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Old 02-23-2006, 11:00 AM   #1
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iBill Fired It's IT Department

Rumor has it iBill just let go the last 3 IT people it had. This is from some pretty reliable sources, and it doesn't look good.
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Old 02-23-2006, 11:01 AM   #2
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IBill has been dead for months. Sad
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Old 02-23-2006, 11:01 AM   #3
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Old 02-23-2006, 11:04 AM   #5
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its ok you can still signup to become a new client

http://www.ibill.com/signup/signup.cfm
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Old 02-23-2006, 11:09 AM   #7
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Old 02-23-2006, 11:09 AM   #8
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I just can't believe it.
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Old 02-23-2006, 11:10 AM   #9
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Old 02-23-2006, 11:14 AM   #12
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anyone standing with Ibill must be very optimistic.
anyway, good luck getting paid.
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Old 02-23-2006, 11:28 AM   #13
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anyone standing with Ibill must be very optimistic.
anyway, good luck getting paid.
Optimistic or extremely naive?
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Old 02-23-2006, 11:30 AM   #14
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Optimistic or extremely naive?
ultrawiredsex.com is still with them last time I checked
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Old 02-23-2006, 11:34 AM   #15
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Old 02-23-2006, 11:35 AM   #16
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ultrawiredsex.com is still with them last time I checked
Ibill EU and for the most part retired.
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Old 02-23-2006, 11:35 AM   #17
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Hey... more money to make payouts to all of you that are owed. LOL

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I still think March 15th will be the day they go bust, for obvious corporate reasons

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Old 02-23-2006, 11:44 AM   #19
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I still think March 15th will be the day they go bust, for obvious corporate reasons
Someone should do a case study on this. How to take a really solid, respected and profitable organization and destroy it. Good teachings for how not to do things.
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I just hope this never ever happens to CCBILL!!!!!

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Old 02-23-2006, 12:34 PM   #21
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I just hope this never ever happens to CCBILL!!!!!

**keeps fingers crossed!**
I don't think it will, hopefully this is a lesson learned.

BTW...if you are using them, check your transactions and make sure they are correct and there is nothing additional being added to them.
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I'm surprised iBill had any departments left to get rid of.
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I still think March 15th will be the day they go bust, for obvious corporate reasons
March 15th is also the official ministry deadline that all fishermen must be off the ice on Lake Simcoe, Ontario.

No more fishing after March 15th.

Somewhere I think there's a coincidental parallel.
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Old 02-23-2006, 12:54 PM   #24
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If i think back 8 years or so when i first opened an account with Ibill they had serious issues even then. My rep was constantly making excuses by saying Ibill was growing so fast and the IT guys could not keep pace. They had issues of software refunding many thousands of membership fees for no reason other than a software glitch . Hours sometimes days when the CMI was down. Days sometimes weeks when reps didn't return phone calls or have the knowledge to answer your questions. Scripts which allowed passwords to be added by almost anyone, the list goes on and on.

The writing was on the wall when Bender sold Ibill to Penthouse and it just got worse from then on. I don't think a bank as huge as First Data would hold on to all those millions of $$ without a very serious reason and i can only guess what that may have been ?

I doubt it will happen with CCbill as long as they move with the times and keep adding new and useful features to keep pace with programs like Nats. But if they sit back and ignore the fast changes that happen in Adult then who knows ?

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The only fishing Iballs is doing is maximizing the amount of revenue it can take in before they go belly up LOL


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March 15th is also the official ministry deadline that all fishermen must be off the ice on Lake Simcoe, Ontario.

No more fishing after March 15th.

Somewhere I think there's a coincidental parallel.
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Old 02-23-2006, 01:39 PM   #27
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good, more firepower for my fucking lawsuit. calling the lawyer now to see the status of it. =)
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They actually had IT People???
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Yeah, they had three left over there who all were apparently let go today.
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It's true. Not a rumor. Spoke with one of their ex-programmers today
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Hours sometimes days when the CMI was down.

At least you didn't have to worry about it, because all sign ups were always being tracked well when it was down iBill did assure me every time again
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so who is gonna write the book:
the rise and fall of IBill ?
I am in the middle of my booklet but ..............
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Old 02-23-2006, 04:18 PM   #35
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I still think March 15th will be the day they go bust, for obvious corporate reasons
Looks like Ibill is about to offer compulsory XTV stocks now to everyone they owe money to.
This is what the email from Michelle ? the AndrewatIbill Replacement, suggests:

At this point there has been no more discussion regarding the funding. I know that there are no new negotiations with cash to the client. For client?s that are still processing with us they are making an offer of some XTV stock.
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Looks like Ibill is about to offer compulsory XTV stocks now to everyone they owe money to.
This is what the email from Michelle ? the AndrewatIbill Replacement, suggests:

At this point there has been no more discussion regarding the funding. I know that there are no new negotiations with cash to the client. For client?s that are still processing with us they are making an offer of some XTV stock.
Got the same shit from her. "We are not going to pay, but you can get stocks instead. Let me know what you think?"

What do i THINK - I think you should pay me - Everybody should stay away from Ibill.
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Old 02-23-2006, 06:23 PM   #37
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Here is some snippets from thier news page:

iBill Moves Headquarters

Internet Billing Company, LLC (iBill) announced that the relocation of their corporate headquarters to more cost-efficient facilities has been completed.

By: Ibill.com

More Headlines

07/14/05 iBill Launches Blog
06/06/05 Security Advisory
05/17/05 IBill Claims to Have Fixed Payment Glitch
04/14/05 iBill Attempts Turnaround
04/12/05 IBD Will Make Initial Payments to iBill Clients Fr
08/13/04 iBill Launches System Upgrades and Expands Product


Wow, after reading all that I'd be very, very concerned if they owed me any money. The fact that they are stupid enough to brag about such things and call attention to them by sending press releases really underscores the stupidity at play here.
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Looks like Ibill is about to offer compulsory XTV stocks now to everyone they owe money to.
This is what the email from Michelle hahaha8211; the AndrewatIbill Replacement, suggests:

At this point there has been no more discussion regarding the funding. I know that there are no new negotiations with cash to the client. For clienthahaha8217;s that are still processing with us they are making an offer of some XTV stock.
Here is the link to the stock if you want to check it out:
http://finance.yahoo.com/q?s=ITTV.OB
Funny, I remember having an arguement with Fabien quite some time ago about XTV's involvement with iBill. Guess they can't deny it any more.
Turn out the lights, the party's over....
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Ibill will come back stronger than ever! Great name recognition. Rates have just been reduced further , to only 3.99 per cent for first 90 days. Compare that to ccbill and segpay!

This is a great time to get in on the ground floor!

All checks will be going out in March as previously planned . . ?
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Someone should do a case study on this. How to take a really solid, respected and profitable organization and destroy it. Good teachings for how not to do things.


they were never solid or much respected, and as for profitable, I am sure if you looked at the books, they were only profitable for the owner
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bump for march $$$-money-$$$.
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they fired their IT people because they don't need them anymore. They're simply done ripping off webmasters and stashing their money somewhere in the Caribbean
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Don't be surprised if some large checks start going out in the mail in the next two weeks. The layoff of the IT department is just a matter of getting rid of "dead wood" that is no longer needed. That much more money for the webmasters who are owed back payments!


People should be aware that this is the best time to get in on the Ibill bandwagon. It is not too late to sign up as an Ibill customer!

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Don't be surprised if some large checks start going out in the mail in the next two weeks. The layoff of the IT department is just a matter of getting rid of "dead wood" that is no longer needed. That much more money for the webmasters who are owed back payments!


People should be aware that this is the best time to get in on the Ibill bandwagon. It is not too late to sign up as an Ibill customer!
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Looks like Ibill is about to offer compulsory XTV stocks now to everyone they owe money to.
This is what the email from Michelle ? the AndrewatIbill Replacement, suggests:

At this point there has been no more discussion regarding the funding. I know that there are no new negotiations with cash to the client. For client?s that are still processing with us they are making an offer of some XTV stock.

Hmm i dunno if thats true or not , but i came up with that idea.. " paying off its debtors with xtv stock " when i found out they used everyones money from inill to pay for the xtv stock
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Hmm i dunno if thats true or not , but i came up with that idea.. " paying off its debtors with xtv stock " when i found out they used everyones money from inill to pay for the xtv stock
so it sems we should hound XTV if IBill des not pay ?
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