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Old 07-05-2006, 02:54 AM   #1
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I Demand An Increase To The Webmaster Minimum Wage!

I feel that every PER SIGNUP sponsor should increase their payouts by $5 ACROSS THE BOARD....

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Old 07-05-2006, 02:55 AM   #2
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it would be about time!
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Old 07-05-2006, 02:55 AM   #3
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Old 07-05-2006, 02:58 AM   #4
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I think affiliates money should be halved per sign up and the money saved spent on increasing the members area and members satisfaction level.

This could bring ratios down to a much better level and actually increase the amount affiliates earn.

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Old 07-05-2006, 03:34 AM   #5
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I thin PPS sponsors should increase my payouts by $5.

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Old 07-05-2006, 03:45 AM   #6
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I think affiliates money should be halved per sign up and the money saved spent on increasing the members area and members satisfaction level.

This could bring ratios down to a much better level and actually increase the amount affiliates earn.

Discuss.
Members will cancel no matter how much you spend on content. Surfers like to cancel memberships almost as much as they like to masterbate.
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Old 07-05-2006, 03:52 AM   #7
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why so they increase the shave ratio even more?
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Old 07-05-2006, 04:02 AM   #8
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I feel that every PER SIGNUP sponsor should increase their payouts by $5 ACROSS THE BOARD....

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Summer is most likely not the best time to discuss increases, but what the heck. To compensate for the extra $5, about every sponser would move to installing malware, precheck cross sales, trojans, selling of user and affiliate information or any other borderline or unethical practice for the difference.

The money would have to come from somewhere

** we're not pps, so we're exempt from the requirments of the thread
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Old 07-05-2006, 04:03 AM   #9
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Old 07-05-2006, 04:48 AM   #10
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I think affiliates money should be halved per sign up and the money saved spent on increasing the members area and members satisfaction level.

This could bring ratios down to a much better level and actually increase the amount affiliates earn.

Discuss.


ah comrad, got yourself a solution there. Just make sure the breadlines at the webmaster shows are long enough to feed the poor.

You would be setting sail on a downward spiral, of less webmasters, less revenue, fewer content updates = less webmasters, less revenue, even few content updates = site closing or begging for webmaster aid from superpower programs.


Didn't you guys pay attention in the 80s? Google the trickle down theory, raising payouts to webmasters will increase revenue in the long term, lowering payouts to affiliates will decrease revenue.
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Old 07-05-2006, 04:49 AM   #11
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Old 07-05-2006, 05:37 AM   #12
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Just raise my payouts and ill be happy, im only small time
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Old 07-05-2006, 05:43 AM   #13
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actually i think that everyone should donate $5 from every one of their signups to me, thanks.
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Old 07-05-2006, 05:46 AM   #14
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I agree. Or even $10!

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Old 07-05-2006, 05:55 AM   #15
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try revshare - pays more than pps
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Old 07-05-2006, 06:07 AM   #16
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revshare is a great thing.. ^^
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Old 07-05-2006, 06:13 AM   #17
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They can also increase shaving of 25 % with that if you want.
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Old 07-05-2006, 06:17 AM   #18
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I would like higher payouts but I am happy with what I am getting. I remember when they used to be about 1/2 of what we are getting now per signup. The good ole Click Thru Calvin per click programs. lol.
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Old 07-05-2006, 06:24 AM   #19
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This is correct because you make money even when you take a day off.
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Old 07-05-2006, 07:16 AM   #20
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This is a very competitive market and sponsors know by increasing their PPS payouts they can increase the number of joins quite drastically. Keep in mind they also have to remain profitable and competitive. it's not just a matter of increasing it for the hell of it, it has to be possible for their profitability as well. But so long as you have profitable traffic, its not hard to negotiate payout increases.
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Old 07-06-2006, 06:27 AM   #21
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Members will cancel no matter how much you spend on content. Surfers like to cancel memberships almost as much as they like to masterbate.
I think you and FunForOne are missing the point.

Yes when they leave one site they should go join another site because we have given them such a great experience they are keen as mustard to get back and buy more.

However the truth is many do not come back to buy because we have disappointed them, that's a mild word and it can go up to RIPPED THEM OFF. Many do it to pay the affiliates as much as possible to get them to send traffic. Which they need in increasing amounts because the surfer is getting more reluctant to spend money.

So we have cause and effect. Sites disappointing members so they can pay affiliates more while making the affiliates job harder by making more mambers want to spend money.

What I'm saying is we break out of the cycle, we stop thinking of members as guys to be short changed and start making them want to buy from us more often.

With ratios of around 1-1000 on an industry average we have a lot of surfers to convert.

What ever goes into the affiliates pocket has to come out of the surfers, increasing the payouts to affiliates can be done three ways. One cut down on what you give to the member, two squeeze more money from him, three get ratios down by making more surfers happy to buy.

Which method do you think would benefit us all in the long run?
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