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Old 04-09-2006, 02:52 AM   #1
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if i would open a "non smoking" bar/club/restaurant in your town

would you go there ?


i hate it when i prepare for going out: taking a shower, putting deodorant and parfume on and when i enter a club/bar etc. i will stink like an ashtray after 5minutes.





i don't have anything against smokers as long as they don't get me in touch with their smoke
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Old 04-09-2006, 02:53 AM   #2
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i hate it when i prepare for going out: taking a shower, putting deodorant and parfume on and when i enter a club/bar etc. i will stink like an ashtray after 5minutes.
you forgot hair gel ;)
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Old 04-09-2006, 02:53 AM   #3
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Many states already ban smoking in bars, clubs & restaurants. I agree with restaurants & clubs but it sucks for bars, its fun to have a beer and a cigar while shooting pool.
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they've already banned smoking in clubs, pubs etc.. in scotland!
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Old 04-09-2006, 02:54 AM   #6
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yep, I hate that shit as well...
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Old 04-09-2006, 02:56 AM   #7
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Many states already ban smoking in bars, clubs & restaurants. I agree with restaurants & clubs but it sucks for bars, its fun to have a beer and a cigar while shooting pool.

maybe its fun for you.

but i want to drink a beer and shoot pool without inahling your smoke...


maybe there should be bars and clubs for smokers and for non smokers...
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Old 04-09-2006, 02:57 AM   #8
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Smoking indoors has been banned here for several years now.
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they could not do it in germany...
because the state would collapse if less people smoke...

the only thing keeping germany alive is the taxes from cars and drugs this time...
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Old 04-09-2006, 02:58 AM   #9
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Yup down here smoking is banned in all pubs/clubs/restaurants which serve food. It's also banned in all gamming rooms. And new legislation coming in over this/next year will ban it in all nightclubs.

Nothing against smokers, just your 2nd smoke effects my non-smoking health in those environments.

Edited to add the only place it's sorta accepted is in pubs, kinda an aussie thing I guess.

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Old 04-09-2006, 03:12 AM   #10
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nah, i dont smoke but there is a better attitude there
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You want to kill yourself, do it in the privacy of your home. Smoking should be illegal everywhere else, including outside in public. I don't EVER want to breathe it.
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I live i california - all public places are non smoking.
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You want to kill yourself, do it in the privacy of your home. Smoking should be illegal everywhere else, including outside in public. I don't EVER want to breathe it.
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If you are worried about 2nd hand smoke killing you then you need to quit breathing air, damn sure don't drive in traffic anymore.

I agree with the smell while eating, even at a club where people are dancing. But a bar with good venting can have a room full of smokers and it won't fill the bar with smoke.

What is worse? That I smoked my stinky cigar at the bar, or that you got in your car and drove home?
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I would never go to a non-smoking place. People that go to non-smoking
places only are frustrated annoying whining numbnut idiots. I'm all in favour
for non-smoking places so they stay away from places where they do allow
people to smoke.

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Old 04-09-2006, 04:01 AM   #16
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You want to kill yourself, do it in the privacy of your home. Smoking should be illegal everywhere else, including outside in public. I don't EVER want to breathe it.
Prime example.....thanks for proving my point
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If you are worried about 2nd hand smoke killing you then you need to quit breathing air, damn sure don't drive in traffic anymore.

I agree with the smell while eating, even at a club where people are dancing. But a bar with good venting can have a room full of smokers and it won't fill the bar with smoke.

What is worse? That I smoked my stinky cigar at the bar, or that you got in your car and drove home?
Bingo! People whine about smoking, but don't care about all the stuff that is like
factor 10 times worse than passive smoking......non smokers just can't stand
the fact that smokers are enjoying themselfes.....envious little whiney pricks
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Bingo! People whine about smoking, but don't care about all the stuff that is like
factor 10 times worse than passive smoking......non smokers just can't stand
the fact that smokers are enjoying themselfes.....envious little whiney pricks

no

you could smoke if it wouldn't stink that much and if i wouldnt get in danger
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Every bar and restaurant where I live already is. You'd be joining a fairly large club.
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maybe there should be bars and clubs for smokers and for non smokers...
of course there should. but our allegedly free-enterprise system won't allow it, it doesn't fit the politically-correct agenda.

and BTW, all of the "second hand smoke" people should do their research, a number of reputable studies (including one by the World Health Organization) have concluded that the second hand smoke "health danger" is a red herring. but the establishment has gotten together to cover up those studies and prevent the wide-spread release of the findings, again for political reasons.

there's no doubt many people don't *like* second hand smoke, and that a *few" are allergic to it. that's why there should be smoking and non-smoking establishments allowed. everyone (INCLUDING smokers) should have the freedom to be in places where they're comfortable and can enjoy themselves.

smoking is bad for you and not a smart thing to do.
but sorry to burst your bubble, second hand smoke isn't killing you by proxy.
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Here, they will ban smoking the month in all clubs, I can't wait.
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would you go there ?


i hate it when i prepare for going out: taking a shower, putting deodorant and parfume on and when i enter a club/bar etc. i will stink like an ashtray after 5minutes.





i don't have anything against smokers as long as they don't get me in touch with their smoke
In sweden it isnt allowed to smoke inside anymore, unless its your own home.
You arent allowed to smoke on bar´s, clubs, restaurants.... anymore!

Some say its good, others say it sucks. I kinda like it, even though i smoke from time to time.
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I love non-smoking places. I hate outlawing it though. Freedom is good.
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of course there should. but our allegedly free-enterprise system won't allow it, it doesn't fit the politically-correct agenda.

and BTW, all of the "second hand smoke" people should do their research, a number of reputable studies (including one by the World Health Organization) have concluded that the second hand smoke "health danger" is a red herring. but the establishment has gotten together to cover up those studies and prevent the wide-spread release of the findings, again for political reasons.

there's no doubt many people don't *like* second hand smoke, and that a *few" are allergic to it. that's why there should be smoking and non-smoking establishments allowed. everyone (INCLUDING smokers) should have the freedom to be in places where they're comfortable and can enjoy themselves.

smoking is bad for you and not a smart thing to do.
but sorry to burst your bubble, second hand smoke isn't killing you by proxy.

Why, anything you say captain impartiality! Yes, because of your post I now know that when my eyes sting because theres that much second hand smoke in the air while I'm watch a band at the pub that really it's like breathing antibiotics and antioxidants! yay.. thanks now i'll never worry again because it's not burning my eyes and magically leaving my lungs pinky clean - It's actually the sting of the smoke healing my cataracts!
I'll forward your post to the non smoker bar workers with lungcancer to tell them their illness is a red herring and they aren't dying by proxy..
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If you are worried about 2nd hand smoke killing you then you need to quit breathing air, damn sure don't drive in traffic anymore.

I agree with the smell while eating, even at a club where people are dancing. But a bar with good venting can have a room full of smokers and it won't fill the bar with smoke.

What is worse? That I smoked my stinky cigar at the bar, or that you got in your car and drove home?
The main problem is liability for establishments that allow smoking. There have already been cases of non-smoking waitresses getting lung cancer. Just imagine the law suits. It is a legal time bomb waiting to go off.
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Scotland has just had a new bill passed which means no smoking in all enclosed public places, that inclues, pubs, clubs, shops, cafes, resturants..everything enclosed. You can go outside and smoke thats fine.

Personally I dont mind either way, as long as the smoke is kepy out of my way, its up to a smoke if they want to puff on a cancer stick.

As for inhaling second hand smoke, yeah there is down sides but look at it this way..Your more likely to die crossing the road. There is no hard shit evidence that second hand smoking causes lung cancer, it may help towards it but that alone cant give you it.

Its pollutants, car fumes and household waste items that are killing us, not sencond hand smoke from the poor lonely old guy sitting behind us in the pub. If my grandad were to stop smoking it would kill him, his doc told him not to even try...

I dont like smoking, although I did smoke I just find all this smoking will kill everyone nonsense a bit over the top..Its like saying omg a bird flew over me I have bird flu...
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if you opened a non smoking bar/restaraunt in my town?

i would stab you in the fucking eye with my cig.


i am tired of being treated like a second class fucking citizen because of my choice. honestly, if a place does not provide somewhere for me to smoke, i do not go there. it's dick, elitest, and i am pretty sure it is illegal in one way or another.

maybe you and that fat cry baby faggot rob reiner should get together and weep about second hand smoke and fondle each others balls.
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if you opened a non smoking bar/restaraunt in my town?

i would stab you in the fucking eye with my cig.


i am tired of being treated like a second class fucking citizen because of my choice. honestly, if a place does not provide somewhere for me to smoke, i do not go there. it's dick, elitest, and i am pretty sure it is illegal in one way or another.

maybe you and that fat cry baby faggot rob reiner should get together and weep about second hand smoke and fondle each others balls.

you sir are an idiot






you are born as a nonsmoker.


and if i choose not to kill myself with lungcancer and i refuse to stink like an ashtray YOU GOTTA ACCEPT IT.

you are the one doing something to damage my lungs,
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When I first moved to my current location 13 years ago I went to a restaurant and I ask the hosted where the non-smoking section was. She look at me as if I was from mars, then said "Just sit somewhere where there isn't an ashtray. We really don't have non-smoking sections here." And she was right no place around here had sperated smoking/non-smoking areas. The local Pizza Hut is 100% non-smoking and I think that's about it. They say smokers make up about 25% of the popualtion. Where I live it's about 80%. No joke.
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you are born as a nonsmoker.


and if i choose not to kill myself with lungcancer and i refuse to stink like an ashtray YOU GOTTA ACCEPT IT.

you are the one doing something to damage my lungs,
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Bingo! People whine about smoking, but don't care about all the stuff that is like
factor 10 times worse than passive smoking......non smokers just can't stand
the fact that smokers are enjoying themselfes.....envious little whiney pricks
no need to be so over the top. i have no problem with people who smoke but i can't stand to be in places filled with smoke, makes me feel sick after a bit.
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At least in FL and CA it has been banned, but (and I'm not a smoker, and I hate to smell like cigarettes) I think they should have open option places, like bars and clubs for smokers. In a country that is always bragging about civil liberties, that should be one of them!
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would you go there ?
Nope. Why would a individual who smokes or has friends who smoke wish to pay for eating/drinking in premises where they are restricted from smoking?

The flip side is - no way would I puff smoke over others while they were eating and sure has hell don't want them covering me in smoke.

Both smoking and non-smoking areas are fine.
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At least in FL and CA it has been banned, but (and I'm not a smoker, and I hate to smell like cigarettes) I think they should have open option places, like bars and clubs for smokers. In a country that is always bragging about civil liberties, that should be one of them!
Hate the smell of cigarettes as well czarina, tho smoke cigars which may be worse for some folks.
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They opened a non smoking restaurant down the street from me.Lasted about 2 months now its a pizza place.Don't know if the non smoking thing had anything to do with it
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What I dislike is the fact that some of us that live in a supposedly free and capitalistic country do not have the other option. You and everyone else has the option of opening a smoke free bar, club, restaurant, yet many of us do not have the other option. We can not choose to open a smoking bar, club, or restaurant if we desired to cater to smokers.

Of course we know in a true capitalistic environment it would take care of itself and business owners would do what is best for their bottom line. They would compete and if there were enough non smokers or smokers each would end up getting their own places to cater to them. Of course though we can not have that due to it making to much sense and that everyone feels the need to push their own personal beliefs on others. Of course only as long as you happen to be in the right group.
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Old 04-09-2006, 01:02 PM   #43
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Any day now, indoor smoking is gonna be banned in Montreal

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I personally don't care living in Vegas I smell like smoke all the time by the end of the night but so do the girls!

But smokers look at it like this... would you like it if you went out to have a good time but someone had a boombox and was blasting music you hated and but you couldnt legally do shit about it?
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But smokers look at it like this... would you like it if you went out to have a good time but someone had a boombox and was blasting music you hated and but you couldnt legally do shit about it?
Happens all of the time. I also get to listen to annoying ass people while I am trying to eat talking on cell phones or their damn ring tones going off every few minutes. I also get the pleasure of having babies crying or kids running amok at places as well. Come to think of it since I do not drink either they really should ban that as well. I do not desire to go out and have a good time only to be surrounded by people getting drunk, these same people who are not only annoying, rude, and sometimes mean. But people who vary well are impaired and could kill me on the way home since the place I was at allowed them to load up.
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What I dislike is the fact that some of us that live in a supposedly free and capitalistic country do not have the other option. You and everyone else has the option of opening a smoke free bar, club, restaurant, yet many of us do not have the other option. We can not choose to open a smoking bar, club, or restaurant if we desired to cater to smokers.

Of course we know in a true capitalistic environment it would take care of itself and business owners would do what is best for their bottom line. They would compete and if there were enough non smokers or smokers each would end up getting their own places to cater to them. Of course though we can not have that due to it making to much sense and that everyone feels the need to push their own personal beliefs on others. Of course only as long as you happen to be in the right group.
Amen to that
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A new rule came into place 2 weeks ago in Scotland. Its now illegal to smoke in any public places. Bars clubs restaraunt you name it its illegal. If you wanna smoke, you need to go outside.
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you are born as a nonsmoker.
Wrong... how do you know the moms haven't been smoking, drinking doing drugs and sharing it with their babies?
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Wrong... how do you know the moms haven't been smoking, drinking doing drugs and sharing it with their babies?

omg

i don't want to discuss such stupid things right now.


but i never heard of adam and eve being thrown out of paradise because they smoked
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omg

i don't want to discuss such stupid things right now.


but i never heard of adam and eve being thrown out of paradise because they smoked
No that would because they ate some HEALTHY fruit.
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