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jennycards · 04-18-2002, 05:25 AM

A customer of mine is complaining about receiving 4 mails from FreeEzineBucks per DAY after having subscribed.

I understand: It's their business to "spam" ... that's why they are paying us $1 per free subscription.

But I am not sure ...<UL>
<LI>... if less wouldn't be more, actually (I mean: for FEB too)
<LI>... if it's morally O.K. to refer our customers to such a "spam" nightmare?
</UL>What's your oppinion?

- Jenny (aka Otto) -

P.S.: I will probably stick with this program ... it's simply convertig too well.

vegasdude · 04-18-2002, 05:28 AM

hell ya all freeloaders should get at least 4 emailings a day.... its not like the customer dont get anything in return......

THEY GET FUCKING FREE PORN!!!

J/K

FreeEzineBucks rox and we all need to make $$$$ so I got no problem with it!

Vegas

DarkJedi · 04-18-2002, 05:32 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Jokke
Hehe they can spam all they want for what i care, as long as we get payed for it

what he said

freeloaders

bunky · 04-18-2002, 05:35 AM

Jenny,
hello and ask ur customer how many ezines they signed up for? that might answer ur question right there... everyone remember the average surfer is stupid as hell thats why they got 1000 fer hours in 45 days from AOhelL 24 hours in every day times 45 days is 1080 who other than webmasters and hackers stay up that much?

bunky

FlyingIguana · 04-18-2002, 05:46 AM

don't they get free porn in these emails?

how can u complain about free porn. thats like goin to the hun and emailing him to say his site sucks cuss there's too much free porn.

chodadog · 04-18-2002, 05:56 AM

Yeah, free porn is terrible. I cry when i don't have to use a credit card.

nocostporn · 04-18-2002, 06:11 AM

I think they HAVE to send out 4 mailings to make some profit...their webmaster payout probably went up 500% within a months time,kinda fast to turn profit when they are mailing and don't hook a person until the 9 or 10th mail out...

Ted · 04-18-2002, 07:11 AM

Even if they are sending 4 mailings a day, why is it a problem ?

I figure I lost any rights to what happens to the traffic after I sent them to the tour.

And if the surfer gets pissed off and cancels, so what ? no deductions for me

FATPad · 04-18-2002, 07:14 AM

So don't send them traffic.

ServerGenius · 04-18-2002, 07:15 AM

4 mailings per day and they don´t charge him for it....what else
does the guy want? Sounds like a fucking good deal to me!

They should sent 8 per day hehehe

DynaMite

funkmaster · 04-18-2002, 07:42 AM

"What's your oppinion? "

... spam the shit out of those fucking freeloaders until they convert ... than make em convert again through some upsells ...

Snake Doctor · 04-18-2002, 07:45 AM

The time he spent writing you to complain is probably longer than it would have taken to hit the delete key 4 times a day for a year.

An opt in list doesn't do you any good if everyone on it opts out in the first few days, so I doubt they're sending 4 emails to every subscriber daily.
Your guy probably used his email to sign up for 4 different sites, they have a shitload of categories and he probably thought he'd get more free shit that way.

Trax · 04-18-2002, 07:48 AM

feb sucks anyway

the indigo · 04-18-2002, 07:51 AM

There`s no real free porn... if you join a site almost all links go to a sponsor & popup nightmare.

Brad Mitchell · 04-18-2002, 09:30 AM

...I will say this... I joined it myself to see how much email they sent out and after I cancelled I stopped receiving the email! How about that?

Brad

pr0 · 04-18-2002, 10:09 AM

Quit bitching about opt-in mail.

And quit calling it spam.

Look at what Brad wrote right above me.....when he opted out, they quit sending.

Thats all you need to worry about.

dav555add · 04-18-2002, 10:20 AM

GIVE ME A FUCKING BREAK

They sign up for a free porn site and complain because they get too many emails.

This whole thing about "To spam or not To Spam" makes me MAD AS HELL.

Do you see the same asshole who call their Congressman when they get spam email do something when they get junk mail in their "Real" mailbox? I DON'T THINK SO.

And when you sign up for free porn you deserve to get 4 emails per day, and if you're not happy then you should STOP MASTURBATING...

heymatty · 04-18-2002, 10:25 AM

I signed up to check out the upsells also

I think I got 1 to 2 mails per day.

vegasdude · 04-18-2002, 10:28 AM

YOU ALL LIE............

you say you signed up to check how much they sent out....

we all know ya just wanted some free porn to jerk of 2....

J/K FreeEzineBucks ROX!

Vegas

LoveAsianChicks · 04-18-2002, 10:37 AM

Is a daily email sent out for each Ezine a surfer joins?

buster · 04-18-2002, 10:40 AM

how do you spell jealousy

LoveAsianChicks · 04-18-2002, 10:49 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by jennycards

P.S.: I will probably stick with this program ... it's simply convertig too well.

Good plan, but I have a feeling this program is going down in a few months.
We are all making bank but in 3-4 months I'm sure the vast majority of surfers have all seen to Ezine ads a million times.

I think signup ratios will always remain pretty good, but I bet CTR will drop.
I hope not, but I don't see how a program being run on every second website can stay fresh forever.
I'm guilty of using it too much, but anyone around for awhile can tell you of past programs that were hot & everyone just drove it into the ground after a few months.

With that being said, check my sig:

Snake Doctor · 04-18-2002, 11:06 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by LoveAsianChicks

Good plan, but I have a feeling this program is going down in a few months.
We are all making bank but in 3-4 months I'm sure the vast majority of surfers have all seen to Ezine ads a million times.

I think signup ratios will always remain pretty good, but I bet CTR will drop.
I hope not, but I don't see how a program being run on every second website can stay fresh forever.
I'm guilty of using it too much, but anyone around for awhile can tell you of past programs that were hot & everyone just drove it into the ground after a few months.

With that being said, check my sig:

That's BULLSHIT.
How long has Join4Free been around? A long fucking time. (In internet years anyways

)

Last time I checked, RRRed wasn't selling pencils on the streetcorner.

Sexymail · 04-18-2002, 12:20 PM

Jenny, go fuck your tight pussy with a BP4L members cock, you ignorant biotch!

The Chosen · 04-18-2002, 02:11 PM

It is still not a rip off like dialers.

jennycards · 04-18-2002, 09:10 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Sexymail
Jenny, go fuck your tight pussy with a BP4L members cock, you ignorant biotch!

Bitch: Yes
Fuck: Yeeeeeees

Ignorant: No

I was just asking for your oppinions.

NoCarrier · 04-18-2002, 09:26 PM

Ohhh.. The poor surfer.. They get 4 e-mails a day.

You are right guys, the surfer deserve clean galleries, with 30 hardcore images for free (With only one text link as advertising).

The surfer can also access thousands of free different pictures on a TGP. Don't let them pay. Fuck. We are here to give them free stuff.

We are in the entertainment business here. Paysites are for losers. Who cares if we are losing millions of dollars because we give them free porn. I don't give a fuck about it. I get 100k of traffic to my galleries. I rule dude. I'm more cool than the Dell dude because of this.

4 e-mails a day? FUCK? What were they thinking? We should respect the surfers. Let them have everything for free. There, I'll even leave my home address in my galleries so they can surf for free, I will also give free beers and a free kleenex box. Don't let them use their credit card, it's a free business GOD DAMN IT.

It reminds me of something.. This is a true story btw. It happened a couple of years ago. I arrived at a blackjack table at the Montreal Casino, one guy there was very happy. I asked him if it was a very good day for him.

He replied : "Oh yeah! I had 10 blackjacks today".

- "Great! How much money did you win today?"

- "Well, I lost 300$ but I got 10 blackjacks. Woohoo!!".

Pony1 · 04-19-2002, 06:57 AM

The surfer can EASILY and QUICKLY unsubscribe (the process takes two seconds)... this way everyone makes money, the webmaster makes a $1 with no deductions and febucks can profit too....

what's wrong with that??? Isn't that the point???

SR · 04-19-2002, 07:53 AM

They will survive the 4 e-mails a day...... it gives them some free porn.
They can unsubscribe if they don't like it.
But what I don't like about it is the dozen popups they have on their sites.
A few popups ok but they seem to keep comming and comming.

RRRED · 04-19-2002, 12:39 PM

I would start worrying the day that your checks bounce. I know that Hawg has a good program and they are smart enough to make sure they have the backing they need to pay webmasters for their signups. They probably aren't sending out 4 per day anyways.

A long time ago, we used to sell portions of our mailers from newest to oldest so some of the new members would get more mailers than the members who had been with us for some time. It's very important to make sure that whatever is sent out converts so this is probably what they are doing. Just testing on newer members for ratios to see if the other programs are worthy of a permanent spot. I could be wrong. I can't speak for them.

The surfer is a lucky bastard anyways. As long as they are getting what they are promised who cares? Besides if they even realized that only the best programs out there are going to be included in their "spam" they wouldn't be unsubscribing. I wish more webmasters would include this point in their sales speels.

Theo · 04-19-2002, 12:48 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by SinEmpire
...I will say this... I joined it myself to see how much email they sent out and after I cancelled I stopped receiving the email! How about that?

Brad

same here.

Sexymail · 04-19-2002, 03:20 PM

yall is a bunch of fucking hypocrits ya reckon?

04-18-2002, 05:25 AM	#1
jennycards Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: European Union Posts: 1,124	FreeEzineBucks sending 4 mailings per day A customer of mine is complaining about receiving 4 mails from FreeEzineBucks per DAY after having subscribed. I understand: It's their business to "spam" ... that's why they are paying us $1 per free subscription. But I am not sure ...<UL> <LI>... if less wouldn't be more, actually (I mean: for FEB too) <LI>... if it's morally O.K. to refer our customers to such a "spam" nightmare? </UL>What's your oppinion? - Jenny (aka Otto) - P.S.: I will probably stick with this program ... it's simply convertig too well. __________________ Make Money with true niche programs like Adult ECards - Pantyhose Fetish - Men in Pantyhose

04-18-2002, 05:28 AM	#2
vegasdude Confirmed User Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: The Royal Family Crew Posts: 3,649	hell ya all freeloaders should get at least 4 emailings a day.... its not like the customer dont get anything in return...... THEY GET FUCKING FREE PORN!!! J/K FreeEzineBucks rox and we all need to make $$$$ so I got no problem with it! Vegas __________________ Did you fucking talk to me??! Who the fuck told you to talk to me??!"

04-18-2002, 05:35 AM	#4
bunky Confirmed User Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Charlotte NC USA Posts: 902	Jenny, hello and ask ur customer how many ezines they signed up for? that might answer ur question right there... everyone remember the average surfer is stupid as hell thats why they got 1000 fer hours in 45 days from AOhelL 24 hours in every day times 45 days is 1080 who other than webmasters and hackers stay up that much? bunky __________________ BoneProne 4 Life - BoneProne Family [insert title here]

04-18-2002, 07:14 AM	#9
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04-18-2002, 07:15 AM	#10
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04-18-2002, 05:46 AM	#5
FlyingIguana aspiring banker Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: toronto Posts: 10,870	don't they get free porn in these emails? how can u complain about free porn. thats like goin to the hun and emailing him to say his site sucks cuss there's too much free porn.

04-18-2002, 05:56 AM	#6
chodadog Confirmed User Join Date: Apr 2002 Posts: 9,736	Yeah, free porn is terrible. I cry when i don't have to use a credit card.

04-18-2002, 06:11 AM	#7
nocostporn Confirmed User Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Maryland Posts: 5,228	I think they HAVE to send out 4 mailings to make some profit...their webmaster payout probably went up 500% within a months time,kinda fast to turn profit when they are mailing and don't hook a person until the 9 or 10th mail out...

04-18-2002, 07:11 AM	#8
Ted Confirmed User Join Date: Nov 2001 Posts: 830	Even if they are sending 4 mailings a day, why is it a problem ? I figure I lost any rights to what happens to the traffic after I sent them to the tour. And if the surfer gets pissed off and cancels, so what ? no deductions for me

04-18-2002, 07:42 AM	#11
funkmaster So Fucking Banned Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: shell beach Posts: 7,938	"What's your oppinion? " ... spam the shit out of those fucking freeloaders until they convert ... than make em convert again through some upsells ...

04-18-2002, 07:45 AM	#12
Snake Doctor I'm Lenny2 Bitch Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: On top of my soapbox Posts: 13,449	The time he spent writing you to complain is probably longer than it would have taken to hit the delete key 4 times a day for a year. An opt in list doesn't do you any good if everyone on it opts out in the first few days, so I doubt they're sending 4 emails to every subscriber daily. Your guy probably used his email to sign up for 4 different sites, they have a shitload of categories and he probably thought he'd get more free shit that way. __________________ sig too big

04-18-2002, 07:48 AM	#13
Trax [----------------------] Join Date: Aug 2001 Posts: 14,486	feb sucks anyway

04-18-2002, 07:51 AM	#14
the indigo Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: North America Posts: 2,016	There`s no real free porn... if you join a site almost all links go to a sponsor & popup nightmare.

04-18-2002, 09:30 AM	#15
Brad Mitchell Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Southfield, MI Posts: 9,812	...I will say this... I joined it myself to see how much email they sent out and after I cancelled I stopped receiving the email! How about that? Brad __________________ President at MojoHost \| brad at mojohost dot com \| Skype MojoHostBrad 71 industry awards for hosting and professional excellence since 1999

04-18-2002, 10:09 AM	#16
pr0 rockin tha trailerpark Industry Role: Join Date: May 2001 Location: ~Coastal~ Posts: 23,088	Quit bitching about opt-in mail. And quit calling it spam. Look at what Brad wrote right above me.....when he opted out, they quit sending. Thats all you need to worry about.

04-18-2002, 10:20 AM	#17
dav555add Confirmed User Join Date: Jun 2001 Posts: 3,427	GIVE ME A FUCKING BREAK They sign up for a free porn site and complain because they get too many emails. This whole thing about "To spam or not To Spam" makes me MAD AS HELL. Do you see the same asshole who call their Congressman when they get spam email do something when they get junk mail in their "Real" mailbox? I DON'T THINK SO. And when you sign up for free porn you deserve to get 4 emails per day, and if you're not happy then you should STOP MASTURBATING... __________________ ...

04-18-2002, 10:25 AM	#18
heymatty Confirmed User Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Scottsdale :) Posts: 2,188	I signed up to check out the upsells also I think I got 1 to 2 mails per day. __________________ Cashlantis ~ Black Book Cash

04-18-2002, 10:28 AM	#19
vegasdude Confirmed User Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: The Royal Family Crew Posts: 3,649	YOU ALL LIE............ you say you signed up to check how much they sent out.... we all know ya just wanted some free porn to jerk of 2.... J/K FreeEzineBucks ROX! Vegas __________________ Did you fucking talk to me??! Who the fuck told you to talk to me??!"

04-18-2002, 10:37 AM	#20
LoveAsianChicks Registered User Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: -CANADA- Posts: 1,464	Is a daily email sent out for each Ezine a surfer joins?

04-18-2002, 10:40 AM	#21
buster Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2002 Posts: 459	how do you spell jealousy

04-18-2002, 12:20 PM	#24
Sexymail So Fucking Banned Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Texas Posts: 350	Jenny, go fuck your tight pussy with a BP4L members cock, you ignorant biotch!

04-18-2002, 02:11 PM	#25
The Chosen Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: Hell Posts: 232	It is still not a rip off like dialers.

04-18-2002, 09:26 PM	#27
NoCarrier We need more free porn Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Montreal Posts: 16,356	Ohhh.. The poor surfer.. They get 4 e-mails a day. You are right guys, the surfer deserve clean galleries, with 30 hardcore images for free (With only one text link as advertising). The surfer can also access thousands of free different pictures on a TGP. Don't let them pay. Fuck. We are here to give them free stuff. We are in the entertainment business here. Paysites are for losers. Who cares if we are losing millions of dollars because we give them free porn. I don't give a fuck about it. I get 100k of traffic to my galleries. I rule dude. I'm more cool than the Dell dude because of this. 4 e-mails a day? FUCK? What were they thinking? We should respect the surfers. Let them have everything for free. There, I'll even leave my home address in my galleries so they can surf for free, I will also give free beers and a free kleenex box. Don't let them use their credit card, it's a free business GOD DAMN IT. It reminds me of something.. This is a true story btw. It happened a couple of years ago. I arrived at a blackjack table at the Montreal Casino, one guy there was very happy. I asked him if it was a very good day for him. He replied : "Oh yeah! I had 10 blackjacks today". - "Great! How much money did you win today?" - "Well, I lost 300$ but I got 10 blackjacks. Woohoo!!". Last edited by NoCarrier; 04-18-2002 at 09:27 PM..

04-19-2002, 06:57 AM	#28
Pony1 Registered User Join Date: Apr 2002 Posts: 2	The surfer can EASILY and QUICKLY unsubscribe (the process takes two seconds)... this way everyone makes money, the webmaster makes a $1 with no deductions and febucks can profit too.... what's wrong with that??? Isn't that the point???

04-19-2002, 07:53 AM	#29
SR Confirmed User Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: The Netherlands Posts: 2,239	They will survive the 4 e-mails a day...... it gives them some free porn. They can unsubscribe if they don't like it. But what I don't like about it is the dozen popups they have on their sites. A few popups ok but they seem to keep comming and comming.

04-19-2002, 12:39 PM	#30
RRRED Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: WA Posts: 6,754	I would start worrying the day that your checks bounce. I know that Hawg has a good program and they are smart enough to make sure they have the backing they need to pay webmasters for their signups. They probably aren't sending out 4 per day anyways. A long time ago, we used to sell portions of our mailers from newest to oldest so some of the new members would get more mailers than the members who had been with us for some time. It's very important to make sure that whatever is sent out converts so this is probably what they are doing. Just testing on newer members for ratios to see if the other programs are worthy of a permanent spot. I could be wrong. I can't speak for them. The surfer is a lucky bastard anyways. As long as they are getting what they are promised who cares? Besides if they even realized that only the best programs out there are going to be included in their "spam" they wouldn't be unsubscribing. I wish more webmasters would include this point in their sales speels.

04-19-2002, 03:20 PM	#32
Sexymail So Fucking Banned Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Texas Posts: 350	yall is a bunch of fucking hypocrits ya reckon?