAP too). I wasn?t in LOVE with their routing but they have solid performance and definitely 99.9%+ network uptime. But they?re just not ?mission-critical? enough wit the level of support and management services for what I?m doing. And as far as I know, RackSpace doesn?t offer colo services otherwise I would have probably gone with them.

Certainly, I put all of my shared hosting customers on their own IPs to help manage DDoS attacks. I also have juniper firewalls and IDS/IPS. But I need a provider that can HELP ME mitigate DDoS attacks effectively. This is something I?m going to inquire about when I contact the above hosts. I was just looking for everyone? input on their level of service.

Isn?t TM singled homed on Level3? That?s definitely not an option for me. I?m not a huge fan of level3, but having it in a BGP is usually a good thing. Level3 by itself is definitely not optimal though.

Thank you!

Thank you so much asdfqwer for your in-depth post, I really appreciated it.

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webair is good for me, support is good and uptime too...
i have 4 servers there and i am happy with them..

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"Isn?t TM singled homed on Level3? That?s definitely not an option for me. I?m not a huge fan of level3, but having it in a BGP is usually a good thing. Level3 by itself is definitely not optimal though. "


I believe that was true however I just heard that they brought in a 10 gig fiber link of WVFiber which is a very good carrier as a matter of fact it is the same carrier that NatNet uses.

ServerGenius

Webair has great solutions for colocation customers. In case you are really
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could always register your own IP block with Arin.net

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FiberNexus

Well let?s go over a few things here, I think everyone would be interested in knowing a little bit more about their providers:

I used FixedOrbit to get this information and I know it?s not always up to date, I?m also not sure if I read it all right but I am hoping representatives from these companies (if they are present here) can correct me where I?m wrong?

So who are ISPrime?s transit/backbone providers? Which ones are peers and which ones are transit? Also, is ISPrime?s ?new datacenter? still in the Telehouse facility?

So they?re hiding their BGP mix from the public? Who are Webair?s TRANSIT providers and peers?

As far as I know all of those are transit, no peering. But it?s a very good mix...

Cogent isn?t in their premium bandwidth mix but they use it for their ?value? bandwidth customers.

Again, who are the backbones here? Level3, Globix, HE and WVFiber?

NatNet is single homed on WVFiber bandwidth?

How hard is it to do that? How much does it cost for like a class c?

BTW: If anyone wants to email me information about any of the listed companies PLEASE DO ? for example, a lot of people don?t seem willing to share details about their negative experiences in public? email them to me! Your opinions will help shape my choice. [email protected].

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I pitty the host that ends up dealing with this guy.....I smell Nothing but trouble down the road

SweetT

Hey FiberNexus...

The Fixed Orbit system is flawed. When it first started a few years ago I was hoping it was going to be a good way to give impartial information, but the system does not account for everything. I am not a network person, but I employ an entire staff of them and they told me more than a year ago that you can't trust FO anymore so I havent looked at it since.

Seriously...you seem like a smart person...did you ever really think that NatNet could possibly be single homed? Of course, not.

I haven't gotten an email from you yet about your free trips...I would think that you would be more interested in seeing things for yourself than to listen to people on GFY, but I want you to be as informed as you possibly can so whatever you think works.


--T

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Biggy

In my opinion, when it comes to hosting, no news is great. The one thing every owner wants to hear with respect to their servers is nothing, and everything is running smoothly. ISPrime is without a doubt in my mind the best on that list. The manpower they have on their technical support team is crazy, but not only that - the tech support guys actually know what the hell they are doing.

I've had some serious nightmares with some of the other companies you mentioned on that list. You'll never get a true opinion off a board, if you're looking for the best host, look at their customers... bangbros, tcg, etc.

One other thing about ISPrime that separates them and their thinking from the rest, they will never come on a public message board and pump their own company. I actually asked them why they do this... they said they let their customers do the talking for them.

asdfqwer

"Yeah I?ve actually hosted with cyberwurx before and they?re pretty good (pretty CHEAP too). "

I guess you mean their unmanaged solution since managed servers cost 3x of website prices,which are not cheap


"But I need a provider that can HELP ME mitigate DDoS attacks effectively."

Then ISPrime.com and Natnet would be the choice,they dont charge extra to mitigate attacks and ISPrime did some nice job for me in that field,make sure to ask all hosts "whats your DDoS mitigation policy"

"Isn?t TM singled homed on Level3? That?s definitely not an option for me. I?m not a huge fan of level3, but having it in a BGP is usually a good thing. Level3 by itself is definitely not optimal though."

As far as i know they use Level3 and wvfiber which are the best bw providers in today's market

asdfqwer

Tony i have emailed you

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FiberNexus

Why, because I care about ?my- company/customers and don?t want to just sign up with ?webair? because they have the most votes on the list? You mean I?m going to be trouble because I wanted to know more about the networks of the companies that I might host with? Truthfully though? I just have a lot of equipment and am trying to find the *right* home for my stuff. If my provider keeps the network operating properly and up 100% of the time they?ll only hear from me during holidays (saying thanks) and when I need the occasional reboot/paid service. I wan a low-latency, high-speed, mission-critical network along with managed services provided by only the most competent of the providers.

I?m just trying to get some facts straight so that I come to you with right questions .
I couldn?t agree more . If they keep the network going, no blips, then everything is great. Unfortunately most hosts can?t seem to do this heh.

I meant in terms of rack space, power, and bandwidth on larger commits. Compared to other datacenters I?ve been in (the NYC area) they are incredibly cheap. NYC space and power cost absolutely premium rates. .

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I would go for Isprime. Hands down. Been with them for years and they still have superb support, never missed a beat.

cyberpunk

if you are relying on an IDS/IPS you are using the wrong tools. To truely protect against DoS to you need DPI mitagation tools. To the best of my knowledge, and SweetT and all feel free to correct me if I'm wrong, but I don;t belive any of these guys do that. I'm not saying they won;t help you if your attacked but if one of your IPS is being hammered without DPI/anonlym detection that IP/is still fucked.

For those of you listed that are intrested in this kida of tech, I don;t sell it but I do, do consulting ;)

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cyberpunk

wanted to commenct on fixed orbit, like Sweet T said , and I'll paraphase it's a joke. Pretty damn close ot useless. If you want a slightly better view of things you could use a route server to see who carries each of the above's routes. Remember though this will only show how to can get to them not how your packets will get back, which in reality is what you need to care about if you hosting content there.

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FWIW, I don;t have equipment wiht any of the above but I am fimilar with ISPrime, NatNet and Webair and can tell you from a routing point of view all 3 are great networks and you'd be happy with any of them. The others I don't know so I can;t comment on. I have never used the support of any of these guys so I can't comment on that either, can only comment on thier external connections to the internet.

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asdfqwer

Are you a tech admin or offering such a services ?

cyberpunk

There are several vendors that sell the hardware/software solutions for this. My self I'm an engineer that has deployed these systems before. I'm actully presenting at a security confrence next month and this part of the material I'm presenting. Can't say much more without crossing the line between my non-adult life and 'cyberpunk' Those that know of me in both worlds can attest to level of expertise ;)


Are you looking to buy?

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cyberpunk

For that are courious, aobut such solutions your not getting in the door for under 100k for a soliton that can filter a 2G DoS directed to any given IP and still have the sites on it still reachable by legit traffic. This would be jsut for the gear not including the cost of and engineer ( staff or cosultant) that knows how to manage/build the solution.

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maddox

dude, only ISPRIME, I host at isprime my most important sites and they are always on top of my things

maddox

also, from the listed companies I know only webair and hahahahahaha. I had an account with webair and they sucked, support was poor and I resigned. The hahahahahaha has some serious network problems not so long time ago,

maddox

contact me on icq 241091072 and I will give you some more info you need

Juicy D. Links

Fiber where in NY you from bro? I am from Long Island

Juicy D. Links

Fiber hit me up yo lets go chilllllll

Turboface

After jumping around for a few years, I finally found a home with WebAir. I've been with them for over 3 years now.

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CybermedAndy

Gotta give my vote to webair, due to Mike always being on top of things and easy to deal with. Same with Will and Sagi there

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Snake Doctor

Don't listen to this moron.

Last time I changed hosting companies I asked the owner so many questions over so many days that he thought I was starting a hosting company and just trying to get info from the competition

Smart shoppers make for good customers, since there won't be any surprises down the road.

NaughtyAce

We've been with Jupiter for almost 6 years now and I can't tell you how happy we are with them. They have a team of great guys for you to work with and many times go above and beyond what is necessary to help your business grow. We fully trust them with our business and will continue to trust and use them for years to come.
Be careful with your decision in this regard as I do notice a lot of multiple sigs floating around in this voting system here.All these companies from what I hear are good, but my vote is for Jupiter. I would look at the serious votes and get an opinion on who is serious from someone at GFY.

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Fibernexus, for one that poll is hilarious check the names who voted. Secondly isprime is in telehouse now, and the new Weehawken, NJ datacenter is completed and the move begins shortly. The datacenter is all theirs. Natnet and Isprime are the ones worth consideration.

ronbotx

Swiftwill run by Dweeks is the best and MOST ETHICAL host around. They don't sell out spammers and scumbags unlike several on the list......

Sausage

I think the sheer volume of people suggesting Webair demonstrates their lack of understanding of hosting options, and points towards a general ignorance of the many important factors of hosting.

Don't get me wrong, I have two boxes with webair that house a lot of my tgp/traffic stuff, and I am more than happy with the hosting and level of support for the price I pay. But, webair does not suit the needs of the original poster.

Adding to my original post, apart from Natnet and Isprime, jupiter actually looks really solid, and while I have no experience with them their network looks tighter than I thought. They may be worth a look in aswell.

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ronbotx

In regards to item #9, Integrity.... and Webair.

Do you want to host with a company that provides Spam Support Services to the 4th worst spammer in the world.... Alexy Panov? Check out this douchebag's bio:
http://www.spamhaus.org/rokso/listin...0-%20ckync.com
http://www.spamhaus.org/statistics/spammers.lasso

Or course that doesn't include the three additional ROKSO spammers they are currently hosting.
http://www.spamhaus.org/SBL/listings...isp=webair.com
and the 19 total SBL listings.

Can't comment on their technical expertise because I have never hosted there and NEVER will, but IMHO they suck in the integrity department.

asdfqwer

I know Cisco rep on another forum,also toplayer rep is posting as well,however i am not aware of their adult estate

Yes anything less than 100k wont handle 2gbits+ attack,for example cisco's ddos solution for 70k was almost useless

asdfqwer

Exactly,ask as many questions as you need,its not something you can buy and then ask for refund,your business will never be refunded


Fibernexus i forgot one more top player www.rackmy.com

FrankWhite

Fibernexus whatever happen to FoundryNAP ?

MrVids

truer words have never been spoken, well said

cyberpunk

Yeah the cisco guard IMO is junk, for 70k thya claim 1G of protection but infact you only get just over 400M I think it was at 40byte packets, I think it was, would have to double my notes to be sure, but htat fairly close. The solution I'm prefering right now will get you 2G @ 40byte ptks for about 80k for the mitagation hardware, plus the cost of detection software (figure anohter 50k)

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lazycash

I'd go with FoundryNap, clearly the leader of the bunch.

SexToyDave

I moved from another hosting company to Jupiter and now get better service and lower prices!
And sales Dude Poppy is the shiznit!
Also, started working with Jupiter's programmers about a new project and they were great. Much better than the other programmers I was interviewing.

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chaze

We where hosting adult sites before some of these names where even thought of

http://www.dwhs.com

No respect

TurboAngel

Try 5 years my love. Mike is the shit!

Jace

jeez, i can't believe the amount of people that didn't catch who FiberNexus is.....

SpeakEasy

Dude you are the total MORON..... This guy is Magg from Foundrynap, a known scammer. Juicy busted his ass, as well as others, and if you took your head out of your ass for a minute you would have read between the lines of my post. I NEVER once said that asking questions or gaining knowledge was a bad thing. All I said was,
"I pitty the host that ends up dealing with this guy.....I smell Nothing but trouble down the road"

As it turns out I was 100% correct, and I smelt it from his very first post. Now that both Magg and you have been humbled, you can go back to trolling, nothing left to talk about here.....


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