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Old 06-26-2006, 12:37 AM   #1
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Question about RSS feeds

Hey, I don't want to sound stupid here, but what (exactly) is the advantage of offering a webmaster RSS feeds? I know a little about them.

If someone can dumb it down for me and tell me why they should work...I will have them in OCCash within 2 weeks.
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Old 06-26-2006, 12:59 AM   #2
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well???????????????
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Old 06-26-2006, 01:00 AM   #3
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Old 06-26-2006, 01:00 AM   #4
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What do you get? Traffic... Not sure how well it does compared to TGP's...

Of course the people using them are all not thinking about the big picture. Without using some kind of Markov script to rewrite them, you are just gonna get dinged for duplicate content and get no SE traffic...
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Old 06-26-2006, 01:02 AM   #5
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Interested in more details as well. Bump.
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Old 06-26-2006, 01:05 AM   #7
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the main advantage is better parsing.
XML is pretty much standard this days and there are a bunch of tools to move
content around.
Its much easier to write scripts according to standards than make shittier parsers for each site to fetch content.
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Old 06-26-2006, 02:04 AM   #8
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What do you get? Traffic... Not sure how well it does compared to TGP's...

Of course the people using them are all not thinking about the big picture. Without using some kind of Markov script to rewrite them, you are just gonna get dinged for duplicate content and get no SE traffic...
Yeah, I could see the duplicate content thing being a problem from the start. Though, I guess the advantage would be that you can have your blog updated with way less effort, but on the other hand...you'd have the same content / blogs on every other blog if you are running a large rss.

What would you guys want as affilaites to have you adding occash blogs into your blog.

Prewritten blogs with your refferer code? Hotlinked images / movies?

Help me out here...I am trying to come up with some ideas that would be useful to you.
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Old 06-26-2006, 02:40 AM   #9
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Feeds aren't just used for blog entries, though this is what most affiliates use them for because you can use wordpress and a basic parser to get an automatically updated site going.

See this thread for a much more innovative use of RSS technology:

http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showthread.php?t=626095

In a nutshell, we can use a feed to syndicate which webcams.com models are online and associated info for each model so that affiliates can parse the info to have a completely dynamically updated webcam front end.
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Old 06-26-2006, 04:16 AM   #10
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Feeds aren't just used for blog entries, though this is what most affiliates use them for because you can use wordpress and a basic parser to get an automatically updated site going.

See this thread for a much more innovative use of RSS technology:

http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showthread.php?t=626095

In a nutshell, we can use a feed to syndicate which webcams.com models are online and associated info for each model so that affiliates can parse the info to have a completely dynamically updated webcam front end.
Cool.

I think I just got threadjacked.
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Old 06-26-2006, 04:19 AM   #11
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Yes, you did.

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Cool.

I think I just got threadjacked.
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Old 06-26-2006, 05:50 AM   #12
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What would you guys want as affilaites to have you adding occash blogs into your blog.

Prewritten blogs with your refferer code? Hotlinked images / movies?

Help me out here...I am trying to come up with some ideas that would be useful to you.
There have been plenty of detailed RSS posts made by Stickyfingerz & Splum about what would be most desireable to them, perhaps they can bump there old threads for you.
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Old 06-26-2006, 11:00 AM   #13
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hi jay you weren't thread jacked, I was just illustrating what you could do with RSS feeds if you're a little creative
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Old 06-26-2006, 11:05 AM   #14
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i dont use any rss feeds, because i dont want the same content as like 100 other blogs out there, all my posts are original, style of my own. but if people are going to use them for your affil program all the better, this is just a personal preference of mine
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Old 06-26-2006, 01:24 PM   #15
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i dont use any rss feeds, because i dont want the same content as like 100 other blogs out there, all my posts are original, style of my own. but if people are going to use them for your affil program all the better, this is just a personal preference of mine
Yeah, I write mine as well. Anyone can rss my blogif they want to lol
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Old 06-26-2006, 01:26 PM   #16
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am I on your ignore or something?

I asnwered your question in major detail in that other thread

I have also responded to you on mutliple occasions with other topics and you never seem to reply and basically ignore my response
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Old 06-26-2006, 01:29 PM   #18
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my response from that other thread

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an rss feed is a easy stream of content for those people running blogs and anything that can translate an rss file

I can take a rss feed and input it into my blog and tell the script to update once a day from your rss feed, and once a day my script will go in and grab one entry from your rss feed and post it to my blog, and that post (hopefully) will look like I wrote the post and it will be an easy way for me to gain more posts without actually having to write anything

It will work for you because of the amount of people using blogs and autoblogger pro/rss2blog these days, both autoblogger pro and rss2blog are awesome tools that allow a webmaster to basically run a blog without ever having to update it

Please PLEASE PLEASE, do not just think you can look at others rss feeds and think you can just copy what they are doing and think people will be all right with it...so many sponsors thought they could just jump in and create something simple and people would instantly use it....and it turns out that blog users need very specific things...check this out for a nice start

http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showth...&highlight=rss

if you really wanna take it to the next level, like I know you like to, give all of us affiliates the option of making a fully customized rss feed. I want to be able to control all aspects of the rss feed and output something that is completely customized for MY site....images, text, title, etc...all customized to what I want.

If you need anything else Jay, please feel free to hit me up, i would love to work with you and guide you to what would be the perfect rss feed
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Yeah, I could see the duplicate content thing being a problem from the start. Though, I guess the advantage would be that you can have your blog updated with way less effort, but on the other hand...you'd have the same content / blogs on every other blog if you are running a large rss.

What would you guys want as affilaites to have you adding occash blogs into your blog.

Prewritten blogs with your refferer code? Hotlinked images / movies?

Help me out here...I am trying to come up with some ideas that would be useful to you.
there are also screipts out there that will re-write a rss entry

so, even though you provide me with a feed, my script will re-write what you have and make it original...rss2bloog and autoblogger pro both do this
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am I on your ignore or something?

I asnwered your question in major detail in that other thread

I have also responded to you on mutliple occasions with other topics and you never seem to reply and basically ignore my response
Cool...I've read all of your stuff now. So webmasters want filtered blogs?
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Cool...I've read all of your stuff now. So webmasters want filtered blogs?
not quite sure what you mean by filtered blogs?
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What webmasters want when it comes to RSS feeds:

We want full customization...so, when we enter into your affiliate area we see a bunch of drop down form options

-choice of hosted gallery feed OR paysite updates feed
-small, medium and large sizes for images...and a choice of using myultiple images or just one image
-short, medium and large descriptions/posts
-short, medium and long titles

all of this would be options we can choose, and when we choose what we want we hit submit and it gives us a url of that feed that we created.

so many sponsors just put up a feed of their latest hosted galleries, and while this is cool and all for feeder crap for my blogs, I never take it seriously, because it is always just a small thumb and a one line description.

I LOVE paysite updates feeds...when the sponsor took the big paragraph they used to update with and create a rss entry for it with 1-4 images that link to either the paysite or larger images.

and don't stop there...give us video update rss feeds to...I don't thiink there are any sponsor offering videos in their rss feeds yet
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There have been plenty of detailed RSS posts made by Stickyfingerz & Splum about what would be most desireable to them, perhaps they can bump there old threads for you.


http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showthread.php?t=620217

Attention all sponsors offering rss blog feeds
A. If you do not offer an image, most will not use you.
B. If you do not offer an image of decent size, most will not use you.
C. If you do not offer decent descriptions in each post, most will not use you.

So what do us rss feed users look for? What makes us rss feed users pick one sponsor over another?

A. Large nice images.
B. Good descriptions using proper seo practices such as using Bolding for phrases you want to get searches on.
C. Regular updates, daily or at least twice weekly.


Now Im not bitching, and I really appreciate when sponsors go out of their way to offer more options to affiliates, and to make it easier for us to advertise for you, but there is nothing more annoying then signing up for a program due to them having rss feeds and to find a 80x80 image that is used for their feeds.

Most blog webmasters use 400x400 or even larger images in their own posts they make. So to put up a feed with a 80x80 image makes it purty obvious that, that post is not their own. So this post isnt so much a bitch, as it is an inside look into what I, and most other blog users Ive talked to, prefer when looking for new sponsors.

If you want more sign ups from webmasters using rss feeds try and implement those few tips. Thanks again for all you do for your affiliates.
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What webmasters want when it comes to RSS feeds:

We want full customization...so, when we enter into your affiliate area we see a bunch of drop down form options

-choice of hosted gallery feed OR paysite updates feed
-small, medium and large sizes for images...and a choice of using myultiple images or just one image
-short, medium and large descriptions/posts
-short, medium and long titles

all of this would be options we can choose, and when we choose what we want we hit submit and it gives us a url of that feed that we created.

so many sponsors just put up a feed of their latest hosted galleries, and while this is cool and all for feeder crap for my blogs, I never take it seriously, because it is always just a small thumb and a one line description.

I LOVE paysite updates feeds...when the sponsor took the big paragraph they used to update with and create a rss entry for it with 1-4 images that link to either the paysite or larger images.

and don't stop there...give us video update rss feeds to...I don't thiink there are any sponsor offering videos in their rss feeds yet
Nice post. *taking notes*
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Ditto to everything Jace said. If you had that, I would be signing up right now.
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Ditto to everything Jace said. If you had that, I would be signing up right now.
Look for it in the next 2 weeks. We are also in negociations to get free blog software licences to our (active) affiliates.
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I love my feeds that I update daily...Brings in some quality traffic..
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