European BW is dirt cheap! - GoFuckYourself.com

xlogger · 02-14-2006, 10:58 PM

Seriously, did you guys know this?

Not only do some european hosting companies have dirt cheap (yes less than cogent!), they even have better networks. The reason they have cheap bw is because of good peering relationships there. Anyone here on a european host (UK)?

Tempest · 02-14-2006, 11:01 PM

Didn't know that, but I'd like to get some virtual accounts on some servers located in Italy, the UK, netherlands and maybe Spain..

xlogger · 02-14-2006, 11:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Tempest

Didn't know that, but I'd like to get some virtual accounts on some servers located in Italy, the UK, netherlands and maybe Spain..

Definitely check some EU hosts. (go to WHT and search for them)

I actually ordered 2 big ass servers today. They will be online tomorrow - they will be fast and they will save me a load of $$$.

xlogger · 02-14-2006, 11:14 PM

O shit, i totally forgot about this.

No more 2257 bullshits either!

JOKER · 02-14-2006, 11:20 PM

France = Dirtcheap (mostly free peerings, but good networks)

Germany = Dirtcheap, but sometimes strange TOS and Laws...

NL = Cheap and good.

Sweden = Hard to get, but worth it.

Austria, Switzerland = soon, most buy in Germany

UK = unsure, not the best references I've found.

Still looking into many more.

spacekadet · 02-14-2006, 11:23 PM

Any good EU hosting reccomendations?

MrJazz99 · 02-14-2006, 11:25 PM

Contact me bout swedish bw, i can pull some strings....

xlogger · 02-14-2006, 11:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by spacekadet

Any good EU hosting reccomendations?

The compant that i am going with seems very good.

I just want to make some test runs before i can reccomend them.

JOKER · 02-14-2006, 11:29 PM

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Originally Posted by MrJazz99

Contact me bout swedish bw, i can pull some strings....

hit me up on ICQ with pricing if you have any plans handy.

Thanx,
Steve

JOKER · 02-14-2006, 11:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by spacekadet

Any good EU hosting reccomendations?

What country and specs are you interested in?

spacekadet · 02-14-2006, 11:38 PM

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Originally Posted by JOKEREMPIRE

What country and specs are you interested in?

I like what I've heard about NL

1x 50mbps
dual xeon

5x 10mbps
p4s

unmetered.. Thanks

strobi · 02-14-2006, 11:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by spacekadet

Any good EU hosting reccomendations?

Check out adult EU host -> adultEUhost

10 mbit dedicated for 145 euros/month, and hellah fast!

Theo · 02-14-2006, 11:44 PM

i can personally vouch for www.webazilla.com

strobi · 02-14-2006, 11:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by spacekadet

I like what I've heard about NL

1x 50mbps
dual xeon

5x 10mbps
p4s

unmetered.. Thanks

You can get that for 850$ (5 server, 10 mbit uncapped).

Alot of GFY'ers host there!

SomeCreep · 02-14-2006, 11:46 PM

around the world, around the world...

spacekadet · 02-14-2006, 11:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by strobi

You can get that for 850$ (5 server, 10 mbit uncapped).

Alot of GFY'ers host there!

Thanks strobi I'll check it out

spacekadet · 02-14-2006, 11:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by xlogger

The compant that i am going with seems very good.

I just want to make some test runs before i can reccomend them.

don't be shy

JOKER · 02-14-2006, 11:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by spacekadet

I like what I've heard about NL

1x 50mbps
dual xeon

5x 10mbps
p4s

unmetered.. Thanks

http://www.leaseweb.com/index.php?p=dedicatedvolume

or build your own:

http://www.leaseweb.com/index.php?p=...erverdedicated

Study the site a little, about SLA, Connectivity etc.

As reference for other countries:

France: http://www.ikoula.com/Serveurs/Serve...5/Default.aspx

http://ovh.com/en/

http://www.ctn1.net/?lg=en (sometimes sold out)

Germany: http://ipx.de

(Non-Adult) Germany: http://strato.de/server/highend/index.html

Thats all the cheap ones...

spacekadet · 02-14-2006, 11:57 PM

wow, thanks!

JOKER · 02-14-2006, 11:59 PM

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Originally Posted by spacekadet

wow, thanks!

Welcome... If you have any questions, leave me an ICQ msg, as I'll be hitting the cushions soon...

Sarah_Jayne · 02-15-2006, 02:53 AM

I wouldn't host porn in the UK..just my view though

Matt_WildCash · 02-15-2006, 04:12 AM

Considering 80-90% of people buying porn are in the USA I feel its best to keep things in the USA, even if its on cogent its still going to be better than going all the way to Europe and back speed wise.

And when I say 80-90% I mean for paysites paying PPS. Most of Europe either doesn't have creditcards, is scared of using them or the billing companies CCbill & Epoch block most of them. Dunno but 80-90% of credit card orders on paysites which are the basis for PPS programs are still USA based. And any other ways of billing Europe usually =$2-5 once off per customer for the paysite owner nothing more. Other billing options suck plan and simple for Europe. Would be good to see that change.

Good to see bandwidth dropping elsewhere though, what can you get a 100mbit pipe for in Europe these days for?

u-Bob · 02-15-2006, 04:15 AM

AdultEUHost <--- GREAT.

digifan · 02-15-2006, 04:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sarah_webinc

I wouldn't host porn in the UK..just my view though

Why is this?

Sarah_Jayne · 02-15-2006, 04:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by digifan

Why is this?

Because the law regarding porn on the internet aren't clear. If you are doing anything beyond basic softcore I would keep off UK hosts.

xxxory · 02-15-2006, 04:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Matt_WildCash

Most of Europe either doesn't have creditcards, is scared of using them or the billing companies CCbill & Epoch block most of them.

You should try to get an european bank account without any credit card, nearly impossible these days!

mattyboy · 02-15-2006, 04:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Matt_WildCash

Good to see bandwidth dropping elsewhere though, what can you get a 100mbit pipe for in Europe these days for?

I've seen...

Cpu 2.8
1024Mb ram
120GB harddisk
100Mbit Bandwith

1365,- euros
per month no setup

mattyboy · 02-15-2006, 04:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Matt_WildCash

Most of Europe either doesn't have creditcards, is scared of using them or the billing companies CCbill & Epoch block most of them.

Are you nuts??

digifan · 02-15-2006, 04:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sarah_webinc

Because the law regarding porn on the internet aren't clear. If you are doing anything beyond basic softcore I would keep off UK hosts.

Oh I see... makes sense to me thanks

XX_RydeR · 02-15-2006, 04:37 AM

I just got another server.

Fully managed dedicated server, decent specs, and unmetered bandwith for under $300.

I dont think bandwidth is so expensive.

jjjay · 02-15-2006, 06:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Matt_WildCash

Most of Europe either doesn't have creditcards...

I stopped reading right there. what the fucking are you talking about??

strobi · 02-15-2006, 07:49 AM

Some good info in this thread, so bump! BW is getting chhheeeaaappppp.

Paul Markham · 02-15-2006, 08:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Matt_WildCash

Most of Europe either doesn't have creditcards, is scared of using them or the billing companies CCbill & Epoch block most of them.

We also don't have hot and cold running water or electricity.

You're very mistaken.

chowda · 02-15-2006, 08:57 AM

good list

post if theres more.

ServerGenius · 02-15-2006, 09:01 AM

For the best in EU hosting and colocation contact me. I'm provider independent,
have solid business relations with a lot of the top EU hosting companies and get
you killer deals without doing concessions to quality. My office is in 1 of the
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webair · 02-15-2006, 09:02 AM

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ServerGenius · 02-15-2006, 09:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Matt_WildCash

Considering 80-90% of people buying porn are in the USA I feel its best to keep things in the USA, even if its on cogent its still going to be better than going all the way to Europe and back speed wise.

And when I say 80-90% I mean for paysites paying PPS. Most of Europe either doesn't have creditcards, is scared of using them or the billing companies CCbill & Epoch block most of them. Dunno but 80-90% of credit card orders on paysites which are the basis for PPS programs are still USA based. And any other ways of billing Europe usually =$2-5 once off per customer for the paysite owner nothing more. Other billing options suck plan and simple for Europe. Would be good to see that change.

Good to see bandwidth dropping elsewhere though, what can you get a 100mbit pipe for in Europe these days for?

Please for your own sake stop making an ass out of yourself.....really you make yourself look like a bigger fool than you probably already are

Scotty.T · 02-15-2006, 09:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Matt_WildCash

Most of Europe either doesn't have creditcards, is scared of using them...

I don't know about that, where is that from?

The current credit card debt in the UK alone would buy membership to over 2.5 Billion porn sites

Violetta · 02-15-2006, 09:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by xlogger

O shit, i totally forgot about this.

No more 2257 bullshits either!

that is always a good reason!

jjjay · 02-15-2006, 10:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Paul Markham

We also don't have hot and cold running water or electricity.

You're very mistaken.

yup. never understood where some people on this board get their information from...

Blizzard · 02-19-2006, 11:11 AM

It's called free peering, free peering bandwidth is worse than oversold Cogent.

mikeyddddd · 02-19-2006, 11:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by xlogger

O shit, i totally forgot about this.

No more 2257 bullshits either!

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rockatansky

that is always a good reason!

But, not true for US companies and webmasters. If you are US based, you must be 2257 compliant no matter where your server is located.

ServerGenius · 02-19-2006, 11:27 AM

So incorperate in the EU (easy and cheap and great tax benefits for Foreigners).

crockett · 02-19-2006, 11:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by xlogger

O shit, i totally forgot about this.

No more 2257 bullshits either!

umm I dunno why on earth you would think that? If you are US based it doesn't matter where you host, you are required to follow US laws.

fetishblog · 02-19-2006, 11:47 AM

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Originally Posted by crockett

umm I dunno why on earth you would think that? If you are US based it doesn't matter where you host, you are required to follow US laws.

Well there are no court precedents on that yet. Only time will tell.

justsexxx · 02-19-2006, 11:52 AM

STay tuned, and there will be something very very nice for you guys

JOKER · 02-19-2006, 11:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Blizzard

It's called free peering, free peering bandwidth is worse than oversold Cogent.

Bullshit.

Marshal · 02-19-2006, 02:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by crockett

umm I dunno why on earth you would think that? If you are US based it doesn't matter where you host, you are required to follow US laws.

why would you still hold your business in US? start a new firm on any place on this earth which has tax benefits... you might be US based physically, but your business wouldn't be...

BigPinPin · 02-19-2006, 02:23 PM

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Marshal · 02-19-2006, 02:36 PM

btw, i have never thought that EU prices could be that low!

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