Q and A: Wheelchair. - Page 3 - GoFuckYourself.com

C_U_Next_Tuesday · 03-15-2006, 02:32 PM

I lived with my g/f for a few years.. one before she had the accident and 3 after she became paralyzed. It was really hard watching her go through hell, but damn she was strong and really kicked ass at getting her life back together.

I was amazed at how easy it was for her to get sick and learned a whole lot on caring for a triapalegic.

I will never forget when my then 2 year old would lay in the bed beside her and pretend he couldnt get up or move and said he was "amy"..she would laugh hard at his imitation.

StatsJunky · 03-15-2006, 02:38 PM

Do you ever feel inadequate with the constant help offerings or get angered that people wont leave you alone?

Or is it a non issue since you have been in a wheel chair for so long?

Sly · 03-15-2006, 02:40 PM

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Originally Posted by TheWylders

Great post ASM. I've been in a chair now for 28 years and one of the biggest obstacles I've come accross is people's ignorance. Obviously it's not there fault, as many able bodied people have never personally known a person in a chair so they're clueless and want to treat you as a 'cripple' which is annoying as hell. Knowledge empowers and I really dig this post!
The top questions always asked is
Does your dick get hard
Can you have sex
How do you use the bathroom
The funniest thing for me is going somewhere with my wife (who is a hottie) people always assume she is my sister, or my nurse. Now that I'm getting older looking and since she's 8 years younger than me and hasn't aged since we've been married I'm starting to get "is she your daughter". I think it's funny, cause everybody knows a guy in a wheelchair can't be taggin a hot piece of ass!

One thing I always find funny... if I'm out with some friends and will start talking to someone random, just small chit-chat. Eventually they'll ask if the person I'm out with is either my brother or my nurse. What? Can't I have friends too?! What makes it even more funny is the person I'm with will look absolutely nothing like me, not even close, and they'll still ask "are you brothers?"

And I've gotten the sister thing a few times too. "Is she your sister?" Next time I think I'll reply "nah just some hooker I found downtown last night."

Sly · 03-15-2006, 02:42 PM

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Originally Posted by StatsJunky

Do you ever feel inadequate with the constant help offerings or get angered that people wont leave you alone?

Or is it a non issue since you have been in a wheel chair for so long?

I've been asked this a few times. Help is easy to get. People are always pretty willing to help if need be. It does get annoying sometimes when people ask every 2 minutes if you need something. I have a big mouth, you'll know if I need something. :-)

After Shock Media · 03-15-2006, 02:43 PM

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Originally Posted by BabeHunter

ASM

i think it's great that you are answering questions.

do you remmber how big was your tumor, how long it took them to find it out it was the cause and after the surgery there was no connection at all in the spinal canal?

thanks

Yeah I remember. It was roughly the size of a softball surrounding my spinal cord.
I was in the hospital for two months close to three. They were about ready to just send me home to adjust and live with the fact that I had gillian berea syndrome.

It is sort of a complicated issue, since after about two weeks into my initial stay I was very curious and became a "problem" patient. I constantly fought with the physical therapists. I kept saying I was in too much pain to do anything, which I was. They insisted I was just making it up and being lazy. (lots more to this story by the way) I also started reading all the assorted medical literature in the hospital in regards to my illness. This is where the problems really started. I knew damn well that I did not have gillian berea syndrome and that it had to be something else. So the just made new resident doctor and I began to really butt heads. Did not help at all that I was only twelve of course. It was very hard because not only was the doctor against me but he had all my relatives on his side. He was a doctor after all and I was just a kid. This resulted in the doctor fighting with me for no other reason than ego and he cancelled assorted tests (opps!).

Well back to sending me home. They were ready to just send me home and let me be. Well my parents felt that I at least needed to go to a rehab hospital to better learn how to be in a wheelchair and live a normal life. As luck would have it my grandfather is very high up in the Shriners organization and with a quick call he had me into Shriners hospital within a few days.

After arriving at Shriners hospital and getting checked in and shown around a bit. Getting my lectures on how they did not want to butt heads with me or have me fight all the time and all that happy horseshit (got to love how medical charts follow you through life) they scheduled my therapy for each day. The following day I met with my physical therapist and they had me doing some stretching on a mat. Well it hurt like fucking hell and at one point the therapist told me to sit still and she began to feel my neck area. Told me that was it for the day and sent me back to my room. Latter that night they sent me off to UCSF for a test. I was scheduled for surgery the following day. Apparently the therapist was able to visibly see the lump on the back of my neck and I indeed had a tumor.

Shriners brought in a top neurosurgeon and had my tumor removed. Followed that with some radiation treatments and walla it was all over. Therapy could finally begin and there was no more pain. To bad the damage had already been done though, and if the original doctor had not cancelled some of those other tests or even looked me over better everything would of been a lot different.

After Shock Media · 03-15-2006, 02:50 PM

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Originally Posted by StatsJunky

Do you ever feel inadequate with the constant help offerings or get angered that people wont leave you alone?

Or is it a non issue since you have been in a wheel chair for so long?

Honestly I have never felt inadequate in my life. Sure I will occasionally get frustrated that there is something I am unable to do myself, but I think that is normal of everyone.
You would be surprised how little people actually do offer help in reality. One would think that it happens a lot but really it does not. People in general are a lot more apt to ignore or go out of their way not to pay attention to you than to offer up assistance. It is a wheelchair thing. I do however have my own theory on this of course. Yet a blind person, a person in a cast, and so forth will get a lot more offers of help than a person in a chair.

One thing that does annoy me is the religious people. That alone is a different story all together.

Sly · 03-15-2006, 02:52 PM

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Originally Posted by After Shock Media

You would be surprised how little people actually do offer help in reality. One would think that it happens a lot but really it does not. People in general are a lot more apt to ignore or go out of their way not to pay attention to you than to offer up assistance.

This is true. My comment above was referring more to family and friends, they can get annoying sometimes, haha.

After Shock Media · 03-15-2006, 02:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Sly

This is true. My comment above was referring more to family and friends, they can get annoying sometimes, haha.

Yeah family and friends are a little different. Thankfully most of my friends know when to ask and not ask if I need help. Typical rule with them is if it looks like I do ask. Yes you can push me, assuming you can actually stear without running me into everything. Yes you can grab something that is up high. Yes you can put your shit in my lap and use me as a shopping cart.

AcidMax · 03-15-2006, 03:15 PM

Great thread ASM/Sly. My father is handicapped (although not in a wheelchair). He has had polio since he was 6 and can walk but only with braces on his legs. He continues to do things like golf. While I don't talk to him due to other issues anymore, he was always one to make fun of himself as well. I remember us out golfing with a group of 14 or so other guys and we asked him his score on the last hole and he fell down the hill and was like "4.....4" as he was falling. So we called him 44 for a long time and he always laughed. I learned at a young age the handicapped are no different than anyone else, but I did always get pissed when I saw some 16 year old come runing out of a store into a car in a handicapped spot. Always a pet peeve of mine.

Anyhow on to my question.

Do you ever feel like you are a burden? I guess I would think that if this was me, I would feel like I wouldn't want to put my family / friends through taking care of me and helping me do certain things. Your thoughts and again great info.

-Andy

After Shock Media · 03-15-2006, 03:32 PM

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Originally Posted by AcidMax

Anyhow on to my question.

Do you ever feel like you are a burden? I guess I would think that if this was me, I would feel like I wouldn't want to put my family / friends through taking care of me and helping me do certain things. Your thoughts and again great info.

-Andy

I can not say I ever have felt like I was a burden on anyone in general. I was driving by age sixteen, was out of the house and living on my own by the age of eighteen. Have had more friends and such depend on me, live with me and so forth than I have ever depending on them. They needed places to stay, jobs and so forth. No one has really had to take care of me except when I am sick and that is just the normal taking care of a sick person that we all go through. I guess one could say I may have over compensated in life to ensure I was never a burden on anyone.

On the other side, if I know some people wish to do something or whatever that I know damn well I can not do, would not do, or generally would be useless attending I will just excuse myself from going. I may go to the lake with friends and just sit around while they swim (yes I can swim, I just usually do not) and that does not bother me. Though if they wish to maybe go up to some of the waterfalls and so forth I often will excuse myself from going. They would be more than happy to tug me along up the trails but alas I feel it would be more of a burden for them to do so and it rarely would interest me enough to go through with it typically. I know when and if I would actually enjoy doing something and that is the key. If I enjoy it and they know I do then nobody feels as if it is a burden at all.

CC · 03-15-2006, 04:22 PM

I don't have anything to add, I just want to thank you guys for such an informative thread

ASM, I've enjoyed your siggie for a long time so it's nice to know a little bit more about the STFU guy, lol.

Sly · 03-15-2006, 04:31 PM

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Originally Posted by AcidMax

Do you ever feel like you are a burden? I guess I would think that if this was me, I would feel like I wouldn't want to put my family / friends through taking care of me and helping me do certain things. Your thoughts and again great info.

-Andy

When I still lived at home, yeh. ASM can take care of himself, I can't. Now that I live by myself I have people who work for me, so of course I wouldn't feel like a burden because its their job. Sometimes with friends I still do yeh, but on the flip side they get to do a lot of extra things because of me that they otherwise would never be able to do, so it evens out to a point.

You want to curb away from situations where people will feel like they "have" to do something for you instead of "wanting" to do something for you.

Sarah_Jayne · 03-16-2006, 01:36 AM

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Originally Posted by After Shock Media

Yes you can put your shit in my lap and use me as a shopping cart.

lol...i do miss using my husband as a shopping cart a bit when we were shopping. Or better yet when were coming back and he would hook the bags onto his chair so I could push him and not also have to be carrying stuff.

Sarah_Jayne · 03-16-2006, 01:39 AM

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Originally Posted by AcidMax

I did always get pissed when I saw some 16 year old come runing out of a store into a car in a handicapped spot. Always a pet peeve of mine.

I am like a nazi on this even now. People parked in disabled spaces without a disabled badge (which you have to have in the UK to use those spaces) makes me so mad.

Hollywood376 · 03-21-2006, 07:45 PM

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Originally Posted by polish_aristocrat

but still honestly i know i could not get attracted to a woman in a wheelchair.

I would have thought the same thing until about 8 months ago. I met a girl in a wheelchair. Not only is she very cute, she is really "my type" with regard to her personality. I hit on her every time I see her. So far, nothing's workin'.

Halcyon · 03-22-2006, 03:30 PM

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Originally Posted by After Shock Media

Muhahaha

Could I beatdown an able bodies person in a fight and win? Honestly yes but not everyone. Lets just say if you do fight me make damn sure I do not get a grip on you at any point and pull you to the ground. Regardless though if a fight takes place between an able bodied person and a person in a wheelchair the dissabled person already has won before a single blow has taken place. It is a lose lose situation for the abled bodied person.
Lets say you beat the fuck out of me, well whoopie doo you beat up a person in a wheelchair, lets hope nobody saw it or there may be a group beating on you. Then on the flip side, you get in a fight with a person in a wheelchair and they beat you, well shit you just got your ass kicked by a gimp. I sure in hell hope nobody saw that either.

I do not think there is a UFC for people in wheelchairs, though may I suggest you watch some indoor basketball. I think Bravo or the learning chanel has a special on this month called murder ball, check it out.

The chair may not attract the chicks but it puts them at ease. Now the story on the other hand well

Yes and yes.

Fuck no, push me around. I get tired all the time and I am not gunna turn down a free ride.

I prefer manual for day to day life and motorized when traveling or in hotels etc.

I was gonna ask what you thought of the film "murderball." I loved it and found it inspiring....but I would guess your perspective might be different. What did you think?

btw, this thread is awesome. The nuggests of wisdom hidden inbetween penis questions are golden.

georgeyw · 03-22-2006, 03:56 PM

ASM and Sly - this was a great read - kudos for being so honest and answering all questions.

I really hope you take full advantage of your disability where possible

A good mate of mine is deaf and going out anywhere with him is absolutely hilarious! He can lip read and talk BUT in public he sometimes switches off to get his own way ie when he's haggling price on anything - really opens up your eyes as to what people will do to get out of a situation they can't deal with.
Whenever I want a really good price on something I send him in - it's almost worth paying him to haggle.

After Shock Media · 03-22-2006, 03:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Halcyon

I was gonna ask what you thought of the film "murderball." I loved it and found it inspiring....but I would guess your perspective might be different. What did you think?

btw, this thread is awesome. The nuggests of wisdom hidden inbetween penis questions are golden.

I am glad someone gets the nuggets

To me murderball was about type A jocks who are now in wheelchairs. It was inspirational in its own ways. It also showed how some may over compensate or even make the able bodied feel disabled around them. Does that even make sense?

I have tried assorted sports but was never super into them. They are brutal and "we" seem to have zero sympathy for each other. My last sport attempt was water skiing and I will tell every one know that I will fucking never ever do that again. For those that are not to familiar with a handicapped water ski. It is a device the marque de sade would of been proud to call his own. It is effectively a snowboard type device with a rudder, on top of this is a metal chair or sorts that you loop your feet into to secure yourself to the ski. Sounds simple enough of course.
Now you must somehow keep the tip of the board well above the water line when the boat takes off. Not an easy task to say the least since the whole board and your life jacket is buoyant. If you do not you will end up doing what happened to me. The boat takes off, my ski temporarily dipped into a wave about by two inches and well I was on a one way trip to the bottom of the damn lake at an incredible speed. Same principle that keeps you on top of the water makes you a great diving submarine.

Assuming you ever do get to where you are on top of the water and doing what you are set out to do, ski. For the love of all things sacred do not and I repeat do not crash. It is one thing to crash when you are doing this able bodied style, now try to imagine you are in a near fetal position and very attached to a board when you crash. I think it would be the same feeling one would get if you were in a kayak sitting side ways on the side of a steep hill and someone pulled you down the face of it.

Sly · 03-22-2006, 04:29 PM

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Originally Posted by georgeyw

ASM and Sly - this was a great read - kudos for being so honest and answering all questions.

I really hope you take full advantage of your disability where possible

A good mate of mine is deaf and going out anywhere with him is absolutely hilarious! He can lip read and talk BUT in public he sometimes switches off to get his own way ie when he's haggling price on anything - really opens up your eyes as to what people will do to get out of a situation they can't deal with.
Whenever I want a really good price on something I send him in - it's almost worth paying him to haggle.

No, I do my best not to do that. I can't hope and expect people to treat me "normal" and then turn around only to give them more reason to think I'm "stupid".

Lord Nelson · 03-22-2006, 04:37 PM

holy shit, if i was paralyzed like that with no hope for normal sex i'd off myself.
seriously, there would be no point in living.

i'm sorry about your situation.

After Shock Media · 03-22-2006, 04:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Lord Nelson

holy shit, if i was paralyzed like that with no hope for normal sex i'd off myself.
seriously, there would be no point in living.

i'm sorry about your situation.

I'm more sorry about yours.

If you feel life is devoid of enough meaning, experiences, joy, passion, and such great wonders that can more than transcend any possible sexual experience you must lead a very sad existence.

After Shock Media · 03-22-2006, 04:49 PM

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Originally Posted by georgeyw

ASM and Sly - this was a great read - kudos for being so honest and answering all questions.

I really hope you take full advantage of your disability where possible

A good mate of mine is deaf and going out anywhere with him is absolutely hilarious! He can lip read and talk BUT in public he sometimes switches off to get his own way ie when he's haggling price on anything - really opens up your eyes as to what people will do to get out of a situation they can't deal with.
Whenever I want a really good price on something I send him in - it's almost worth paying him to haggle.

The way I take full advantage of my disability is to not be disabled by it.

Lord Nelson · 03-22-2006, 05:02 PM

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Originally Posted by After Shock Media

I'm more sorry about yours.

If you feel life is devoid of enough meaning, experiences, joy, passion, and such great wonders that can more than transcend any possible sexual experience you must lead a very sad existence.

I understand that you are trying to stay positive, but for most men the highlight of life is to fuck as many hot women as possible. Everything else - money, power, etc. - is just needed to support that goal.

After Shock Media · 03-22-2006, 05:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Lord Nelson

I understand that you are trying to stay positive, but for most men the highlight of life is to fuck as many hot women as possible. Everything else - money, power, etc. - is just needed to support that goal.

I have no need to try to stay positive. One day you may understand.
I have had sex and I have fucked women. Sure it felt great and was fun, but in the scheme of things it is highly overrated. I suggest you do yourself a favor and talk to some old or dieing people and ask them what they enjoyed most about life. I assure you banging hot chicks will not be on that list.

Peaches · 03-22-2006, 05:10 PM

Am I bad because I laughed at the water skiing story? ;) Great thread, guys!!

After Shock Media · 03-22-2006, 05:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Peaches

Am I bad because I laughed at the water skiing story? ;) Great thread, guys!!

Nah in retrospect it was damn humorous after I eventually bobbed to the surface.

Sly · 03-22-2006, 05:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Peaches

Am I bad because I laughed at the water skiing story? ;) Great thread, guys!!

I was laughing my ass off and think he's either an idiot or he's just plain crazy for strapping himself to a chair on water. Sounds like a great way to drown!

Lord Nelson · 03-22-2006, 05:17 PM

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Originally Posted by After Shock Media

I have no need to try to stay positive. One day you may understand.
I have had sex and I have fucked women. Sure it felt great and was fun, but in the scheme of things it is highly overrated. I suggest you do yourself a favor and talk to some old or dieing people and ask them what they enjoyed most about life. I assure you banging hot chicks will not be on that list.

I dont know what else is there in life.

Basically, life sucks. There is nothing good about it. Its an everyday struggle agains whatever shit life throws at you.

Any emotions you feel - even love - inevitably lead to suffering.

So tell me, what else is there to enjoy about life?

Sly · 03-22-2006, 05:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Lord Nelson

I dont know what there else there is in life.

Basically, life sucks. There is nothing good about it. Its an everyday struggle agains whatever shit life throws at you.

Any emotions you feel - even love - inevitably lead to suffering.

So tell me, what else is there to enjoy about life?

What's your address? I'll send you a package of razor blades and appropriate instructions, no charge.

After Shock Media · 03-22-2006, 05:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Sly

I was laughing my ass off and think he's either an idiot or he's just plain crazy for strapping himself to a chair on water. Sounds like a great way to drown!

Shh! I was in one of those I can do it modes that over rides all common sense. Plus there was this girl and well that is another story.

Did I mention that the same damn instructor tried to get me to try snow skiing as well. If americas funniest home videos was on the air at that time in my life I would of sworn this dude was trying to retire off of me. Or he had some bent up personal issues to rid the world of me. Not to sure.

After Shock Media · 03-22-2006, 05:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Lord Nelson

I dont know what else is there in life.

Basically, life sucks. There is nothing good about it. Its an everyday struggle agains whatever shit life throws at you.

Any emotions you feel - even love - inevitably lead to suffering.

So tell me, what else is there to enjoy about life?

If I have to tell you what there is to enjoy in life then im afraid you may already be dead and just do not know it yet.
You have so much yet see so little, I do feel bad for you.

Lord Nelson · 03-22-2006, 05:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Sly

What's your address? I'll send you a package of razor blades and appropriate instructions, no charge.

yeah okay, keep lying to yourself about how great life is.
some day it will hit you. like a ton of bricks.

Lord Nelson · 03-22-2006, 05:27 PM

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Originally Posted by After Shock Media

If I have to tell you what there is to enjoy in life then im afraid you may already be dead and just do not know it yet.

Translation: You cant put your finger on it.

Sly · 03-22-2006, 05:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Lord Nelson

yeah okay, keep lying to yourself about how great life is.
someone day it will hit you. like a ton of bricks.

No, you're right. Life sucks. Let's kill ourselves now. Should we do it together?

Theo · 03-22-2006, 05:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Lord Nelson

I dont know what else is there in life.

Basically, life sucks. There is nothing good about it. Its an everyday struggle agains whatever shit life throws at you.

Any emotions you feel - even love - inevitably lead to suffering.

So tell me, what else is there to enjoy about life?

blast yourself

Theo · 03-22-2006, 05:56 PM

After Shock Media, ever rode a Ferrari wheelchair?

After Shock Media · 03-22-2006, 05:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Lord Nelson

Translation: You cant put your finger on it.

No, I just do not have the time nor inclination to make such a long post about what there is to life that is worth enjoying. I know fairly quickly when someone does not or will not grasp something and this is a prime example.

After Shock Media · 03-22-2006, 05:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Soul_Rebel

After Shock Media, ever rode a Ferrari wheelchair?

Do they even make one?

Drake · 03-22-2006, 06:03 PM

Cool thread

Theo · 03-22-2006, 06:04 PM

I think they made one for Pope couple years ago hehe

btw,i wanted to ask you something serious, I'll mail you tomorrow

After Shock Media · 03-22-2006, 06:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Soul_Rebel

I think they made one for Pope couple years ago hehe

btw,i wanted to ask you something serious, I'll mail you tomorrow

I will look for the email.

Halcyon · 03-22-2006, 06:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Lord Nelson

I understand that you are trying to stay positive, but for most men the highlight of life is to fuck as many hot women as possible. Everything else - money, power, etc. - is just needed to support that goal.

LOL!

You just listed the very reason why most men die filled with regret. But keep on Fuckin'!

bjs24 · 03-22-2006, 06:30 PM

Did either of you guys ever ride in the wheelchair adapted limo they had in vegas? It had a pod like thing on the top and a ramp that came out the side where the door is. You just drove up the ramp and sat in there like you would in a van.

It was pretty cool but I think the company went out of business.

After Shock Media · 03-22-2006, 06:37 PM

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Originally Posted by bjs24

Did either of you guys ever ride in the wheelchair adapted limo they had in vegas? It had a pod like thing on the top and a ramp that came out the side where the door is. You just drove up the ramp and sat in there like you would in a van.

It was pretty cool but I think the company went out of business.

Nope can not say that I did. I always had to be tossed into the crazy mini van cabs. Makes wanting to venture out while there not to fun. Typically why I rent a mini van and just have it stay at the hotel. Only issue then of course is parking.

After Shock Media · 03-22-2006, 06:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Halcyon

LOL!

You just listed the very reason why most men die filled with regret. But keep on Fuckin'!

You and Tassy are some of the people I know from here that actually do get life and see what it is all about.

After Shock Media · 05-29-2007, 10:28 AM

I felt this could use a bump after more than a year and so many new people.

mfps · 05-29-2007, 12:29 PM

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I tried that before and it always ended up with expensive legal bills and getting charged, stupid consent laws.

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I have my own way of dealing with certain people. One just master the ability to totally tard out. That alone is super priceless.
Nothing like hearing someone at like Costco make a stupid comment and then following them through the store making wierd arm and face gestures and yelling out items they pick up. "Toilet paper, yea!" and clapping.

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Those are the type of people that get my super special tard treatment. Want to see someone treat you a whole lot different at customer service. Tard out on them real loud. " Oh no! No! he touched my winkie! no, not good, 911 911"

priceless

The Duck · 05-29-2007, 12:34 PM

Some questions that I have always pondered are answered in this thread, thanks for putting yourself out there ASM.

fallenmuffin · 05-29-2007, 12:44 PM

For all those webmasters who've taken the time to read through this thread, check my sig and make a difference.

Sarah_Jayne · 05-29-2007, 01:44 PM

I just read this entire thread for the second time and still found it just as interesting the second time around.

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StatsJunky Confirmed User Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Checking My Stats Posts: 639	Do you ever feel inadequate with the constant help offerings or get angered that people wont leave you alone? Or is it a non issue since you have been in a wheel chair for so long? __________________ erik AT suthnet.com Last edited by StatsJunky; 03-15-2006 at 02:40 PM..

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AcidMax Confirmed User Join Date: May 2002 Location: MI Posts: 1,827	Great thread ASM/Sly. My father is handicapped (although not in a wheelchair). He has had polio since he was 6 and can walk but only with braces on his legs. He continues to do things like golf. While I don't talk to him due to other issues anymore, he was always one to make fun of himself as well. I remember us out golfing with a group of 14 or so other guys and we asked him his score on the last hole and he fell down the hill and was like "4.....4" as he was falling. So we called him 44 for a long time and he always laughed. I learned at a young age the handicapped are no different than anyone else, but I did always get pissed when I saw some 16 year old come runing out of a store into a car in a handicapped spot. Always a pet peeve of mine. Anyhow on to my question. Do you ever feel like you are a burden? I guess I would think that if this was me, I would feel like I wouldn't want to put my family / friends through taking care of me and helping me do certain things. Your thoughts and again great info. -Andy __________________ Latest MMA news. http://www.mmawrapup.com

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georgeyw 58008 53773 Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Australia Posts: 9,864	ASM and Sly - this was a great read - kudos for being so honest and answering all questions. I really hope you take full advantage of your disability where possible A good mate of mine is deaf and going out anywhere with him is absolutely hilarious! He can lip read and talk BUT in public he sometimes switches off to get his own way ie when he's haggling price on anything - really opens up your eyes as to what people will do to get out of a situation they can't deal with. Whenever I want a really good price on something I send him in - it's almost worth paying him to haggle. __________________ TripleXPrint on Megan Fox "I would STILL suck her pussy until her face caved in. And then blow her up and do it again!"

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After Shock Media It's coming look busy Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: "Ph'nglui mglw'nafh Cthulhu R'lyeh wgah'nagl fhtagn". Posts: 35,299	I felt this could use a bump after more than a year and so many new people. __________________ [email protected] ICQ:135982156 AIM: Aftershockmed1a MSN: [email protected]

05-29-2007, 12:34 PM	#148
The Duck Adult Content Provider Industry Role: Join Date: May 2005 Location: Europe Posts: 18,243	Some questions that I have always pondered are answered in this thread, thanks for putting yourself out there ASM. __________________ Skype Horusmaia ICQ 41555245 Email [email protected]

03-15-2006, 02:32 PM	#101
C_U_Next_Tuesday WW4L Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: over the river and through the woods Posts: 10,581	I lived with my g/f for a few years.. one before she had the accident and 3 after she became paralyzed. It was really hard watching her go through hell, but damn she was strong and really kicked ass at getting her life back together. I was amazed at how easy it was for her to get sick and learned a whole lot on caring for a triapalegic. I will never forget when my then 2 year old would lay in the bed beside her and pretend he couldnt get up or move and said he was "amy"..she would laugh hard at his imitation.

03-15-2006, 04:22 PM	#111
CC Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2001 Posts: 1,690	I don't have anything to add, I just want to thank you guys for such an informative thread ASM, I've enjoyed your siggie for a long time so it's nice to know a little bit more about the STFU guy, lol.

03-22-2006, 04:37 PM	#120
Lord Nelson So Fucking Banned Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 715	holy shit, if i was paralyzed like that with no hope for normal sex i'd off myself. seriously, there would be no point in living. i'm sorry about your situation.

03-22-2006, 05:10 PM	#125
Peaches Old broad Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Away Posts: 13,933	Am I bad because I laughed at the water skiing story? ;) Great thread, guys!!

03-22-2006, 05:56 PM	#136
Theo HAL 9000 Industry Role: Join Date: May 2001 Posts: 34,515	After Shock Media, ever rode a Ferrari wheelchair?

03-22-2006, 06:03 PM	#139
Drake Hello world! Industry Role: Join Date: Mar 2003 Posts: 12,508	Cool thread

03-22-2006, 06:04 PM	#140
Theo HAL 9000 Industry Role: Join Date: May 2001 Posts: 34,515	I think they made one for Pope couple years ago hehe btw,i wanted to ask you something serious, I'll mail you tomorrow

03-22-2006, 06:30 PM	#143
bjs24 Confirmed User Join Date: May 2003 Location: I Moderate You Posts: 313	Did either of you guys ever ride in the wheelchair adapted limo they had in vegas? It had a pod like thing on the top and a ramp that came out the side where the door is. You just drove up the ramp and sat in there like you would in a van. It was pretty cool but I think the company went out of business.

05-29-2007, 12:44 PM	#149
fallenmuffin Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Nov 2005 Posts: 8,170	For all those webmasters who've taken the time to read through this thread, check my sig and make a difference.

05-29-2007, 01:44 PM	#150
Sarah_Jayne Now with more Jayne Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 40,077	I just read this entire thread for the second time and still found it just as interesting the second time around.