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Old 08-03-2006, 09:17 AM   #51
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Can we remember that the guy that started the thread wants an answer to his question. He is not accusing, he is asking for an explanation. I like that he has people that jump to defend him, that says a lot. But, don't you believe Choker will be able to answer this issue, and clear it up when he finally reads this thread?

If someone is using a hitbot to rip Choker off, I think he would want to know. It could cost him more than 8 bucks.

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Old 08-03-2006, 09:17 AM   #52
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It's obvious you don't know a fucking thing about Choker or what kind of person he is,

and you're calling orl360 an idiot??

I sincerely hope it's "goodbye forever", this board could do with less goofballs like you.
Exactly...Thats one problem with the adult industry unlike other industries...You work so hard to build a name for yourself and build up respect...Then little stupid fucks like this come along and degrade what you have worked for...However...In the end your still on top because you do your shit right.

Yes...I don't have a e-penis in here...However...I am far from new to this industry and its games and lies.
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Old 08-03-2006, 09:19 AM   #54
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Can we remember that the guy that started the thread wants an answer to his question. He is not accusing, he is asking for an explanation. I like that he has people that jump to defend him, that says a lot. But, don't you believe Choker will be able to answer this issue, and clear it up when he finally reads this thread?
Of course...Choker will be able to investigate and see what the issue is...The fact remains...The guy should have originally went to Choker instead of the board if he saw problems...If in fact it was cheated traffic due to someone cheating Choker...he would have fixed the problem...In fact he would have probably went around and found where all the fake traffic went and gave credits to those affected...That is how choker works...
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Old 08-03-2006, 09:21 AM   #55
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Of course...Choker will be able to investigate and see what the issue is...The fact remains...The guy should have originally went to Choker instead of the board if he saw problems...If in fact it was cheated traffic due to someone cheating Choker...he would have fixed the problem...In fact he would have probably went around and found where all the fake traffic went and gave credits to those affected...That is how choker works...
Do we know that he didn't mention it on the choker site? Sometimes your answer can take 24 hours there. I don't want Choker to lose business due to this thread, but I want him to know that it's happening if it is. Not in 24 hours, but now.
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Old 08-03-2006, 09:24 AM   #56
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He is not accusing, he is asking for an explanation.
What planet do you live on?

If you can't see the accusation in his posts you're blind sir.

Funny how people start threads like this during internext when people like Choker are temporarily unavailable to defend themselves. It's almost too convenient.

^ there, how's that for innuendo? :D


Fine, let's all stop buying from Choker because one rather unkown poster here says he has 30 similar IP's in his $10 or $15 block of traffic he bought. Yup, good plan. Threads like this are a benefit to the business.
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Old 08-03-2006, 09:29 AM   #57
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It's obvious you don't know a fucking thing about Choker or what kind of person he is,

and you're calling orl360 an idiot??

I sincerely hope it's "goodbye forever", this board could do with less goofballs like you.
CDsmith you do biz your way I will do biz mine and nope dont know what kind of person choker is on the inside etc etc

dont know what kind of person anyone is

I do know I dont blindly trust anyone and if something dosent look right with anyone I want to know!! I didnt say choker did anything whatssoever I just said if something dosent look right it should be outed no matter how you think hes a great stand up guy

I guess your hardon for me comes from the other threads etc but instead of confronting me head you post incoherent garbage in other threads

I think the boards can do without you and your kind

how about this

you are no longer welcome on GFY go away
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Old 08-03-2006, 09:31 AM   #58
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Do we know that he didn't mention it on the choker site? Sometimes your answer can take 24 hours there. I don't want Choker to lose business due to this thread, but I want him to know that it's happening if it is. Not in 24 hours, but now.
Yes if you follow his posts on here (trying to make that not sound sarcastic)...The 2nd or 3rd reply he said he didn't have time
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CDsmith you do biz your way I will do biz mine and nope dont know what kind of person choker is on the inside etc etc

dont know what kind of person anyone is

I do know I dont blindly trust anyone and if something dosent look right with anyone I want to know!! I didnt say choker did anything whatssoever I just said if something dosent look right it should be outed no matter how you think hes a great stand up guy

I guess your hardon for me comes from the other threads etc but instead of confronting me head you post incoherent garbage in other threads

I think the boards can do without you and your kind

how about this

you are no longer welcome on GFY go away
The fact remains...You should go to the person you have a issue with first...Instead of blindsiding them on GFY

Simple...
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Old 08-03-2006, 09:42 AM   #60
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The fact remains...You should go to the person you have a issue with first...Instead of blindsiding them on GFY

Simple...
That's fucking BS!

Doesn't matter if this intentional or if someone is cheating choker. Don't you think everyone should know about it?

The buying public should be informed of the possibility of him(choker) being cheated and in turn them being cheated too, (if that's is truly the case) by purchasing this type of traffic.

I agree with pussylover, Full Disclosure!

What's fucked up is people like you that attempt to sweep shit under the rug.
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Old 08-03-2006, 09:50 AM   #61
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That's fucking BS!

Doesn't matter if this intentional or if someone is cheating choker. Don't you think everyone should know about it?

The buying public should be informed of the possibility of him(choker) being cheated and in turn them being cheated too, (if that's is truly the case) by purchasing this type of traffic.

I agree with pussylover, Full Disclosure!

What's fucked up is people like you that attempt to sweep shit under the rug.
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Old 08-03-2006, 09:52 AM   #62
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That's fucking BS!

Doesn't matter if this intentional or if someone is cheating choker. Don't you think everyone should know about it?

The buying public should be informed of the possibility of him(choker) being cheated and in turn them being cheated too, (if that's is truly the case) by purchasing this type of traffic.

I agree with pussylover, Full Disclosure!

What's fucked up is people like you that attempt to sweep shit under the rug.
It has nothing to do with sweeping shit under the rug...It has to do with if you have a problem with a service...CONTACT THE FUCKEN PERSON YOUR DEALING WITH. Imagine if everytime there was a problem with a service or company in the adult industry...You posted everything on GFY...It would be 4 times as big as it is now...

He said him self

Originally Posted by Vell
I have no intention of buying more traffic from them, and my credit was small enough that I don't really care beyond this post. I have enough on my plate then to worry about choker. This thread is only to post my experiance with the traffic today.


This doesn't seem like someone who is just concerned about the traffic he recieved...

Anyways...Bash away
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Old 08-03-2006, 09:53 AM   #63
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How did it convert? 1:1000, 1:2000 or better? Just curious
Good enough that I buy to this day
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Old 08-03-2006, 09:56 AM   #64
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you are an idiot if you have a qaulity product people will buy regardless of any complaint
LOLOLOL this is one of the funniest things anyone has ever said on this forum!
Its wrong in so many ways that I dont know where to start attacking it from LOL
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Old 08-03-2006, 09:58 AM   #65
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CDsmith you do biz your way I will do biz mine and nope dont know what kind of person choker is on the inside etc etc

dont know what kind of person anyone is

I do know I dont blindly trust anyone and if something dosent look right with anyone I want to know!! I didnt say choker did anything whatssoever I just said if something dosent look right it should be outed no matter how you think hes a great stand up guy

I guess your hardon for me comes from the other threads etc but instead of confronting me head you post incoherent garbage in other threads

I think the boards can do without you and your kind

how about this

you are no longer welcome on GFY go away
This is business, not high school son. In business you don't go public first at the onset of a problem, you talk to the people or person you're doing business with directly.

Now come back to this thread in 5 years (if you're still around that is) and tell me how foolish and idiotic you sounded. Who knows, I might even accept your apology by then. :D
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never had any probles on my end.

buy buy buy.
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Old 08-03-2006, 10:13 AM   #67
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the members of my site that are AOL members always show a huge range of IP's. Just like the list shown, if you are being counted for each one then it is probably just one person or bot as mentioned. I'm sure choker will look into it and fix it as soon as he can. I don't buy from him anymore because there is no such thing as good traffic for our site LOL,
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This is business, not high school son. In business you don't go public first at the onset of a problem, you talk to the people or person you're doing business with directly.

Now come back to this thread in 5 years (if you're still around that is) and tell me how foolish and idiotic you sounded. Who knows, I might even accept your apology by then. :D
and thats your reply huh??

so I guess all the epassporte, this guy is a ripoff etc etc etc threads were wrong too by your standards??

Maybe you do not understand what you are saying

let me explain

if there is an issue with a product or service it is better for the customer to out the issue and discuss it

no matter how much of a stand up guy YOU think someone is the possibility remains that they are not

the constant threat of public outing keep people on the straight and narrow

Iit is sad you are in this biz and you do not understand this...but I am done trying to explain it

but please in the future if anyone ever rips you off or shits on you could you please ICQ me after you e-mail them so I can make a mental note

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and thats your reply huh??

so I guess all the epassporte, this guy is a ripoff etc etc etc threads were wrong too by your standards??

Maybe you do not understand what you are saying

let me explain

if there is an issue with a product or service it is better for the customer to out the issue and discuss it

no matter how much of a stand up guy YOU think someone is the possibility remains that they are not

the constant threat of public outing keep people on the straight and narrow

Iit is sad you are in this biz and you do not understand this...but I am done trying to explain it

but please in the future if anyone ever rips you off or shits on you could you please ICQ me after you e-mail them so I can make a mental note

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You compare this to outing epassporte about physically purposely blocking accounts access?

Outing something that someone has purposely and knowingly done...Okay...

The constant thread of public outing? You are fucken stupid...So I guess every company should have to keep reps on the boards to make sure they are there to respond to the outings on the board? Instead of when someone has a issue or a CONCERN (which is supposely why he posted this) contacting them personally?

You make no sense...

Choker buys and sells traffic...He buys traffic just like you...Perhaps he got cheated...Perhaps its the AOL traffic...

CONTACT HIM NOT GFY
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195.93.21.x is one of AOL's proxy server-parks
It just mean you have a lot or shitty AOL traffic.
Stop buying bulk traffic, its worthless - absolutely worthless
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Bingo.
I've never had a problem with his traffic, but if there currently IS a problem then wouldn't it have been better to just talk directly to him and see if the problem can't be remedied?

...instead of coming on GFY and cocking off like an idiot.

Should trashing someone publicly be the FIRST thing people do in a situation?
Hey fuck you. You don't tell me what to do.
I didn't trash anyone, I came to a forum and asked a question why chokers traffic was the way it is. :
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I'm not that concerned about it as it wasn't much money. Mostly just want you guys to know so the same shit doesn't happen to you.

Problem is that it's next to impossible to judge how well the site's doing if I don't get real traffic to it.


The majority of it is fake from what I can tell. I'd say at least 50%. Some of it isn't as blatent as the above, with only a few ips in the same range. But the sheer volume hitting me in such a short amount of time... Nearly impossible to be real, and their surfing patterns are nearly all identical.

Had the site already been established, I never would have known.
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Funny how people start threads like this during internext when people like Choker are temporarily unavailable to defend themselves. It's almost too convenient.

^ there, how's that for innuendo? :D
Thats strange, I just saw him posting today, wanting 20k from someone.
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See...He doesn't want a resolution...He wants to bash the traffic...
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Yes if you follow his posts on here (trying to make that not sound sarcastic)...The 2nd or 3rd reply he said he didn't have time
I agree, he should have contacted the company. WTF? Posting here too, is okay, but he needs to let the company know what is going on.
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See...He doesn't want a resolution...He wants to bash the traffic...
what is there to resolve?

i bought traffic, it appeared to be shit, i'm not going to buy anymore.

made a post to warn people off.


if choker wants to explain, no one is holding him down.
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I was buying lots of gallery traffic and it converted really very badly But i did not track it any futher, cant say if it was fake or not. I just know i can use better sources. But im sure its good for feeder traffic as i heart.
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A.) Contact Lensman from GFY

B.) Contact Choker

C.) Make a thread on gfy asking everyone else

D.) Call juicy
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i never had a problem with chokers traffic but the best bought traffic that i purchased was from http://traffic-out.com
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feeder traffic, lol, no such thing, if feeder traffic = garbage anyone using feeder traffic = stealing from trade partners
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and thats your reply huh??

so I guess all the epassporte, this guy is a ripoff etc etc etc threads were wrong too by your standards??

Maybe you do not understand what you are saying

let me explain

if there is an issue with a product or service it is better for the customer to out the issue and discuss it

no matter how much of a stand up guy YOU think someone is the possibility remains that they are not

the constant threat of public outing keep people on the straight and narrow

Iit is sad you are in this biz and you do not understand this...but I am done trying to explain it

but please in the future if anyone ever rips you off or shits on you could you please ICQ me after you e-mail them so I can make a mental note

thanks
Dear dipshit:

1. I've known and done business with the person in question here. I have a good guage of the kind of guy he is. You obviously don't, thus are talking straight out of your ass about the issue.

2. Choker is the type of guy that would not only put a stop to any incoming defective traffic he had in his network, but he would make it right with the customers AND would likely announce the problem himself here.

3. (and lastly) Only the purest of assholes run to the boards at the drop of a hat, without so much as trying to contact the person or company they have issues with. This guy's allegations are NOT substantiated fact, they are only his allegations, and this thread stinks with insinuations of wrongdoing on Choker's part.

Next time someone shits on someone unfairly here I'll think of you, and when new opportunities and business dealings come up I'll know to leave obvious idiots like you out of the loop. :D


Hey, the damage is done, why not just stfu and wait for Choker to get here and address it?
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Old 08-03-2006, 02:04 PM   #87
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Dear dipshit:

1. I've known and done business with the person in question here. I have a good guage of the kind of guy he is. You obviously don't, thus are talking straight out of your ass about the issue.

2. Choker is the type of guy that would not only put a stop to any incoming defective traffic he had in his network, but he would make it right with the customers AND would likely announce the problem himself here.

3. (and lastly) Only the purest of assholes run to the boards at the drop of a hat, without so much as trying to contact the person or company they have issues with. This guy's allegations are NOT substantiated fact, they are only his allegations, and this thread stinks with insinuations of wrongdoing on Choker's part.

Next time someone shits on someone unfairly here I'll think of you, and when new opportunities and business dealings come up I'll know to leave obvious idiots like you out of the loop. :D


Hey, the damage is done, why not just stfu and wait for Choker to get here and address it?
No real damage done unless it is a very new webmaster reading. Fuck, all ya have to do is message him and he or staff give you an answer back. Send you an email when answer is ready.

I'd guess 99 out of 100 the using webmaster did something dumb in the first place. So they explain it for the millionth time and you move on a little red in the face.
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Old 08-03-2006, 02:24 PM   #88
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fucking hell i expected drama but got a completely different drama, will u all stfu and wait till choker gets hear. your all acting like a bunch of teenagers rather than business men .

ffs grow up all of you

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Old 08-03-2006, 02:36 PM   #89
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i buy traffic from chocker weekly an im completely satisifed .
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Old 08-03-2006, 02:39 PM   #90
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i've gotten traffic from choker several times and i've always had good experiences. especially gallery traffic.
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Old 08-03-2006, 03:00 PM   #91
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fucking hell i expected drama but got a completely different drama, will u all stfu and wait till choker gets hear. your all acting like a bunch of teenagers rather than business men .

ffs grow up all of you

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The point of the matter is this...This is not chokers support board...Why should choker have to check GFY to see hourly if someone has said anything in reference to him...The guy never even approached choker about the situation...Its one of those blind sided backstabbing bullshit type deals...

With all the adult boards out there...God forbid anyone would have to check every board on the hour...
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Old 08-03-2006, 03:05 PM   #92
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The point of the matter is this...This is not chokers support board...Why should choker have to check GFY to see hourly if someone has said anything in reference to him...The guy never even approached choker about the situation...Its one of those blind sided backstabbing bullshit type deals...

With all the adult boards out there...God forbid anyone would have to check every board on the hour...
maybe choker could try to defend himself under his own nic? lol
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Old 08-03-2006, 03:08 PM   #93
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maybe choker could try to defend himself under his own nic? lol
Why do people always go there? Yes I don't chat on GFY...I just registered...Yes...Obviously since I don't have a high post count...I am obviously a newbie that knows nothing or a fake nick
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Old 08-03-2006, 03:19 PM   #94
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I have spent thousands of dollars using Choker's traffic and have always been pleased.
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Old 08-03-2006, 03:22 PM   #95
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Choker has some good traffic...

Remember that Choker's traffic comes from other webmasters who sold it to him.

What I usually do is choose to buy it directly from a TGP/MGP that has something to do with the niche of the intended page it is going to. I never ever buy the niche traffic or the gallery niche traffic because it sucks ass.

Also, when something like this happens I can ICQ Choker the asswipes sites that sent me this bullshit traffic and Choker will delete their account.
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Old 08-03-2006, 03:24 PM   #96
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Also, when something like this happens I can ICQ Choker the asswipes sites that sent me this bullshit traffic and Choker will delete their account.

You mean to say...That you actually contact him...Not post on the board? Wow thats a interesting concept
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Old 08-03-2006, 03:35 PM   #97
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same here..
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Old 08-03-2006, 03:54 PM   #98
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I have spent thousands of dollars using Choker's traffic and have always been pleased.
How did it convert? 1:1000, 1:2000 or better? Or was it used for another purpose than selling sites? Just curious
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Old 08-03-2006, 04:08 PM   #99
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he is travelling right now i would guess.

most likely has no idea that this is going on.

give the guy time....everyone leaves their computers around internext time
Very True give him some time, not everyone runs on GFY timing
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Old 08-03-2006, 04:19 PM   #100
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The traffic you get from choker comes from sites that sell traffic to choker,,, I am 99% certain that one of the resellers is cheating choker.. the cheater is probably using a hitbot to earn $$ to buyback real traffic,, Check the referring urls for those ips & see if they all come from the same site,,
that is true,
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